Beta 1.3 Outline Discussion Thread

[Pain]

ESF is planned to live and die on the Half-Life 1 engine. Therefore, if you can play Half-Life, you can play ESF.

At least that's how I understand it to be.

 

[frsrblch]

ESF has many more sprites and such at once than HL though, so it can take a bit more juice to run it, but its still nothing by todays standards.

 

[KidMan]

Alright Im just going to come out and say it. Turbo charged turbo? What the hell is that? Can you now turbo your turbo so you get more of a turbo? And will some mod update the Outline?

 

[TwisteR]

Alright Im just going to come out and say it. Turbo charged turbo? What the hell is that? Can you now turbo your turbo so you get more of a turbo? And will some mod update the Outline?

All that means is the turbo will be chargable. If you played EEA, its something similiar to that.

 

[KidMan]

All that means is the turbo will be chargable. If you played EEA, its something similiar to that.

So you charge how much you want to go up Im still confused on this thing...

 

[Optimus Prime]

So you charge how much you want to go up Im still confused on this thing...

I have the solution.... wait til 1.3 comes out.

 

[KidMan]

I have the solution.... wait til 1.3 comes out.

That the solution for everything appearently. I mean really, we have no idea whats going to be in this game cause all you guys ever say is wait till 1.3. It would be nice to have some confusion cleared up but then again the solution to that is wait till 1.3.

 

[.Maze]

That means when you have 1.000.000 and with Turbo you have 1.250.000 but whenyou Charge your Turbo you cango out over that Limit, like to 1.750.000.

 

[Sicron]

That the solution for everything appearently. I mean really, we have no idea whats going to be in this game cause all you guys ever say is wait till 1.3. It would be nice to have some confusion cleared up but then again the solution to that is wait till 1.3.

well...pay 5 bucks and you will probably know in the force pit they will have alot more information on these things >.>

 

[VeGeTTo]

well : Quote:
Originally Posted by grOOvy
What characters/transformations will Beta 1.3 have?
+ Goku: (SSJ 1/2/3)
+ Gohan: (SSJ 1/2)
+ Frieza: (Form 1/2/3/4)
+ Buu: (EVil Skinny, Super Buu, Kid buu)
+ Cell: (Imperfect/Perfect)
+ Piccolo: (No cape)
+ Trunks: (ssj, ussj)
+ Vegeta: (ssj 1/2[aka majin])
+ Krillin: (Mystic Krillin [miss ma fro!])
+ Andriod 18: (buddy A17)
+ Ginyu: (buddy guldo/burter/recoom)


if 1.3 shoud have all the transes in the DBZ it shoud be like thiz

GokuSan :Normal,SSj,SSJ2,SSJ3
GOhan:Normal,SSj,SSJ2,mystik,mysticssj
Frieza:Normal,2,3,4,
Buu:Fat,evil,gotenkz jacket buu,gotekz time expired i mean piccolo , kid one
Cell:normal (1st time) ,17 absorbed,18 absorbed (perfect)
Picolo:Normal(coat),Nail Absorbed,........and others that i don't know
Trunkz:Normal,SSj,USSJ,SSj2
VeGeTa:normal,SSj,ussj,majin,pure(aftermajin)
Krillin:erm........changed:clothers,hair
Android ,17,18,16 :"(
Gyniu :don't know


well i think this R the transes but not I decide .. about ssj2 trunkz meny people think that ain't exist BUT HE EXIST!! looks like ssj after he stopps going ussj .., he goes str8 ssj2 (ascended supa' saiyajin)

 

[Sicron]

trunks ssj2 doesnt exist...Its just SSJ, USSJ, USSJ "2" <---- ascended super saiyan...ssj2 is not ascended ssj, if i remember right

and i dont think buu will need that many transforms, and gohan doesnt need that many either...i mean,....its not just the most amount of transforms possible, you have to think about balancing as well

 

[VeGeTTo]

so make the trans multipler littler

 

[clen]

also its alot more work

 

[Khain3]

Ok, i know that ESF creators hate EVM, but i have to ask... will Esf 1.3 characters have the ability to hide their powerlevel? In my opinion, that is one of the coolest thing in that mod...

 

[VeGeTTo]

also its alot more work

it also makes the game allot cooler

 

[|Overlord|]

it also makes the game allot cooler

The game is better when you focus on the main issue of new stuff being implementyed one step at a time (mainly because you are focusing on one thing as much as possible to make it good and balanced)

Not everysingle thing has to be in. Take note of charcters that trans earlier and have the advantage for that period of time , & then when the other players reach the required trans level for there class then they can challenge the opponent (depending on skill , but the stats and decreased ki cost would make way for even grounds of a fight aswell)

 

[Jinks]

I just thought of something. In 1.3 what if the team but swoop back to the left mouse click?? To chain swoop you would just hold the corresponding key and hit left click again. This would take care of the responsiveness of 1.2.

To initiate Advance melee you would just run into someone and it would by default go into the pre-punches....its like that now if you just swoop and hit someone w/out holding and mouse keys. So why not make it happen. As for teleport delay I would say scrap it and see what it does you could always put it back in.

I came up with this from my scripts/sploits thread I got running. It seems people are unhappy with the resoniveness of the 1.2 controls. This will bring back the fast paced action of 1.1 but keep the 1.2 flavor. Adv melee will stay and controls will be even easier for newer people, but it will allow for veterens to show their true skill.

 

[TwisteR]

Ok, i know that ESF creators hate EVM, but i have to ask... will Esf 1.3 characters have the ability to hide their powerlevel? In

Nope

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[Grega]

Ok, i know that ESF creators hate EVM, but i have to ask... will Esf 1.3 characters have the ability to hide their powerlevel?

Actualy that is ussed for serious beamspamming. Since you disapear from the radar you just go hide and start charging a beam. You can think of the rest.



About the transformations:

Gohan dosent have MysticSSJ it dosent exist. GT had this explanation that mystic stopped working but who likes GT anyhow.
Trunks never went SSJ2
Piccolo i agree on Fusion with Nail and fusion with Kami but thats all
the androinds well let me remind you that we have no idea how the buddy system will work so who knows what balance will do to it
Buu should have a max of 5 transformations all with reduced multiplier

(those are my opinions)

 

[clen]

well i had an idea about hiding pl a while ago it be that you hide your pl to make other ppl think your weaker then turn on turbo to bring bak your pl to normal.. anywho i don't see the point of gohan being mystic when you can replace the model so ya i agree with grega on that and the rest as for jinks i wouldn't know if its better because i nvr got to play 1.1