Who is the tuffest in dbz [movies & eps]

[{cheese}SNIPeR]

Keep in mind, GT doesnt even count

And GOKU AND VEGETA BOTH CHEATED TO GO SSJ4!!!

Did goku have a tail? NO!
did vegeta have a tail? NO!

they both had to use an invention to go ssj4, so it doesnt count. I dont care waht you say, they both cheated.

Vegeta is by far the toughest, he always fights the strong guys, and kills the weak, but he can never win since the series revolves around goku (one time gohan). Vegeta may not be the strongest, but definitly the toughest. When everyone else cant defend themselves, or goku is doing whatever he does, Vegeta swollows his pride and defends his friends, even though he is going to lose. Examples:

Vegeta fights frieza while goku heals
Vegeta fights cell while goku trains
Vegeta fights Buu while Goku was knocked out (by Vegeta, lol)
Vegeta kills metal kooler, saving goku.
Vegeta gives energy to goku so he can kill brolly.
Vegeta hurts cell so Gohan can kill cell.
Vegeta saves goku against buu by wishing for all of his strength back, so he can deflect the spirit bomb back.

Goku is tough to, dont get me wrong. He is as tough as Vegeta.

Gogeta and veggeto dont count, cuz they are a fusion of 2 people. Even though they are the strongest. Veggito RULES!

 

[Ecchi Pr0n]

gogeta and vegetto are in different catagory

all in all Gohan is the strongest but is serverly underestimated he can go mystic and even go higher but you never see him do it and then brolly and goku and finally vegeta

and whos storgnger gogeta and vegetto lets just take and example

Goku:9 and Vegeta 7 in billions

gogeta formila
X=Y+[z-(Y-u}

so basicly
goku is at 9 so he has to lower his PL to 7 so

vegeta 7 +goku 7=PL 14

Vegetto formila
X=Y+U
so basicly 9+7=PL 16

 

[nsw316]

aha but check it..
GOGETA
goku and vegeta can power up before the merge... as in
vegeta pl= 14@ssj4
goku pl=16 @ssj4... (just examples..)
so itd be 14+14=28pl

VEGETTO
goku and vegeta will be reg saiyajins before fusion cuz the old kai said taht saiyajins would prob live shorter if they transformed at full power so itd be
vegta =7
goku=9
15 reg saiyajin vegetto..
but then powers up and is
25 at ssj

 

[Synth]

ssj4 gogeta is the strongest in all of the DBZ manga.

but gohan is the toughest because he was whooping really strong guys since he was an infant

 

[Ecchi Pr0n]

Originally posted by Majin Gotenks
aha but check it..
GOGETA
goku and vegeta can power up before the merge... as in
vegeta pl= 14@ssj4
goku pl=16 @ssj4... (just examples..)
so itd be 14+14=28pl

VEGETTO
goku and vegeta will be reg saiyajins before fusion cuz the old kai said taht saiyajins would prob live shorter if they transformed at full power so itd be
vegta =7
goku=9
15 reg saiyajin vegetto..
but then powers up and is
25 at ssj

don't count DBGT mechanics

they could only fuse in vegeta reducde SSJ2 form and there

but in vegetto they can go all the way to lvl 3

 

[Prowler]

Fusion doesnt double the streanght of the 2 that is fusien...take buu sage for example...Majiin Vegetas [Normal Vegeta has a pl on 340,000,000] pl in ssj2 is 360,000,000 when gokus is also 360,000,000...and when they fuse Vegeta isnt majiin so their pl´s then are 340 and 360million....Vegettos pl isnt 700million i normal stadge....its more and as a SSJ vegettos pl is 1,400,000,000...and buu´s power level then was 600,000,000....a bit diffrent dont you think, no wonder why he couldnt to anything to vegetto.. but one more point here....Mystic Gohans powerlevel was 450,000,000....if he would have gone ssj his pl would have landen on near 1,000,000,000....then earth would have exploded acourting to the daoshin cy, well dont you think the earth would have exploded when Vegetto gone ssj....its sorry that Vegetto never gone SSJ2...imaging that power, buu would have taken hercules .45 and killed him self...atleast tryed to kill him self..
And lets jump to GT, in SSJ vegetas pl is 550....and thats just after he has turned ssj not powerd up in ssj....dont you think that in the end of GT when gokus and vegetas pl exteds 10,000,000,000 in ssj4 that the world would explode then...or when "SSJ4 GOGETA" turns the heat up with a pl over 20,000,000,000.......so lets try to get gohan to go ssj in dbz...heh..in our heads...then he could have fought side by side with vegetto because gohan can go ssj2..then he would not have been far from vegettos pl..."when vegetto is ssj".....ps: Krillin exeds 100,000,000 in pl before dbz ends=)....thats very important...becase freezer´s, freeza´s, furiza´s, frieza´s PL is 12,5,000,000....;P ***so go krillin, kuririn.....:yes:

