Arn't any pros still playing esf??

[Shuyin]

That's why we had the Earth League..
Now whenever the hell that comes back, people will be able to fight for the top ranks and see who the top players are via the scoretable etc.

 

[sub]

Why aren't pros playing? Because you can't be a pro in 1.2... It's either your good or your bad, there is no pro anymore. Once you reach a certian point, your not going to get any better.

Plenty of good players are still playing. As a matter o fact, the only good players from 1.1 are still playing. The rest of'em just can't keep up with the ability to maneuver and dodge easier without the ability to telespam some cheap melee strike. It actually takes skill now to do a good melee fight, even advanced melee can get tricky at times.

It's funny, because I even told you, Draylock, that in the new version you wouldn't be nearly as good because all you did was telespam when you were losing. Funny how being a jerk can come back at you in a public forum. Oh sweet vengeance.

Getting back to the point, 1.2 is exactly the same as 1.1 except the combat actually takes strategy instead of... OMG I MOVED MY MOUSE UP AND DOWN FASTER THAN YOU! Instead of pointlessly aiming up and down, you have keys you can tap to do that. Not only that, but it's harder to run away now unless you use kiblast because you can't just super tele to the other side of the map and recharge before they know what's happening. I have to admit the double hit thing is kind of dumb, maybe just because of the stupid animation for it, but otherwise, the ability to leap off of walls or completely block melee strikes by having enough ki makes both offense and defense very important.

Unlike previous amazing feats of "I hold the guard button and the hitbox is so big I don't even have to try to block" matched with the conditioned counter attack, you actually HAVE to aim and follow the target. What it all comes down to is a fight that isn't nearly as predictable as it once was. Many good players from 1.1 that aren't willing to start from the bottom of the barrel just end up getting overly frustrated with this engine that can completely recreate a player's skill into something far greater that 1.1 could ever accomplish. What you have here is the ability to THINK rather than simply REACT.

um... Not to sound like an ass or anything, but did you just make all of that up? Almost none of it is true.

 

[Skiwan]

"Why aren't pros playing? Because you can't be a pro in 1.2... It's either your good or your bad, there is no pro anymore. Once you reach a certian point, your not going to get any better." - Hybrid

hmmmmm i disagree i can still tell im improving and i seem to beat most people in 1.2.1, infact i can join a server sumtimes with sum1 transformed buu (winning) and kill them easier than any of the other players on my first frag, even the ones trailing behind by a few frags, its a lot more possible to develop ur fighting style in 1.2 than 1.1, there is huge variation in the things u can do, and u learn tricks for certain ocassions the more you play, i dunno, i see people with style in 1.2, its like in halo, you can tell who's who by their weapon choice or wen the places they throw grenades, the movements they make etc,(believe me i play a hell of a lot of halo with my mates) Its like each player specialises in wat they are good at, sometimes u can expose their fighting style, (which is a skillful thing to do) or u can just outclass them with your own style (which is what most people do), considering my weakness seems to be simple melee, wen i fight a good player they soon notice and exploit it, thats a pro.

 

[Ness]

therare pros playing out there, its just that YOU have to find them or challenge them. Theres loads of people such as Prozac :laff: and DJ-Ready that dont play that much, and when they do, they'll give a helluva a challenge :O. Some, like Prozac, or grOOvy, have to be challenged, so its true you wont find many people that are as good as you (unless your very new to the game) in a server your in. Your best bet is to look around in servers such as Vossey; people like Lothor and Krower and Nihonjin crop up quite frequently, and they will give a challenge. For americans, i dont really know, but i know that Kami_Sama will give a nice challenge as do some of the people in the ~{ape}~ clan server

 

[Phatslugga]

Why aren't pros playing? Because you can't be a pro in 1.2... It's either your good or your bad, there is no pro anymore. Once you reach a certian point, your not going to get any better.



um... Not to sound like an ass or anything, but did you just make all of that up? Almost none of it is true.

I disagree as well, I get better all the time. in 1.1 there was a point where I couldn't get better, becuase I simply could swing the mouse around like other people did. I couldn't react quicker than some of the people out there and becuase of that reason alone, I could never beat them. In 1.2 its not all about reactions and quick movement. It now has to do with strategy, and allows me to beat those people I never could before.

 

[Kami Sama]

I'm still playing

Why aren't pros playing? Because you can't be a pro in 1.2... It's either your good or your bad, there is no pro anymore. Once you reach a certian point, your not going to get any better.

I have to disagree as well, at every new version people suck at the beginning and say that the game became noobish then six month later, you see the difference when people begin to figure out the game.
And Phat, There was strategy in 1.1 too o.o

 

[thenamekman]

LOl im a pro but i been into wc3 frozen thrown i still play esf and still own noobs.

 

[Barney's Soul]

tis good your all still playing

gues il find you somtime if im lucky(or unlucky)

 

[Phatslugga]

I'm still playing



I have to disagree as well, at every new version people suck at the beginning and say that the game became noobish then six month later, you see the difference when people begin to figure out the game.
And Phat, There was strategy in 1.1 too o.o

I don't mean to come across as if there was no strategy at all in 1.1. If I am coming across like that, then I apologize, I only mean that 1.2 has more strategy than 1.1. I was a big fan of 1.1, but the melee system in my opinion was too empty, there wasn't enough to it.

