That was the point, between Ren and myself, yes. You however stated with obvious knowledge that it is fact that chi does not exist. Thus our debate is something totally different. So stop trying to bend the conversation to your will.And yet here you are, refusing to argue your point and, instead, choosing to engage in an assault on my person rather than addressing the issue at hand, that, of course, being whether or not ki exists.
You're now trying to argue something totally different.And of course, the answer to that question doesn't matter in the context of tje fight for which this thread was created as, per your words, in order to ascertain the true victor of such a battle, they would need to fight on neutral ground. As we've clearly moved away from the parameters suggested by screwattack, and because ki clearly does not exist in any form or capacity in the DC universe, one would infer ki does not, in fact, exist in this neutral plane on which these two individuals are fighting.
It would have been in my court, had I ever once stated that it was 100% factual that ki, or chi, existed. As far back as this whole topic goes.. I only ever went as far as to say ancient texts have been found that describe acts preformed with said 'magic' (seeing as ki isn't really magic.. because magic itself is defined as 'the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces). Have I used it as possible proof, or something that really should be looked into more? Yes. As absolute 100% scientific proof? No.But since we already know who the victor will be, let's go back to our new argument, that being whether or not a force know as ki or chi truly exists. As you are the one making the claim that such an outlandish force does, the ball is in your court, and it is you who must provide evidence in support of your opinion.
Attempt? No. Point out where the current burden of proof truly lies? Yes.You'll, of course, attempt to evade this portion of the argument by waving your hand,
Nothing has been proven yet.. I still see 0 scientific proof. All we have seen so far, is you try to have it work in both absolutes and statistics.. that doesn't fly and you were called out on it, and now try to shift the view from it.as you are wont to do, and so none of the aforementioned arguments will ever reach any kind of conclusion, because though you are proven, at the very least, incorrect, you choose neither to alter your positions nor admit the possibility of you being wrong.
Whatever helps you sleep.However, though neither chi nor ki exist, The Nix does, and as such, her power flows through me in such a way as to make your arguments glance off the armor that is her love, like snow flakes on a volcano. Open your heart, and you, too, may know truth and her love.
And here we are, still not focusing on the argument. As I said would happen.That was the point, between Ren and myself, yes. You however stated with obvious knowledge that it is fact that chi does not exist. Thus our debate is something totally different. So stop trying to bend the conversation to your will.
Says the person who would rather consciously misinterpret a post to suit his needs than read it as is.
You're now trying to argue something totally different.
I'm returning to the topic at hand. Or have you forgotten your numerous posts on sticking to the topic? Contradictions, indeed.
It would have been in my court, had I ever once stated that it was 100% factual that ki, or chi, existed. As far back as this whole topic goes.. I only ever went as far as to say ancient texts have been found that describe acts preformed with said 'magic' (seeing as ki isn't really magic.. because magic itself is defined as 'the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces). You however stated, and I'll quote you on this "It's a belief, not much more". You used this sentence as if it were again shown, with the scientific proof you love to tote on about.
And yet, here we are, once again, discussing absolutes when I've quite clearly stated to do so is a trap. One does not need to be 100% certain to state the probability either is or isn't such. But this concept escapes you time and again. But I am a patient man. You don't need to state it is 100% factual, or that you believe it to be so. But one can infer you subscribe to the idea of ki by how aggressive you are in defending it. If I am incorrect in inferring you lean more towards the existence of ki than away from it, by all means. Correct me. Until such time, the argument remains you lean towards it and I lean away from it.
Now, if what you'd like me to do is break all of my words and sentences down Barney-style for you, so that it becomes a little less muddled as to whether I'm stating my opinion (Cliff Notes: I am) or whether I'm attempting to speak for the Universe, I suppose I can do so. Or, and this is my preferred course of action, rather than coddle such childishness, I can continue hoping that you'll, instead, determine the meaning of my words not through absolute literal interpretation of my sentences word by word, but by attempting to understand the spirit of my words, instead.
Attempt? No. Point out where the current burden of proof truly lies? Yes.
And yet you haven't, so I'll reiterate that the burden of proof is on you, as you're the one who believes in the existence of a thing that has yet to be proven, or even hinted at in any form of scientific inquiry.
Nothing has been proven yet.. I still see 0 scientific proof. All we have seen so far, is you try to have it work in both absolutes and statistics.. that doesn't fly and you were called out on it, and now try to shift the view from it.
That's interesting, because I, too, see zero scientific proof in support of what you call ki. I've neither used absolutes nor statistics in either proving or disproving the existence of ki, instead focusing on the probability of life existing elsewhere (intelligent or otherwise) vs the notion of a supernatural force that has proven to be completely evasive at this point, but of course you've yet to allow reality to stand in your way so why start now?
Whatever helps you sleep.
The Nix does not sleep, and as her conduit, neither do I.
Saw the announcement popped out an our ago and i am happy.Hey guys, we're VERY happy to announce that the highly requested and anticipated Goku VS. Superman DEATH BATTLE! will be airing tonight right here on ScrewAttack.com for EVERYONE! We GREATLY appreciate your patience and support throughout the delay! We've put more blood, sweat and tears into this episode than ever before and with the final product clearing 30 minutes we really hope you enjoy it. We'll get it up tonight as soon as possible!
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I figured this was going to happen when I did some research.The fight is on.
http://www.screwattack.com/shows/originals/death-battle/death-battle-goku-vs-superman
Watching it right now.
Z power always helps me. So lets give him the reputation.
Because of Bardock's special. And two panels of Freeza's flashback in the manga, where Bardock is apparently in space, confronting Freeza, though that may just be some "flashback background", with Planet Vegeta and all.Also, why is Goku fighting in space if he can't breathe there?
Except it became clear Goku couldn't breathe in space when he had to find a way to get off Namek that one time in band camp.Because of Bardock's special. And two panels of Freeza's flashback in the manga, where Bardock is apparently in space, confronting Freeza, though that may just be some "flashback background", with Planet Vegeta and all.