Beta 1.3 Outline Discussion Thread

[wheres_]

I doubt they'll go into that much effort if they arn't going to fix the trunks thing.

 

[Skiwan]

or maybe you could just use your custom model if you want it that bad D:

 

[|Overlord|]

I R demand ussj be added to vegeta ;0. SUPER VEGETA FTW!!!
Maybe as a placeholder trans till he can reach ssj2, or a form in between ssj1 & 2.

 

[Vegeta]

Maybe he'll have two skins? If playing on the Good Team he'll just be regular SSJ2, if on the Evil team he'll be Majin SSJ2 (with veins and the M).

Well, by this you mean he'll hop from Android Saga Armor(SSJ), to Buu Saga suit(SSJ2 or Majin)?

Well anyway, that's the best idea I've heard so far regarding Vegeta, his skins & his transformations. Thanks for telling me now...

 

[Ravendust]

Well, by this you mean he'll hop from Android Saga Armor(SSJ), to Buu Saga suit(SSJ2 or Majin)?

No it has nothing to do with a costume change. I hope he stays in his Armour for SSJ2.

 

[Esf_Newbie]

No it has nothing to do with a costume change. I hope he stays in his Armour for SSJ2.

Me too, I've always like the armored vegeta over jump suit vegeta.

 

[Ravendust]

Although I do prefer the armour, I was more referring to the fact that costume changes on transformations look a little bizzarre (like Krillin at the moment). I'd prefer if he didn't change clothes when ascending/descending.

 

[uncover bunker]

every other member of GF may be weaker, but ginyu+other GF member > ginyu alone, that's how it work. Android18 has buddy transformation - Android17, again Android18 < Android18 + Android17

so u mean if ginyu transform than he will gain a partner during in combat that which means if u play ginyu than u can control the NPC when u transform and if u turn to the next stage u will earn ur new partner and control it, isnt it?? becuz that is real buddy transform, than buddy transform shouldn't increase in speed and strangh, becuz that's the differeense person or muti-person. that than which kind were u talking about??
is the normal transformation?? or just team up??

 

[uncover bunker]

Well, by this you mean he'll hop from Android Saga Armor(SSJ), to Buu Saga suit(SSJ2 or Majin)?

Well anyway, that's the best idea I've heard so far regarding Vegeta, his skins & his transformations. Thanks for telling me now...

well. majin vegeta should be belong to special attack, becuz that wasnt a real transformation, it just a turbo or something (like kaioken or rage mode..)
divide between evil and good?? hell no, becuz that just return that freaky alpha vertion......

 

[uncover bunker]

there's the temperary of the real 1.3 outline (i supposed )

speed

buu: fat= 220, evil= 300, super= 320, super2=340, super3= 350, kid= 360
goku: normal= 160, ssj=250, ssj2=280, ssj3=320
gohan: normal= 180, ssj= 250, ssj2= 300, mystic= 340
krillin: normal= 150, mystic= 250, old= 300
freiza: form1= 180, form2= 270, form3= 300, form4= 320
piccolo: form1= 160, form2= 220, form3= 250, form4= 270
trunks: normal= 140, ssj= 220, ussj= 250, ussj2= 255, ssj2= 270
vegeta: normal= 216, ssj= 260, ussj= 275, ssj2= 290
cell: normal= 220, imperfect= 260, perfect= 310
ginyu: 140
android 18: 180

life-point

buu: fat= 160, evil= 180, super= 200, super2= 210, super3= 220, kid= 240
goku: normal= 110, ssj= 130, ssj2= 150, ssj3= 200
gohan: normal= 100, ssj= 110, ssj2= 130, mystic= 160
krillin: normal= 90, mystic= 150, old= 180
frieza: form1= 150, form2= 170, form3= 200, form4= 230
piccolo: form1= 100, form2= 130, form3= 160, form4= 200
trunks: normal= 90, ssj= 120, ussj= 140, ussj2= 160, ssj2= 180
vegeta: normal= 110, ssj= 120, ussj= 170, ssj2= 210
cell: normal= 120, imperfect= 140, perfect= 160
ginyu: 80
android 18: 110

