which ss4 is the strongest

[DaWg]

Mystic causes him unable to go ssj. He eithers uses 1 or the other, he cant combine them. If he could, he would have just become ssj2 while fighting gotenks buu and won.

 

[Evgenij]

Gogeta would own Broly with one hit... Even if hi will be able to block it some how he will probably get his arms cripled or just cut away like Tien hand in Saiyan Saga. Same with Veggeto he would probably kill Broly with 1 hit.

 

[Vers Vlees]

Mystic gohan cant go SSJ because the earth's does boom when he would try that

 

[TTSS]

Originally posted by Engar
Well technically Mystic Gohan was even stronger than Goku in SSJ 3 so I'd have to say Super Saiyan 4 Mystic Gohan would be the strongest.

rofl
no he wasnt
mystic gohan got is butt beat up by buu when he absorbed gotenks. goku was way stronger since he fought and could've destroyed kid buu if he wasnt dumb enough to think about giving vegeta a chance. so actually ss4goku is the strongest .

 

[Engar]

Lol, Mystic Gohan could kick the ass of Super Buu who was at the very least twice as strong as Fat Buu without trying. SSJ 3 Goku could, if he went all out, have beaten Fat Buu. What does this tell you?

Kid Buu was weaker than Super Buu.
Kid Buu was about equal, maybe a little stonger than Fat Buu.
Kid Buu was much weaker than Mystic Gohan and SSJ 3 Gotenks, both of whom were a lot stronger than Goku at the end of the show.

It just doesn't make sense for Gohan to be weaker than Goku, Goku could never have gone one on one against Super Buu but Gohan managed it with ease.

My two cents..

 

[TTSS]

Originally posted by Engar
Lol, Mystic Gohan could kick the ass of Super Buu who was at the very least twice as strong as Fat Buu without trying. SSJ 3 Goku could, if he went all out, have beaten Fat Buu. What does this tell you?

Kid Buu was weaker than Super Buu.
Kid Buu was about equal, maybe a little stonger than Fat Buu.
Kid Buu was much weaker than Mystic Gohan and SSJ 3 Gotenks, both of whom were a lot stronger than Goku at the end of the show.

dude
kid buu was the ultimate form of buu. kid buu was the STRONGEST buu. he even beat fat majin buu easily.
gohan lost to super buu which had gotenks. after goku got them out of him he transformed him back into kid buu, the original buu, which was the strongest. i think you're mixing buu's up o_o
so again. goku would be strongest

 

[Engar]

Look, I know its confusing and doesn't make sense but thats the way it is.

Fat Buu > SSJ 3 Goku > Super Buu > Mystic Gohan.

Kid Buu cant be stronger cause otherwise Goku wouldn't have stood a chance. Remember Goku had said that if he went all out he might have been able to beat Fat Buu. How could he need to push himself against Fat Buu then come anywhere near Kid Buu afterwards.

Kid Buu must be just a little stronger than Fat Buu, it's the only thing that makes sense.

Anyway, SSJ 4 Mystic Gohan would be transforming with his Mystic Pl as the base which is at least stronger than SSJ 2 Goku. Therefore he would have to be stronger as an SSJ 4 than Goku.

 

[TehMuffinMan]

lol... methinks brolly will pwn the rest, this is becuase if you watch the movie, he can raise his powerlevel as much as he likes, it just takes time, but still... if brolly can beat goku, gohan, trunks, all ssj with there energy all together, methink thats almost the power of ssj3 ^_^, also he only went ussj.. wonder what happens at ssj4... lol

 

[Evgenij]

Still Veggeto in his normal form (non ssj) has overpowered Goku SSJ3 easily, like it was nothing

 

[esfn00b]

what i dont get, is that if goku in ssj3 could have beaten Kid Buu, why did he need to become vegito to beat super buu?
and i voted for brolli because i have never seen im except in DBZ games but he is the best in all the, so i voted him. (DBGT hasnt come on in New Zealand yet)

 

[Mr. Drew]

kid buu was the weakest, because he was the original, and he just absorbed some ki's to get the fat form and a little bit of good in him, and the good in fat buu make him act weaker, super buu was pure evil and so he was the strongest, but kid buu was even more evil then him and was insane, which made him a better fighter and what not.....

 

[GMan]

Power:

Fat Buu < Kid Buu < Evil Buu < Super Buu < Picollo Buu < Gotenks Buu < Gohan Buu

Afaik.

 

[Skiwan]

no, kid buu was the strongest, cuz all the other forms of buu had that fat kai in him which purposely kept his power level down and kid buu was the most evil, goku didnt beat kid buu ssj3 ne way it was a spirit bomb, ssj3 goku would/did get his ass kicked against evry version of buu cept fat buu, the weakest.... gohan mystic is stronger than SSJ3 and thats the bottom line.

 

[esfn00b]

but he says that if he had fought at full power from the beginning he could have beaten kid buu. He was draging out the fight so vegeta could get a go, but he doesnt realise that vegeta isnt strong enough. I think kid buu is weaker than super buu because like i said, goku could beat kid buu ssj3 but not super buu.

also:
"Fat Buu < Kid Buu < Evil Buu < Super Buu < Picollo Buu < Gotenks Buu < Gohan Buu"

Thats wrong. Gohan buu is super buu, so im not sure what buu is called when evil buu absorbs fat buu. Its all so confusing :S

 

[Smith|]

