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Reason being is I'm building a new computer, so..should I just wait for DX10, and these cards?Cucumba said:Older cards might be compatable with DX10, but they will be unable to support hardware accelerated features of Direct3D that are debuting in DX10, like Primitive Shaders. It will essentially be the same thing as the big bump to DX9, which made some older hardware non-functional, and some middle aged entries work, but not have all the eye candy associated with DX9.
Exactly why I am waiting. They will have a better product since they are waiting unlike Nvidia. Also the price might drop a little.Mr. Zorg said:ATi's won't be released for quite a few months :/.
Dunno what you're talking about, I've had nothing but good things from Nvidia. They're cards are really superb. Also, just because Nvidia's cards come out first doesn't mean they're "rushed" or ****ty, it just means nvidia started before ATI.KidBoy17 said:Exactly why I am waiting. They will have a better product since they are waiting unlike Nvidia. Also the price might drop a little.
Does my 9800 run SM3.0? No, no it doesn't. Just like a 7900 won't run SM 4.0.chris` said:So here's my question. Will older video cards support DX10? And run almost as well as the 8800? Like the 7900GTX?
Considering how nVidia chop the performance of their cards in OpenGL so they can sell Quadro to businesses...Overlord said:I'm still eager to see how the R600 stacks up against G80. I hope that ATI will work at upping their performance in Opengl apps, as that's were nvidia usually will give them a pounding (depending on the game engine).
1234567890frsrblch said:Does my 9800 run SM3.0? No, no it doesn't. Just like a 7900 won't run SM 4.0.
so you're answering my question with a question? also if you hate nvidia why do you have one of their cards?
Considering how nVidia chop the performance of their cards in OpenGL so they can sell Quadro to businesses...
I'd love to see your proof to back that up
Instead of placing the unneccessary 1 through 10, why don't you actually just place your responses OUTSIDE of the quote?Chris` said:so you're answering my question with a question? also if you hate nvidia why do you have one of their cards?
I'd love to see your proof to back that up
There in lies a biggest misconception of DX10. One of the main reasons it's being intricately designed into Vista, completely separate of all previous versions is for efficiency. If they had to tie in DX9-DX2, they would be limited in what they'd be allowed to do. DX10 will allow any DX10 card to render scenes, which may have taken several passes for a DX9 card to do, in one pass. Not only this, but it'll allow DX10 cards the ability to process information completely separate from the computer's CPU until absolutely needed. All those extra visual enhancements seen in the Crysis DX10 videos could be done on DX9 hardware, but it would just take too long to render and too many passes compared to DX10. As such, it's safe to say: DX10 is efficiency in a box and any extra visuals you see are just the cream on the top.Cucumba said:Even so, do you want to be stuck with the next 5xxx Nvidia card?
DX10 is too new to guage, and you won't be sure of how a dx10 card will stack against another. Not to mention, the nearest dx10 game is far, far away. I bet HALO will use all DX9 functions, and not a drop of DX10 other than whats changed to make it function on it. That being said, the 8xxx series is a good card for DX9, no doubt about it. I'd say take the plunge, and upgrade again in a few years when it actually matters whether or not you have a DX10 Compliant Card or DX10 Compatable Card.
I don't think it's a valid comparison at all to compare the 8800s vs the 5X00s, or more accurately, DX10 vs DX9.Wikipedia said:According to Microsoft, Direct3D 10 will be able to display graphics up to 8 times faster than DirectX Graphics 9.0c.
No, my friend. Your 7900GTX will run Crysis fine, though, but only on DX9 settings.Chris` said:So here's my question. Will older video cards support DX10? And run almost as well as the 8800? Like the 7900GTX?
ATi isn't nearly as poor in OpenGL as they used to be. Any Doom 3 engine-esque benchmarks are proof.Overlord said:I hope that ATI will work at upping their performance in Opengl apps, as that's were nvidia usually will give them a pounding (depending on the game engine).
>_>... mebbe.Chris` said:http://www.oobies.org/
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