strangh

buu: base= 1,250,000
goku: base= 700,000
gohan: base= 500,000
krillin: base= 500,000
frieza: base= 800,000
piccolo: base= 600,000
trunks: base= 450,000
vegeta: base= 700,000
cell: base= 900,000
ginyu: base= 400,000
android: base= 800,000

transformation

buu: evil= 1.5x, super=1.5x, super2= 1.5x, super3=1.5x, kid= 2x
goku: ssj= 2, ssj2= 2.5, ssj3= 3
gohan: ssj= 2, ssj2= 3, mystic= 2.5
krillin: mystic= 2, old= 3.5
frieza: form2= 1.5, form3= 1.8, form4= 2
piccolo: form2= 1.5, form3= 2, form4= 2.33
trunks: ssj= 2, ussj= 1.5, ussj2= 1.5, ssj2= 3.5
vegeta: ssj= 2, ussj= 2.5, ssj2= 3
cell: imperfect= 1.5, perfect= 2.5
ginyu: n/a
android: n/a

transform pl

buu: evil= 3,000,000, super= 6,500,000, super2= 12,000,000, super3= 18,000,000, kid= 26,000,000
goku: ssj= 1,750,000~5,000,000, ssj2= 6,500,000~14,000,000, ssj3= 15,000,000~30,000,000
gohan: ssj=1,000,000~3,200,000, ssj2= 4,800,000~11,000,000, mystic= 13,000,000~20,000,000
krillin: mystic= 3,000,000, old= 8,000,000
frieza: form2= 2,500,000, form3= 5,250,000, form4= 13,000,000
piccolo: form2= 1,600,000~2,800,000, form3= 4,750,000~8,000,000, form4= 10,000,000~14,000,000
trunks: ssj= 1,000,000~2,000,000, ussj= 2,800,000~5,300,000, ussj2= ? ssj2= 8,500,000~15,000,000
vegeta: ssj= 2,000,000~5,000,000, ussj= 5,300,000~6,800,000 ssj2= 8,500,000~15,000,000
cell: imprefect= 1,900,000, perfect= 5,500,000
ginyu: n/a
android 18: n/a

 

[Andreyesf]

yeah and dont forget about atomic BLAST in majin vegeta form

 

[Phobius]

uncover bunker please use the edit button instead of triple posting please.

 

[uncover bunker]

yeah and dont forget about atomic BLAST in majin vegeta form

ultimate sacrifice??

uncover bunker please use the edit button instead of triple posting please.

sry...i couldn't help it, it just way too longer....i need to divide the quote

 

[Andreyesf]

I said Atomic Blast not ultimate sacriface

 

[donnierisk]

what's atomic blast?

 

[Ravendust]

The move Majin Vegeta used on Buu before blowing himself up, it was a fast-moving blast that tore a hole right through him.

 

[Vegeta]

The move Majin Vegeta used on Buu before blowing himself up, it was a fast-moving blast that tore a hole right through him.

I also thought I'd mention it appeared as somewhat of a rendition of Vegeta's Big Bang Attack, but much faster and more powerful. And I guess... yellow.


Oh also, the Atomic Blast is executed differently than the Big Bang Attack, but not greatly. (Big Bang:

)

Do a search on Google for "Atomic Blast", as you can see there are many photos of actual atomic blasts. They resemble the post-effect of Vegeta's Big Bang Attack, right? Atomic Blast is similar, but in the show, you never see it actually hit ground--it goes through Buu but then vanishes. It may have exploded inside of Buu, or it was an error.

I'm using this image for a lack of a better one(couldn't find any workable links to some of the screen caps taken from the episode where he performed this attack).

 

[Ravendust]

I have one, but the quality sucks: here
You can also see a much clearer manga rendition: here

It definately didn't explode inside him, it went right through him and kept going but it never exploded.

 

[wheres_]

Indeed, it was pretty much an early SBC without the ultra funky trail.

\o majn vegeta.

 

[SSJ Skat]

One last thing majin vegeta needs is FINAL FLASH!!!! BOOOM KILLS EVERYONE WITHIN 200 M around him
I mean the suicide move not final flash