ESF or Budokai 2?

[niobe]

nop, wrong.
esf is realy not the best dbz game ever, dbu is already that
btw, zeq2(i don't look at the engines) looks and(for what i know about bfp, and that's a lot) is already better then esf, ceep in mind that i was a super pro in bfp.

 

[DiZ]

dbu?!? what's that?

 

[dOuGiE2K4]

Dragonball Unlimited. i think its an unreal tournament 2003 mod

 

[SPIDER-BITE]

but i was under the impression that esf is the most popular and successful and best dbz mod there is.

 

[DustMan2704]

the budokai games are terrible and now there is coming the 3rd game-.-bah.you cant even jump or crouch in that games so there is missing alot of stratetic fighting.esf ownz budokai in every way.nnaahh ok the graphics from budoaki are a bit better,but only till there coming better models for esf and maps with better textures.

 

[X-iT_W0uN|)]

ESF Duh what else

 

[KyoKusanagi]

1st Hyper Dimension
2nd ESF
3rd Super Butoden

 

[|_MgS_|]

budokai 2 is the best dbz game ever.. soon 3..

Esf is like: oh yeah, esf 1.2 is out!! it pwnds!!.. after some month's its boring..
but budokai is cool.. it's as cool as it was the first time you played it, every time you play it... just to see the special attacks every character have is so cool.. cant get tired of it (I know I cant)

 

[Soulicro]

Are you people insane?

you cant compare the two games

ESF is a third/first person shooter. Budokai 2 is a FIGHTING GAME. ESF is a HALF LIFE, COUNTER STRIKE, RAINBOW SIX type of game. Budokai 2 is a TEKKEN, MORTAL KOMBAT, STREET FIGHTER type of game. you cannot compare the two when it comes to gameplay! and when it comes to DBZ features (as in SSJ3, Fusion, Combos, Special attacks, and most of all Characters) Budokai 2 has everything that ESF doesnt have (yet).

 

[TehMuffinMan]

you cant get tired of budokai? your alone there..i rented it, completed it and never touched it again until i sent it back, esf has a larger lastability, but still gets boring, oh what i'd do for some proper graphics and violence away from the dbz theme in esf! D:

 

[|_MgS_|]

you cant get tired of budokai? your alone thereQUOTE]

lol.. play it with some friends then

 

[TehMuffinMan]

i did, it was all "woo! i did the super spirit bomB! omfg!!!1!.. then the gameplay gets soo exausted... played it at a friends too, still only went for about 5 mins, then put soul caliber II back in =)

 

[|_MgS_|]

hehe.. you have to enjoy the game .. =)

 

[C VON]

(off topic) i over played soul caliber 2...good game though
(on topic) i havent gotten bored of esf and probably wont

 

[Phatslugga]

Are you people insane?

you cant compare the two games

ESF is a third/first person shooter. Budokai 2 is a FIGHTING GAME. ESF is a HALF LIFE, COUNTER STRIKE, RAINBOW SIX type of game. Budokai 2 is a TEKKEN, MORTAL KOMBAT, STREET FIGHTER type of game. you cannot compare the two when it comes to gameplay! and when it comes to DBZ features (as in SSJ3, Fusion, Combos, Special attacks, and most of all Characters) Budokai 2 has everything that ESF doesnt have (yet).

Sorry, but you're wrong. While ESF may be in the 3rd/1st person view, it's still mainly a fighter than anything else now. I'd agree if you called it a fighter/shooter though. It's very unique in the fact that there's a 3d environment you can manuever around in fluently which is why i think most people don't classify it as a fighter. Fighters don't have to be 2-dimensional side-scrollers, they're not limited to that. It really depends on what aspect of play the game focuses on. If it focuses more on the projectile types of attacks (guns, beams etc..) then it's a shooter, but if it mainly focuses on fighting, then it's a fighter, or you can just meet a compromise and call it a mix between the two. We all know that 1.2 mainly focuses on melee. You could argue that 1.1 isn't a fighter, but the team's ambition was to create an arcade style beat-em up. The game isn't completed yet, so if it doesn't seem that it's a fighter to you, that might be part of the reason ( allthough I don't see how anyone couldn't see ESF 1.2 as a fighter)

Just becuase they have different styles doesn't mean they aren't comparible, they're still both fighters, and they're both about DBZ, those are two good reasons to compare them. While any Budokai game sucks complete ass to the highest degree, I was very impressed with ESF, and think it's one of the best games I've played, period. Not just in the DBZ genre, but in all genre's.

 

[Skiwan]

i did, it was all "woo! i did the super spirit bomB! omfg!!!1!.. then the gameplay gets soo exausted... played it at a friends too, still only went for about 5 mins, then put soul caliber II back in =)

erm, thats the only thing i disagree with, budokai 2 is awesome when ur mates are there, u can play for hours, but with soul caliber u can finish the fight in seconds, pretty *** if there's 8 people there, and they all only get 2 20 second fights cuz one of the people owns the game and coincidently owns every1 else. Where as (even though some people are harder to beat) you can fight any1 in budokai and have fun fighting, because everythin is so basic its nice to play, any1 can put up a fight, and it gets competative instead of 1 person owning every1. However esf is better than both games, because its pure genius, great mobility, diverse attacks, enless posibilities, combo's etc. I luv it all.

 

[Phatslugga]

Eh, If both the players know what they're doing and are on equal skill levels in SC2, the fight can last a pretty long time. Budokai fights can last long too, but they're retarded. If they had at least a more complex blocking system then it would be better. All you have to do is hold block, and you'll pretty much never get hit, with exception to the slow easy to see block breaker hits. The game just doesn't have much to it at all. While SC2 you can manuever around your enemy with great ease, there's a complex blocking/parry/counter system.

All of the characters are unique in look, style, and moves, while in DBZ the only real difference in most of the characters is how they look. The fights not only look better and feel better, they just plain ARE better. Budokai fights look and feel horribly repetetive. The combo's only differ from eachother slightly and cinematic moves are just stupid. Cinematic moves completley ruin the momentum of the game, they don't belong in a fast paced fighter (which isn't what budokai is anyway, so I can see why they put them in). You're having a great fight, both players can barely keep up with eachother, suddenly the gameplay stops and a cinematic starts becuase somoene managed to trigger it... stupid.

 

[SailorAlea]

You can't really compare ESF to Budokai 2.
However, they share some of the same flaws..

The thing that really made the Budokai games not good fighting games, were "Stock Moves." Every character was pretty much the same, except for the way the moves looked, and the cutscenes played.

Punch Punch Punch Energy.. Punch Punch Kick Kick Kick.. The majority of the characters had the exact same moves, they didn't even bother creating unique animations for everybody.

Having lots of characters is great, but not if they're not unique.

ESF suffers from this too, when it comes to Advanced Melee. Personally, I think each character should have different combo strings, not just universal ones.

Sure, with 2 people you can have "lengthy" battles in Budokai2--but as Phatsluggah said, they're crappy ones.

Soul Calibur for instance, with use of the repel and parry system, created skillful battles, though if one person wasn't as good, it would definitely show (as it should.) (As a sidenote, I preferred SC1 to SC2.)

Anyway..

Budokai has by far better graphics, but by far worse gameplay..

On overall 'fun' rating, I'd have to pick ESF.

 

[C VON]

wow i didnt think this would be that popular

 

[Coolica]

Maybe you guys should just compare Bodoukai 2 with GT Final Bout...