Devion said:
You again miss the point completely.
Can I use scripts, ondemand ingame?(No scripts installed)
No. Neither can u adjust ur controls. Change resolution, or anything for that matter. If they locked all these things, not many people would play the mod, since each person has his own taste for controls.
Are scripts part of the game?
In a way they are
Does it gives you (unfair) advantages?
No. If other people made scripts, there would be no advantage.
Does it overcome limits within the game?
No.(But does overcome human possibillities)
Scripts defer only at one point with cheats and that is that hack overcome limits of the game.(Wallhack).
Another point is that the script always give a small disadvantage, which, if the script is good, is barely noticeable.
And yes there was a reload hack(scripts) back in CS1.3 and there was even one for AWP 1.6(Not real reload, but something like fast switching twice, only ALOT faster)
Then it is the teams fault for not fixing it. If it was THAT big a deal for the team, they could've asked other programmers for a solution. If they did not fix the problem, it was because they didn't want to and thought it was fine for people to use that trick.
Also your being unbelievable hypocrite.
People should respect unwritten rules and you script to win?
1 unwritten rule, which usually is still written, is not using exploits. Many people do. Another unwritten rule would be not to lame. People do it anyway. I justify my scripts on this point: If people can play lame and use exploits to their own likings, why should I be a toy for them? Furthermore do not accuse me as being hypocrite.
You are saying: "I dont play to win", but you use scripts only for one purposes, being faster, stronger and basically winning.
I use the script to make the game more enjoyable for myself. 1 of those things of getting enjoyed is winning, but that's not the only 1. I also use the script to shut lamers up and there are more reasons. I don't feel obligated to tell u all of my reasons.
Because scripts arent like thumbs.
Every normal persons has thumbs, not scripts, it makes the battle unnaturally uneven(unlike skill).
What another game "allows" is not the concern of ESF, now is it?
He's making an example. In a way scripts are like thumbs if he so whishes to use that example. I also believe that I have never seen a person that fits the description "normal" in this game. Battles are fought on many different grounds. 1 puts all of his time and effort into finding cheap tricks and perfecting a lame style of play. The other just doesn't want to do that for a reason like he doesn't want to lower himself to the point of a lamer but doesn't want to get laughed at either and puts all of his efforts into coding a script that can beat the cheap tricks and lame style of play. What another game "allows" is the concern of ESF while it is running with the same capabilities of the other game, in this case: scripting.
Ravendust said:
I'm surprised nobodies mentioned the good old 60-arrows script. There's no way any human could get 60 arrows in adv melee naturally, in fact you'd be stretching with 20.
U know I actually tried to write a script in which u can fire that adv melee glitch in a split second. It didn't work. My conclusion is that it was a speedhack in combination with some really artistic writing. I have not been able to go past the boundaries of the time it takes to enter a green arrow, because it was limited by the design of the game. This clearly states that a cheat was involved in creating this hack and not just a script.
Jinks said:
Sephize...thats a lot of anger towards people that consider scripting wrong. When in fact it is wrong and it gives you an unfair advantage. If the Devs coded the swooping the way it was....problems are solved.
I haven't gotten angry yet and u people are not getting my point. I'm simply annoyed by the inability of people like u to accept the fact that whatever comment they can come up with, can be justified in another way. What u want is for everyone to not use scripts and accept that lamers will dominate the servers with cheap tricks while using all standard settings. Therefor ruining the fun of other players who do not want to use cheap tricks and play lame. I cannot live with that and I think the "eye for an eye" line is very suited here. Here I was believing that the game should be enjoyable for everyone, whereas you people want to limit the fun of the game in favour of the jerks in this game.
If the team doesn't fix big flaws, atleast flaws that I find big and unwanted to the extent that it makes the game unenjoyable for me, why shouldn't I try to fix it for myself?
As I see it: there will always be 2 groups. 1 group that believes the following: Every person the same controls, the same keyboard and whatnot, however they can play as lame and as cheap as they want and other people will just have to suck it up and take that arrogance. The other group wants this: Play the game and enjoy it WITHOUT any lame or cheap playing. They don't want arrogant bastards, but want champions or heroes. Someone they can look up to. Someone with a playingstyle that is just and right and be the best at it, like an offensive style. They want to play the game and become just as good as the other.
Unfortunatly that is impossible because theres the 1st group. So some will now suck it up, but NOT everybody.