 

[Atlantis]

"theres no pro anymore.."

I highly disagree with that, I consider my self "A pro" I don't play esf anymore. I stopped because there are too many noobs I didn't have fun anymore. A whole crap load of "pros" as you call them still play, check out the RF^ Server or occasionaly the EOP server when it's working. You'll get owned.

 

[sub]

In im rf... Anyway, when I said there are no pros anymore, I meant there isn't anyone who is significantly better then me anymore... Someone who can kill me without me hitting them. In 1.1, if I wanted to find someone who could kick my ass without me having a chance, I could do so easily. Now I can't, thats all.

 

[Amitron]

It seems with the version change that you lose the certain kind of "pros" that they're used to be in 1.1. The melee combat has completey changed so now everyone has to adapt to it,and the "pros" back in the previous version were generally "pros" because they were so good at 1.1 melee. Give it a while, some people will become good.

 

[Mr. Satans]

I consider myself pretty pro but a lower-level pro. I can pretty much take anyone who comes to my server unless it is someone like Robo_Killa, he usually gets meh >_<.

I like to do everyone VS me on my server, unless there are other "pros" in with me, then no

 

[ShIsHi0]

Plenty of good players are still playing. As a matter o fact, the only good players from 1.1 are still playing.

Dude your mistaken the "only good players from 1.1 play 1.2" nah man thats false..Besides 1.1 had quite a few good people , and a crapload ofem don't play anymore....

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

if no one notices most of the people that play 1.2 are the people who were playing 1.1, and the "people" who everyone says quit during the release of 1.2. Well they quit before 1.2 was even released. Like January.

 

[Draylock1]

Its impossible to be a pro at a game when the game doesnt let you be significantly better than any other player. 1.2 any player has a chance to hit you now.

I'm pro

 

[Reptile]

partially true, you can still hit people from the side/behind.
but most of the battle´s you cant fight without getting hurt in some manner.

i can easily get 3/4 combo´s in a fight, so i´m dealing more damage then the other person.

 

[Skiwan]

i take on people all the time and dont let them land any damage on me.... wat are people talkin about? the only way people cud be so "pro" in 1.1 is cuz they'd land one sweet ass melee combo on u, u cud survive and get up (with no ki) but before u get time to recover they'd have got in a position where they had any way possible to kick ur ass, ki blast, or melee. I dunno, im a pretty good player at 1.2 (not pro, lil bit better than mediocre) but sum people can kick my ass without me scratchin them. before the 1.2.1 patch i'd been in servers where the top guy had way over a 100 frags and no deaths, so the pro's still exist, just not as often ><

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Funny how it's so easy for everyone to hit you now as opposed to 1.1, and yet I can go for ten to twenty minutes in a public server easily without getting hit with a single melee attack, same as I could in 1.0 or 1.1 . Everybody was slowed down, not just you, and just because it's slower doesn't mean you can't be significantly better than other players. Now you just have to use teleport and chain swooping more often than swooping circles around your opponent with your sensitivity set to 50.

 

[ZTiMaStA]

Probably becuase they aren't "skilled" anymore.

You're noone to consider anyone 'good'. Any idea why? Because you never were goodor a pro or anything even near that. In fact, I remember you hanging out with what, that UPC figure? Uh wow yeah, guess what, he wasn't good, either. Now, just because Lynx probably abused you when you were young and you had a horrible childhood, there's no need for badmouthing. We don't want history to repeat, do we? Do you know what's also funny? That all of a sudden, all the newbies from 1.1 rise in the version of 1.2 to claim their leetness. Speed was taken out. Fast-paced action was taken out. I'm not all too surprised that they call 1.1 an "easy" version with everyone having a "50 sensitivity". What you just said pretty much proved that your aiming sucked awfully in 1.1. There's nothing wrong with that. But, instead of saying you're good in 1.2 and only the 1.1 newbies stopped, just say you had a terrible time controlling the 1.1 movement and speed and we're all fine what it means, and just think about what you just posted. David, Uh, yeah, that's right, 1.1 was full of combos and such. You probably never played anyone 'good' in 1.1. You'd kill someone instantly with a chain combo, based on speed, accuracy and very exact timing. Let's see you find that in 1.2, eh? Also, before in 1.1, you had alot of demos on the forums of which people considered good fights. Seen any of them since 1.2 came out? I sure haven't. Any idea why? Uh yeah, because it's impossible. People would die laughing seeing 1.2 demos of 'good players', probably because it's slow as hell and not even hard to follow.

before the 1.2.1 patch i'd been in servers where the top guy had way over a 100 frags and no deaths, so the pro's still exist, just not as often ><

Are you familiar with the term 'beamwhoring'? Probably not. Ask your so-called friends what it means, and just think about what you just posted.