What I think Attacks and Transformations should be. My List.

What do you think about my more reasonable ideas for techniques and trans?

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----------------------BEFORE YOU LOOK BELOW-----------------------

This is a list of what I personally think ALL the Attacks and Transformations
should be for the Characters. Not any made up crap thats not even a technique
like the Kame-Torpedos. This list goes by the Series. The Transformations and
the Attacks they've used go by order. And its a fact. When a Saiyan goes Super
Saiyan. Their not at full power. Their at normal SSJ Power. But they have the
ability to push it up. Thats why most characters have Mid Power, and Full Power.
Power Ups as Transformations for their last Moves. I list the Dragon Fist
because I think that Kakarott diserves it. HarSens never said NO MOVIE TECHNIQUES
right? He only said No Movie/GT Characters. And im sure not having the Dragon Fist
in the Series is just a coinsidence. Cause "I Think" Gokou used it on Piccolo Daimoa
to punch through his stomache. Maybe it was a head butt. Dont know. Either way.
I Think he made that technique up. No one tought him because, No one knows or even
bothers to ask how Kakarott learned it. And the Mid Power/Full power is a perfect
excuse to even it out with Majin Buu's Transformations. Most Characters that go
Full Power are Able to only use it temporary because of the tense pressure on
their body. For Example, Frieza Form 4, In the last few Episodes of his battle
with Gokou, Gokou tells him in the 2nd last episode its over cause his power is
slowly draining, And everyone knows SSJ3 cant last long at Full Power. So thats
a perfect excuse to not have SSJ3 30 mins or have it for less than even 5 minutes
in the early stage. And some Attacks are just to make the Character non-useless.
Their not made up. Their just another type of Generic Beam. Like Kikoha. The only
people that use that is Vegeta, Gokou, and Vegetto. But its really just a Generic
Beam not a special Technique where they shoot multiple beams from their finger tips.
And the Barrier for Gohan should prevent him getting hit from Generic Beams, Ki Blasts.
And attacks like Rezoku Energy Dan and unblockable beams(Finger Lasers, Eye Beams)
And that includes Disk.

Kakarott:
Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kienzan, Kamehameha, Solar Flare, Genki Dama.
SSJ: Ki blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy dan, Kamehameha, Kikoha, Solar Flare
SSJ2: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Chou Kamehameha, Solar Flare
SSJ3: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Chou Kamehameha
SSJ3(Full Power/Temporary): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kamehameha, Dragon Fist
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Vegeta:

Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Gallit Gun
SSJ: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Kikoha, Gallit Gun, Big Bang Attack
USSJ(Temporary): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Kikoha, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash
SSJ2: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Scatter Shot, Final Flash
SSJ2(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Rezoku Energy Dan, Big Bang Attack, Final Flash
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Cell:

Imperfect: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kamehameha
Imperfect 2: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Gallit Gun
Perfect: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Special Beam Cannon, Kamehameha, Destructo Disk
Perfect(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Chou Kamehameha, Special Beam Cannon
Perfect(Reborn/powered up/more power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Duel Destructo Disk, Kamehameha
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Frieza:

Form 1: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Eye Beam, Death Ball
Form 2: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Laser Finger, Eye Beam
Form 3: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Attack in Melee
Form 4: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Laser Finger, Eye Beam, Time Bomb, Death Ball
Form 4(Full Power/Temporary): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Melee, Death Ball
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Majin Buu:

Fat: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kamehameha, Candy Attack, Regeneration
Skinny: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Mouth Blast, Kamehameha, Candy Attack, Regeneration
Super: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Mouth Blast, Body Part Attack, Candy Attack
Super(Snapped/Angry/Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Death Ball, Genocide, Regeneration
Kid: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Genocide, Mouth Blast, Regeneration, Candy Attack
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Krillin:

Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kamehameha, Solar Flare, Scatter Beam
Normal(Mid Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Soukidan, Kamehameha, Solar Flare
Normal(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Destructo Disk, Chou Kamehameha
Mirai: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Scatter Beam, Increased Melee, Kamehameha
Mirai(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Soukidan, Scatter Beam, Kamehameha, Destructo Disk
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Trunks:

Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Kikoha, Burning Attack
SSJ: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Melee, Burning Attack
USSJ(Temporary): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Melee
ASSJ: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Finishing Buster, Kikoha, Increased Melee
ASSJ(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Melee, Finishing Buster, Burning Attack
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Piccolo:

Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Special Beam Cannon, Auto Regen
Normal(More Buffed/Garlic Jr. Saga): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Masenko, Auto-Regen
Super: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Scatter Shot, Special Beam Cannon, Masenko, Auto-Regen
Super(Mid Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Makosen, Scatter Shot, Masenko, Auto-Regen
Super(Full Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Scatter Shot, Special Beam Cannon, Makosen, Auto-Regen
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Gohan:

Normal: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Masenko, Shield
SSJ: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Masenko, Kamehameha
SSJ2: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Chou Kamehameha, Barrier
SSJ2(Mid Power): Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Masenko, Increased Melee
SSJ2(Full Power): Ki Blast,Generic Beam, Masenko, Chou Kamehameha, Increased Melee, Barrier
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whoa man,i like the sound of that,but it would probably take a long time to make,all the sprites,models,skinning etc etc.








hope one day itll happen perhaps :D



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is this all you do? this is the 2nd post that you have made on attacks, but geez! you put some work in this! its long... too long, i gave up half way, but yeah, the attacks are pretty good and would liven things up instead of da lucky few gettin a few attacks, everyone is overloaded with em! how will we choose! spendin 5 mins talking to yaself about witch attack will be the coolest to use, blah blah ect..i give up, too late, but still id rather have too much than too little :p
my 2 cents.
 
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When I said gohan I never said adult gohan :S
I think their making Adult Gohan a sepurate class.
But anyway, I didn't add vegeta's majin because it'd make
ESF more like dedicated to the majin buu saga and it was only
temporary.

I also dislike Majin cause its not even a transformation all you
have is a M on your head. When people say Majin vegeta they
think vegeta was only Majin as normal. But your forgetting he
could go SSJ/SSJ2 as majin so it'd be really useless. Cause then
they would have to make All of vegeta's transformations temporary. Cause of the lost of energy.

EDIT:

To be more specific. I like their NORMAL Transformations.
Not some stupid magic spells that make you go evil or good with
more power.
 
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interesting,i would have to say i do agree with most of them, maybe a little tweaking here and there, but i like the fact you would like to "increase melee" nice touch. I disagree on two, buu and cell. though i agree the attacks are fine, it where you placed them. i'm not going to make up my own and i realise these are yours, but in Cell's final form didn'the have freeza's finger beams? so i think it would be in his highest tier. As for buu, i really dont think he should have a "Candy Attack" in his first tier maybe replace it with "body part attack"

also would u mind explaining the difference between ghoahsn sheild and Barrier. many thanks :)
 
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Well It is hard as heck to explain.
But the Barrier manages to desintigrate small beams.
Android 17 also uses it to protect himself in the fight with Piccolo.
And Vegetto used the barrier when he went inside majin buu. But
when he let the barrier go the fusion broke loose.

Anyway I think the shield was just a dome of ki.
Where he only used it in Garlic Jr. Saga to protect Piccolo and Krillin
from getting sucked into the Dead Zone. After timing everything
right he releases all the ki that he had put into the shield to destroy
the makeo star. Dont remember the name, but its that big red
planet where garlic jr. was getting his power from. When it got
closer to the earth he got stronger.
 

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this is a really sweet idea, but i think the ESF team would have their work cut out for them if they went for it
i think that something you might want to consider would be to have Gohan's first form be what he looked like in the Raditz saga, with the yellow poncho and the dragonball in his hat.

