Jinks said:
My point is this:
You take all variables out of the equation:
1. skill
2. player class
3. hardware
4. anything I missed e.g. interenet connection
The ONLY variable you have is that 1 is using script the other is not. They will then both have the same lag and the same keyboard. The response times w/out a script are slower....thats a big advantage.
Theres also playingstyle, which u cannot take out. The way I see it, if both had the same skill, they would either both be using scripts or none at all. If 1 was using scripts and the other wasn't, then that means that they weren't of the same skill seeing as 1 honed his "skills" with a script and the other with the original controls.
Suppose Sarutobi isn't scripting, I don't know if he is, I think so, but I'm not sure and I'm not going into that discussion, he proved that it is possible to beat every player, with or without scripts by using a style which I personally hate.
I can beat Omni, but I cant beat Sarutobi, yet I'm pretty equal to Omni with my scripts, why is it that I cant beat Sarutobi? Simply because it also takes aim and laming nowadays.
There is always a difference in performance when it comes to someone using a script and one who isn't using a script. Basicly, a scripter might be able to swoop faster, but lacks the ability to predict where the other player will have a jam or 2 THAT IS if he used the script when he started playing ESF the first day. I for 1 feed off of the mistakes of the other player, just like I still have jams WITH the script, however since I played without scripts for a long time, I generally know when a player will have a jam and he won't know when I get them. It's not that I have more skill, I just have more knowledge of the game then the other.
Davidskiwan said:
did i ever whine? infact ive never fought a scripter, all i know is they have an advantage at the game because they possess a file in their scripts folder that i dont, imo that means they're cheating, thats not whining, its telling you what it is. One person having an advantage over another shouldnt be credited any more than the roll exploit. This is like saying "I cheat but i deserve to win" kinda thing, which i dont think your understanding. I dont have a problem with losing, i lose all the damn time just ask ape gohan or anyone good ive fought recently, however i think people who have to write a code because they loose, have a problem with losing.
Are u saying ur not whining about the scripts now? If u don't want the other to have an advantage: make a script, otherwise I see no reason to ur whining about it. And tbh it's getting boring. 1 person will have the advantage of a more steady aim, the other will have the advantage that he/she knows a lot more about coding then the other and has extensive knowledge on how to use a searchengine and find FAQs and guides to scripting. Why is it so hard to code? basicly all the key mapping u did in options is the same damn thing, except it has a nice little grafical interface to it. Are u saying that u never changed ur controls?
Imo a script is NOT a cheat. In fact u cant even compare them to cheats. Also a script is not placed in some scripts folder...
If u want to play against a scripter, I'm sure Carnage will be happy to duel u sometimes, otherwise I will. That is if Vossey ever comes back.
In my case, it's not WHEN I lose, its HOW I lose, but I gave up screaming and yelling at people that use a lame style and saying that they're lame or script or cheat, because they weren't going to stop anyway. Instead I will use my knowledge of coding/configing/tweaking to get that grin off their faces.