Buu Saga
Fat Buu: 45,000,000
Majin Buu: 80,000,000
Good Buu: 55,000,000
Evil Buu: 65,000,000
Super Buu: 70,000,000
Ultimate Buu: 50,000,000
Majin Gotenks Buu: 50,000,000
Majin Vegetto Buu: 100,000,000
Son Gokou: 5,000,000
Son Gokou Super Sayain: 27,000,000
Son Gokou Super Sayain Level 2: 49,000,000
Son Gokou Super Sayain Level 3: 79,000,000
Son Gokou Mega Genki Dama(Mega Spirit Bomb): 100,000,000
Piccolo: 26,000,000
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Son Gohan Super Saiyan: 25,000,000
Son Gohan Super Sayain Level 2: 45,000,000
Son Gohan with the Z sword: 53,500,000
Son Goten: 1,500,000
Son Goten Super Saiyan: 10,000,000
Trunks: 1,500,000
Trunks Super Sayain: 10,000,000
Gotenks: 3,000,000
Gotenks Super Sayain: 20,000,000
Gotenks Super Sayain Level 2: 40,000,000
Gotenks Super Sayain Level 3: 75,000,000
Vegeta: 5,000,000
Vegeta Super Saiyan: 26,000,000
Vegeta Super Sayain Level 2: 49,000,000
Vegetto: 10,000,000
Vegetto Super Sayain: 53,000,000
Vegetto Super Sayain Level 2: 99,500,000
Vegetto if Vegeta could have gone Super Sayain Level 3: 159,499,999








Dragonball GT


Bebi Saga
Pilaf: 100
Son Gokou: 10,000,000
Chibi Son Gokou: 2,000,000
Chibi Super Saiyan Gokou: 5,000,000
Chibi Super Saiyan Gokou 2: 20,000,000
Chibi Super Sayain Gokou 3: 45,000,000
Son Gokou Golden Oozaru: 50,000,000
Super Saiyan Gokou Level 4: 160,000,000
Vegeta: 10,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta: 30,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 2: 50,000,000
Vegeta Bebi-Ooharazu: 165,000,000
Son Gohan: 9,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 27,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan 2: 50,000,000
Son Goten: 2,500,000
Super Sayain Goten: 15,000,000
Trunks: 2,500,000
Super Saiyan Trunks: 5,000,000 (WHAT!?)
Super 17 Era
Android 17: 77,000,000
Pan: 35,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 71,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 72,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 63,800,000
SSJ Goten: 63,500,000
Rudou: 73,000,000
Super Android 17: 176,700,000
SSJ4 Gokou: 158,000,000
Android 18: 36,000,000
Krillin: 3,000,000
Nappa: 17,000,000
Freeza: 34,000,000
Cell" 35,000,000
Gokou Dragon Punch: 188,000,000


Evil Shenlong Saga
All 7 Shenlong Dragons: 75,000,000
All the weakened Shenlongs: 50,000,000
The last Shenlong after absorbing the Dragon Balls: 350,000,000
Son Gokou: 3,000,000
Super Saiyan Gokou: 10,000,000
Super Saiyan Gokou 2: 25,000,000
Super Saiyan Gokou 3: 50,000,000
Super Saiyan Gokou 4: 180,000,000
Son Gokou after merging with Shenlong and absorbing all 7 Dragon Balls (HIGHEST POWER LEVEL EVER) 1,000,000,000
Vegeta: 15,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta: 35,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 2: 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta 4: 180,000,000
Super Saiyan Gogeta 4: 360,000,000

 

[Smith|]

once again I pwn a thread *bump*

 

[TTSS]

Originally posted by esfn00b
but he says that if he had fought at full power from the beginning he could have beaten kid buu. He was draging out the fight so vegeta could get a go, but he doesnt realise that vegeta isnt strong enough. I think kid buu is weaker than super buu because like i said, goku could beat kid buu ssj3 but not super buu.

also:
"Fat Buu < Kid Buu < Evil Buu < Super Buu < Picollo Buu < Gotenks Buu < Gohan Buu"

Thats wrong. Gohan buu is super buu, so im not sure what buu is called when evil buu absorbs fat buu. Its all so confusing :S

he didnt beat the socalled gohanbuu because gohan goten trunks and piccolo were still in that buu. if he would've destroyed him he would've destroyed his sons and friends too;x

 

[Engar]

Originally posted by TTSS
he didnt beat the socalled gohanbuu because gohan goten trunks and piccolo were still in that buu. if he would've destroyed him he would've destroyed his sons and friends too;x

Also Goku was 100% outclassed by Gohanbuu..

Why do you think Goku and Vegeta bothered fusing? It was a last resort, a desperate attempt to beat a foe much more powerful than Goku and Vegeta.

 

[Vegeta]

Well technically Mystic Gohan was even stronger than Goku in SSJ 3 so I'd have to say Super Saiyan 4 Mystic Gohan would be the strongest.

No he was not. Gohan was around the same strength or maybe weaker, it wasnt determined in the series. Kid buu was weaker than gohan buu , but gotenks buu was stronger than mystic gohan, and kid buu was stronger than gotenks buu, and goku at ssj3 fought kid buu almost equally, if gohan was that strong then he wouldnt have had that much trouble with Gotenks buu. thus, Gohan was around the same strength as goku at ssj3, xept Goku is a better fighter than gohan and can last alot longer than him.

 

[Wargeta]

what the heck ssj 4 mystic gohan he didnt even go ssj. neway, i think mytic gohan was stronger than goku ssj3, cuz it was all of gohan's "suppressed" or hidden powers (what ever the old kai said). But goku's definitely a smarter and better fighter.

kid buu was the strongest form of buu cuz there was nothing holding him back and he was pure evil. alls you gotta do is listen to what the kais say since they know the most about buu.

but mystic krillin thats another story. he would have kicked everybody's ass. he just didn't believe in himself.