He could have increased mele damage and his charge attack would be the killer headbutt he nails Raditz with. And his shield should have a 10 second time limit and raise his Ki/damage
Of course he'd be weak, but that could be compensated for by allowing him to transform early on

a little change, but i think it would make the game suit the series more. The downside would be having to make a whole new model for him
 
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Originally posted by Proud_Prince
Well It is hard as heck to explain.
But the Barrier manages to desintigrate small beams.
Android 17 also uses it to protect himself in the fight with Piccolo.
And Vegetto used the barrier when he went inside majin buu. But
when he let the barrier go the fusion broke loose.

Anyway I think the shield was just a dome of ki.
Where he only used it in Garlic Jr. Saga to protect Piccolo and Krillin
from getting sucked into the Dead Zone. After timing everything
right he releases all the ki that he had put into the shield to destroy
the makeo star. Dont remember the name, but its that big red
planet where garlic jr. was getting his power from. When it got
closer to the earth he got stronger.
dont worry i understood, thanks. though wouldn't you prefer that sheild with a #17 model ;) ( i definatly would, mainly the #17 model... ok just the #17 model )

- later
 
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lmao. ok.
Yeah it'd be good for 17 too but I dont think their ever going
to add him to esf :cry:
 

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Form 3: Ki Blast, Generic Beam, Increased Attack in Melee
frieza form 3 should have the attack he did on piccolo with all those little kiblasts everywhere tearin him apart
 
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I dont remember that.
I haven't seen Frieza saga in a really long time. Probably will find
clips on that.
 
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Nice work. You really put your back into it. Well, more like your fingertips but still is alot of writing. I hope the esf team shows at least a little of attention to this one. Though we will probably be seein 3 transforms per character not 4 or 5 like you suggest. Not that it wouldnt be excellent, but you are demanding a lot.:D
When you refer to the characters in the series pushing their power up(when you refer to mid/full power) that is exactly what turbo is. Attacks and melee go stronger but it drains ki as you go.
I think you are asking for too many models. I dont know maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you werent referring to the turbo. More or less something like the trunks in mid point 1/2 in the show that overinflates himself with energy his body cant take. Be sure to include a speed penalty if this is the case. As you probably remember his speed went down heavily and thats why he lost.
 
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though really this is nothing the team hasnt thought of or concidered
 
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true. But give the man his credit for his work even if it was quite pointless. The team got that far for sure.
But let him show off his skills. It was quite an admirable amount of words and effort.
Maybe he wants in on the project. (esf)
Let him try and do what an entire team of people are doing. Maybe if he pulls this off theyll let him in.

Dont get angry with me im not serious. Except that part of the effort.
 
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Originally posted by alejandroc
true. But give the man his credit for his work even if it was quite pointless. The team got that far for sure.
But let him show off his skills. It was quite an admirable amount of words and effort.
Maybe he wants in on the project. (esf)
Let him try and do what an entire team of people are doing. Maybe if he pulls this off theyll let him in.

Dont get angry with me im not serious. Except that part of the effort.
cause i was gonna say i dont think the team needs someone to think of ideas :rolleyes:
 
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Hibiki - i might be out of line here, but this is a "suggestion forum" you know where member suggest idea's they would like to see.

the mod isn't perfect, not yet anyway and if someone saves them the time of coming up with some attack set, then i think it would be welcome.

Twilight - increase melee, probably means just more damage done when you attack someone

alejandroc - you dont acually have to change the model itself, just one part of it and the skin. eg

goku transforming from sj to ssj3; you would have a keep the model goku body/legs/arm and only change the head/hair ( depends how they have model it) then its just a case of skinning the new head/hair model and writing some coding to replace it when you transform. So it what they have now. they use the same body model, just change the head/hair model

so theres not as much modeling to be done as you think :)

frieza form 3 should have the attack he did on piccolo with all those little kiblasts everywhere tearin him apart
rapid fire, thats the attack name (i think) i remember the one, he uses a finger from each hand and fires energy balls like a uzi. piccolo did the same during the cell saga, i think (dont quote me on that)
 

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