Why make addons (evm, btl, evossj4) when it won't matter in the end?

[DragonDude]

Anywho, yeah, i'm not too fond of all the add-ons, personally I'd like to see an add on devoted solely to game modes. Hell even then if they're good enough they could just be added to the actual 1.3 installation with the creators approval.

That's the kind of thing I imagined when I first heard of people making "ESF add-ons" long ago. These "mod mods" you see are more of just "content packs." They take your ESF install, replace much of the content, and use scripting to modify gameplay. That's not "adding on," that's replacing.

I'd love to see a true add-on; the kind of thing Kama just described.


Anyway, the whole question this thread asks is a little bit... weird. Why get up in the morning? You just do.

 

[Barney's Soul]

You really need to research your facts before you make statements like that. =P


Anywho, yeah, i'm not too fond of all the add-ons, personally I'd like to see an add on devoted solely to game modes. Hell even then if they're good enough they could just be added to the actual 1.3 installation with the creators approval.

But that's just a dream I guess...

I have heard this fact from the esf team, they don't say it directly, but that is the impression i get*shrug*

oh ya kama dont expect anyone to bother with that, besides the btl guys. After seeing 4 thread in one day saying "OMFGERZ I WANT SS4 IN MY EsF NOW MAkE IT FOOLZ" do you really expect this commutity to achully do something usefel for this game -_-'

 

[Pain]

I have heard this fact from the esf team, they don't say it directly, but that is the impression i get*shrug*

The impression you got was wrong. We haven't set a release date or a percentage completed. Any guesses you may have as to how far along we've come are just that. Guesses.

 

[Chakra-X]

I actually prefer addons that provide new attacks/moves than game modes, just to expand on what you can do. But, a capture te flag mode or king of the hill would probably work somehow into ESF.

 

[Clay]

WEll my answer is 1.3 may be good but its still not going to have anything compared to the awsomeness that Evossj4 or Btl will have i mean 1.3 from what i have read will have no fusion or ssj4 only 2 new classes and woo hoo a buddy system which i might as well say evo and btl will have i meen if 1.3 woudl add many more features then the addons would prbaly never had come to be even if 1.2 would have had more features no offence to the team at all but i quit playing esf 1.2.3 on day 3 and went back to Counter strike

 

[sub]

I was talking about that with someone else a couple of days ago. Instead of addons like EVM, I'd like an addon that focuses on improving gameplay like changing melee around for the better. Nothing would beat a melee addon for ESF, nothing . Adding fun and balanced gamemodes plus some nice maps couldn't hurt either. To be honest, I'd think a lot more people would enjoy an addon like that if it was done correctly. The creators could possibly even get some of the "pros" to beta test it to ensure it doesn't unbalance the game. But I guess like Kama, I'm just dreaming

Ah well, maybe BTL will do some of this. From the sounds of it, they have a couple of really great ideas like the duel mode and seperate steam shortcut mentioned in this thread.

Btw.. why is this in off topic?

 

[Barney's Soul]

The impression you got was wrong. We haven't set a release date or a percentage completed. Any guesses you may have as to how far along we've come are just that. Guesses.

I know it's a guess, i said "assumtion" remember? But the way the team and beta testers talk they sound like they only are at the "half-way" point when it comes to esf 1.3 being complete. Yes it is what I take from their comments and yes it is technocly a guess

 

[Ravendust]

This may be a horrible generalization on my part, but BTL isn't a SSJ4-fanboy addon. Just because we're adding movie and GT content it shouldn't be thought of as a n00b/fanboy addon or EVM clone. When I visit certain other forums for certain other addons (and there are at least 6 of us) I see a load of members with names like 'MysticSSJ4Gogeta68' asking 'when you will be adding the ssj4?' with giant SSJ4 sigs and SSJ4 avatars. You can tell that they seem to be adding straight content and nothing more, at least with BTL we're adding and changing what people want (such as the new game modes) as well as what we (and the community) want too.

Anyway, this wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, just wanted to get it out there.

 

[wheres_]

Personally I'll probably ditch BTL for 1.3. So im _really_wasting my time, but it is really good fun.

 

[Eon]

Why are there still Xbox games being made when the 360 is practically out?

Builds experience, can be seen as fun..or you just get bored

 

[Ravendust]

Personally I'll probably ditch BTL for 1.3. So im _really_wasting my time, but it is really good fun.

I'm sure once 1.3 is out Jinto will convert BTL for 1.3 or something.

 

[Kama]

I know it's a guess, i said "assumtion" remember? But the way the team and beta testers talk they sound like they only are at the "half-way" point when it comes to esf 1.3 being complete. Yes it is what I take from their comments and yes it is technocly a guess

K well you've just directly been told by two team members that you're wrong, why do you keep using "the team said so" as a defence when the team is saying opposite? I hate ignorance... learn what a fact is before using the word.

People still make Xbox games because we can't all afford Xbox 360. =p

And i'm ignorant to the fact, but is BTL even moving forward since they lost their modellers? It's good to have little side mods to keep a mod's core alive, but not the same add-on 3 times with new chars.

 

[Ravendust]

Actually we still have two modellers left. It won't grind to a halt, it's just slowing production down. You can't blame one addon for what another addon does, even if it's very similar in presentation to the first.

 

[PiXel]

the only addon wich would be needed would be an addon wich would include more anims of combos and stuf... greater moves and stuf.... not those boring ones... i gues then esf would be saved.... Darktooth is a great animator.. but i gues he dunno what to do to make the game more awefull... so why the hell no ms3d animator join esf and make some more pimpage movments... everything else is great...


addons are pretty stupid and lil cheats... no need.

 

[EncorE_SX]

We at EvoSSJ4 do the addon itself only because we like to play ESF, and want to make it more awsome. We got animators and we're tending to add new transes and stuff, but also new melee system aswell.
When 1.3 is out we will just deactivate all the stuff which are inside and 1.3 has it, and release the 1.3 compatible version.
So who wants to play will play. Who doesn't want to play the addon, will not play it. Easy politic.

 

[Mccdbz5]

We at EvoSSJ4 do the addon itself only because we like to play ESF, and want to make it more awsome.

See, that's the thing though. That's what EVM thought, and looked how it turned out, it made ESF worse. To me, that's what most addons do, they just try and cover up the gameplay with good looking models or something like that. Most of the time, they want to add stuff like Super Saiyan 4 and most of the other transformations, and then they don't balance it out, making it for people who like one character who isn't as good as someone else, hardly ever be able to use him.

 

[Sephize]

I like dragging out old topics from the grave

What I'm wondering is would it be possible to change the melee system as it is now with something like metamod?

As much as I like 1.2.x I still really don't like the adv melee that was built in and I would love to try and program a way to take it out and rebuild the basic melee with some additional features (if possible) with the limited amount of experience I have in programming.

Going to the point of making an entirely new mod just to fix something which is in another mod is really hard and will take years of testing/programming/reading, not to mention creating models, animations etc. It is also nearly impossible to duplicate a mod up to a certain point since with source codes there are multiple ways of programming things. It is also possible that while programming u can never really have THAT thing u want. Which is something that I do not desire.

 

[Pain]

I like dragging out old topics from the grave

Too bad for you it's against the rules. Let's not have anymore of that shall we?