 

[Ecchi Pr0n]

tooo much to read but anyway

fusion doesnt double their power but adds them together

 

[nsw316]

vegetto never went ssj3... and does he ever do the final kamehameha in the show? funny how the scouters broke so we dont know exact powerlevels.. huh?? cuz like everything in the post about powerlevels wouldnt be accurtate..
for example goku ssj3 pl is 1,000,000 one might record... or even less....and also i dont think u can go ssj while mystic... ive never heard in teh show that the earth would explode if gohan was ssj and mystic but if he was a smart fighter he would do that... after teleporting dende to new namek...

 

[Ecchi Pr0n]

well i used simple numbers for problems

anyway vegetto could go SSJ3 but idnt do it

 

[nsw316]

the pl comment was ment for prowler... he never said he could go ssj3... i think just cuz both could go ssj2 vegetto went ssj if both could go ssj3 then he would go ssj2 see what i mean?

 

[L33T ha4or]

yeah pisses me off how they neutered gohan with the didnt train for 7 years crap so goku could be the strongest again ;( ;( ;(

 

[Prowler]

Well gohan studyd for 7years so he could be smarter then his paa..
But Vegeta trained harder...becase think..after cell games vegeta had a pl on 100,000,000 and goku 125,000,000,000....on buu sage 7years later vegeta have a pl on 340,000,000,000...he caught up 5million...heh slaky goku. :fight:

 

[nsw316]

op ya well look t this gohans pl at the cell games was 1 mil but at the buu saga it 3mil.. and when his power was awaken it was 5mil whil vegeta was only at 3mil ... see how powerlevelz dont matter... dont base our information on PLguesses form the internet.. but all in all the toughesdt would be buu i mean he never got hur until the genki dama taht took forever to charge.

 

[Prowler]

well it cant be 3mill...freeza says him self in form 2 that his pl probebly exeds 1million....so all theese years of traing [and when they get beat up and regenrate and the sayins power levels get much higher] they still be around 3million!?!?!?!...ey whats the logic in that....then frieza could have beat gohan in buu sage...becase his power gets 2.5 times stronger everytime he transformed in to a new stadge so in his ultimate form his power level was around 12 or something like that..if what you are saying is right frieza was still the strongest fighter...goku just hade "luck" when he beat frieza..so did trunks!!=) :talk:

 

[nsw316]

yes indeed they had luck... it was just an example i mean you cant really tell how strong they are now thats y i said my last post i figured u would catch on to taht concept.

 

[Prowler]

I understood your point but understand my point to!!=)
"""hope you were kidding that goku hade luck against freeza...he played with him!=):fight:

 

[Prowler]

Originally posted by Judge
Gogeta is the strongest fighter in all of DBZ. but he aint on the list

*EDIT* I edditted the poll and added gogeta *EDIT*

eh...he was always on the list, and you cant edit "my" poll=)...just making a statement here

 

[nsw316]

Originally posted by Prowler
I understood your point but understand my point to!!=)
"""hope you were kidding that goku hade luck against freeza...he played with him!=):fight:

i was kidding./.. but that trunks freeza king cold fight.. taht was all luck.. (im kidding there too...) but by toughest u mean strongest or tough as in who can withstand the modt hits?

 

[L33T ha4or]

people are so ghey they dont see the obvious truth because of their huge bais, i am enforcing any opinion here except that these poles never show the real truth but peoples warped views of it

 

[Fixxxer]

BROLLY MOST DEFINATELY! He came back in 3 movies! and he was a zombie in 1 of em! how can you beat that!