without a heart in the darkness

[Eclipse]

Told ya :X

 

[Almighty_Gir]

explain.

 

[PiXel]

? you see that i´ve modeled it myself, if you want to point out that i ripped the whole thing then you missed, i took the original models as ref, but i used them as refs.

i truely studied myself the style of it.
if ya want i can even tell you want special things are at this style.
I would be ashamed of you if you think that ´ve copied/ripped this model. because you know that i do all my models on my own. I had those freakn ripping times wich were like 1-2 years ago. i wouldnt like to come back to them.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

im not saying you ripped at all. however the meshes are so similar that its obvious you didnt just study "their style". im fully willing to believe you modeled from scratch. im not however, willing to believe you didnt clone a lot of their work.

 

[PiXel]

.... thank you! <_< why did you posted it at all? huh , i always showed you my work always did get tipps from you and on on on ... aint its possible that i would maybe get some parts similar to the original ones?

I truelly dont see the point of your posting, exept you want me to push in the times back of ripping, and if you notice, the mesh isnt the same as the other one, and if you want i will even give you my mesh and you can check if its ripped or not.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

tryforce, im just saying it how i see it. and your right the meshes are different, but only to a degree. there are too many areas which are built the same to be a coincidence. i apologise if you think im trying to sabbotage your reputation, im not. im just doing my job.

 

[ShadyD]

wow TF... the little animation Mad_ax posted.. all the polys match... o.0

 

[PiXel]

look up exactly, only cuz the arm got almost the same mesh cuz i didnt needed any polys more to shape the mesh. Thats what i ment ,thats the reason why i did get angry. but i talked with him about that. all fine.

i had to redo the legs because i didnt saved them.

you can even compare cloud or roxas, i really wanna see how you willl look when you see that its not exactly cloud from the game.
Im really sad about this. people thinking that i cloned almost only the work :-\ it´s ****ty to know that the work you´ve done wont be respected anymore. owell not girs fault.

 

[TeKNiK]

explain.

Explains suck excellerated improvment. It's a whole lot easier to "copy" a style when you have access to all the artwork you're trying to match. It's kinda like homework tryforce, it's not as easy to do it on your own as it is to just grab a friends and Copy theirs word for word.

 

[PiXel]

its stupid to continue this here.
everybody thinking that i´ve copied/cloned/ripped this whole ****. thats sad, .. just no words for it. just close it . thanks.

 

[TeKNiK]

it's kinda obvious, man.

 

[PiXel]

k, explain me how i modeled roxas? i havnt even a view.exe for it! not even the mdls.
i drew my own refs for it like for cloud, thought at riku i used the skinned riku as ref but not the freakn wires.
also you know yourself that its possible to get the same things if you model something similar to the other. i dont see the freakn reason why you say that´i´ve cloned it.

does it mean that everybody who models goku cloned another allready released goku? its the same as would you claim about my models. only because i´m one of .. dunno maybe 50 ppl who models kh characters.

 

[zeldalink]

im sorry to say this but im 1000% behind tryforce its hard nowendays like when you suddenly get good at a style.
tryforce ripped back in the day and so did i but both he and i learned how to model things decently so we nolonger need to rip or clone or whatever.

 

[ShadyD]

Sorry TF, hope you accept my appalogies. It just looked so obvious =/.
If you say you modelled it from scratch, i believe you.

 

[Nuttzy]

im not on either one of your sides, not girs or tryforces, but it is 100% clear to me what is going on

YES he did model them from scratch, (in a manner of speaking)

BUT

to do that he used an illegal program to rip the models from the game and generate reference images straight from the model, this IS what we call cloning and it HAS been enforced in the past with the same penalties as ripping.

though im not going to warn you for it, i will ask you to be more honest in the future,

You know as well as I do that you didnt technically model that riku from the ground up.
If you would have simply said in the initial post what you were doing, I gaurantee you that we probabaly would'nt have cared. (since cloning is a fairly outdated rule)

HOWEVER when the evidence was posted against you, proving beyond any doubts what you had actually done, instead of saying "whoops, ya got me" and acknowledging the truth of the matter, you denied every word of it.

and let me tell you this, i dont like being lied to . ;(



and just for the record, I just started playing back through KH1 yesterday, and I know for a fact you did the same thing with the cloud >_>, the pants are a dead giveaway.

 

[PiXel]

omg yeh i used those as refs but if you like i will even show you the ref i´ve redrawed man.... beh it sucks, i will stop modeling those characters. i thought it would be a good way to improve, i thought i could get better by trying to model them by scratch and later i will have it for my own in my mind, but you make me thinking nasty of it.

i really.... ah dunno.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

i didnt warn you for the same reasons as nuttzy. and for the record, i also have an image of your model lined up against the original...

in any case. all i can say is, if you want to learn by modeling from scratch, it would be better if you come up with your own concepts and do it that way. while these models are very good, id enjoy seeing if you can keep consistant levels of skill and progress through some self conceptualised art.

 

[Kaination]

These models are teh pure pwnage.

Ya, I got KH2. Ya, I'm obsessed. These rock.

Alot of polly count around the face though. You ever going to skin Roxas by any chance :3

 

[VeGeTToH]

OMG STFU U NOOBS URE ALL GELOS ON THE HARD WORK OF TRYFORCE!!! XPECIALLY MAD_AXMAN..WHATS WRONG MAN? GETTING OLD ON MODELLING!? DONT GET AS MUCH RESPECT AS BFORE WHEN THERE WEREN'T SO GREAT MODELLERS AS NOW?

 

[Optimus Prime]

OMG STFU U NOOBS URE ALL GELOS ON THE HARD WORK OF TRYFORCE!!! XPECIALLY MAD_AXMAN..WHATS WRONG MAN? GETTING OLD ON MODELLING!? DONT GET AS MUCH RESPECT AS BFORE WHEN THERE WEREN'T SO GREAT MODELLERS AS NOW?

I'm sure nobody is "gelos", especially AxMan. The mods are just trying to do their jobs, beleive me, it is motivated by that fact alone, not jealousy.

Please keep comments like that to yourself, they don't prove anything.