The Ultimate *MERGED* Gotenks Thread

[Saiyan Knight]

no. i've seen better models, those models arent that great anyways, they are dated.

and whats this "replacing xx" crap. just put the model in whoevers folder, i dont understand peoples problems.

if you want gohan to be vegito... paste the model over gohan.

i'd rather have another custom model for gotenks, kreshi's is a bit tall and goofy looking.

1: i know how to replace models

2: could you show me those better models?

3: The kreshi one just needs to be tweaked a bit

 

[EncorE_SX]

The thing in quote seems reasonable. Look it at this : you have both Goten & Trunks, as new classes. And when you do buddy move, you fuse. It would be that simple...
Ascension & fusion should be completley two different things.
And who says you wouldn't play with Goten or chibi Trunks?
To having two different Trunks could be fun, since he is A LOT faster when he was kid then when he was older ( future ).
The main weapon of Goten and Trunks should be their speed. They were fastest Z warriors in show. And imo, they only need that team makes 3-4 new attacks ( 2 for Goten and 2 for Trunks ).

I really like the suggestion in quote. Except the part "without arrows". That would be insane, lmao. Take that suggestion from quote, and tweak the fusion princip, and leave Goten&chibi Trunks concept as it is, since it look far the best for me.

 

[Saiyan Knight]

Goten and Trunks buddy
HP
Goten: 90
Trunks:100
starting pl
Goten: 500,000
Trunks: 550,000
speed
Goten: 240
Trunks: 220
pl multiplier: depends on the dev team
attacks
Goten
4-Kamekameha: a faster charging, less powered Kamehameha.
Trunks
4-Double buster: like a mini final flash. no aurora.
7- Fusion: 5 arrows come up (no randoms) if you fail you turn fat or old(if we can get the models and animations for them) for 5 minutes then you have to wait 3 minutes to fuse again or as an alternate (if we cant get the models etc) they just screw up and you go back to goten and trunks.
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Super saiyans
transformation pl (to super saiyan)
Goten: 750,000
Trunks: 750,000
(they were the fastest to asend in the show)
Hp
Goten: 100
Trunks: 110
speed
Goten: 300
Trunks: 280
Attacks Gianed
Goten
5-Charge: Goten stays in place and you aim and when you let go, he does a mad dash at the enemy and hits them hard takes about 1/2 of ki
Trunks
5-(unamed really >_< ) from broly second coming a extremly fast charging, low ki cost weak yellow blast
Fusion anytime 0% chance of random to 100%
it depends on cf bar when its full its 100% (no chance of random arrow)
you have a 5 minute time limit and a 3 minute cooldown
Both
6- Double Kamehameha: Goten and Trunks both do a team Kamehameha (cant move while charging)
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Gotenks
HP: 120
Speed: 280
attacks
for adv melee he could have the wacky moves for more damage(dynamite kick wild boar ram etc)
4-Kamehameha
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Super Saiyan Gotenks
pl required: REALLY EASY(because of time limit)
hp: 130
Speed: 330
attacks gained
5-Cosmic Halo: Galactic doughnut in budoki, it could trap your foe for a small time and do some good damage. hi ki cost
6-Kamakazie Ghost Attack: spit out 2-7 ghosts and they go after a target on their own. Hi ki cost
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Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks
pl requirement: not to hard
hp: 140
Speed: 370 ( may be changed to make him fastest or tied with krillin)
attacks gained
2-Continuous Die Die Missile: sort of like vegeta's ryuken or whatever its called, except less ki cost O.O
7-Victory Canon: Like mouthblast, just yellow.
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still with a little help from krazy killa nd davidskiwan
There i edited it with fusion info and ss3 Gotenk's speed

 

[ZeroNightmare]

i dont get why you have to make this so complicated.

arrows = *****load of coding

fat/skinny/whatever gotenks = skinning animating modeling x3

2 models, goten trunks, 3 models gotenks, ss gotenks, ss3 gotenks,

thats 5 models the simplest way.
Thats 5 skins. Thats alot of animating!

Look at Tien... it didnt take too long to get most of it done, but no1 wants to animate it. And thats just one model...

 

[Saiyan Knight]

ok i guess no arrows and fat skinny guy but actually we need 4 models of goten and trunks (2 for super saiyan)

 

[Skiwan]

i dont get why you have to make this so complicated.

arrows = *****load of coding

fat/skinny/whatever gotenks = skinning animating modeling x3

2 models, goten trunks, 3 models gotenks, ss gotenks, ss3 gotenks,

thats 5 models the simplest way.
Thats 5 skins. Thats alot of animating!

Look at Tien... it didnt take too long to get most of it done, but no1 wants to animate it. And thats just one model...

arrows arent that much coding, wud be sorta like copy and paste -_-

models could be edited easily, it'll take more time to skin them, but that shouldnt be any problem as we have a community FULL of modelers/skinners

scince they are all the same size, you can use the same skelenton, so its the same amount of animating.

 

[Saiyan Knight]

whoa thanks to david for clearing that up

 

[ZeroNightmare]

its still extra work.

look at tien.. they only need one thing... and nothings getting done.

 

[Saiyan Knight]

Tien will be done. This is where the WHOLE cummuinuty will pitch in. We need to find animators to participate in making tien. besides, by the time tien is finished we will have the names of some animators. But modelers and skinners the forum is full of them.

 

[Skiwan]

its still extra work.

look at tien.. they only need one thing... and nothings getting done.

yeah one thing, animators, do you know how many animations are needed? over 200, and a single animation can take an animator up to an hour. Its not like nobody's trying.

besides, its not very much extra work, just need to rig the skelenton to 2 other models

 

[ZeroNightmare]

whatever.

about the ghost kamikaze...
would we use models or sprites?

 

[Delusional]

Sprites, definatly...new models would take too much time, and probably cause lag

 

[ZeroNightmare]

not unless your computers a rock.

 

[Saiyan Knight]

kamakazie ghost attack will probably look like kame torpedos(although not used in the same way)

 

[RampsKill]

Wouldnt it be alot more simple if u just made gotenks like they did in budokia (mind the spelling) make ur char. either gotan or trunks befor u fuse then after u fuse its just like another char.

and if u insist on a budy sytem map it after the ice climers in SSBM

as for attacks his genaric beam can be maped after any other char. with a beam simaler to his and his other attacks r uniqish so new sprites would need to be made...

im new to this game but i kno the show and i kno prgraming and 3++ script language
i mite could help but im normaly much 2 lazy lol

 

[Saiyan Knight]

its been argued and voted over and decided that there will be Giten and Trunks buddy system.... ah, just read my character guide on one of these pages

 

[ZeroNightmare]

just read my first post... i update it when theres something usefull.

 

[Herms]

wow maby i shouldnt have neglected to read this its kinda funny (flamers)

but let me put in my input and see what you think

trunks and goten should have the ability to go ssj as soon as you start the game and you should beable to fuse as normal goten trunks (which can go ssj ssj3) or ssj trunks and goten (which can go ssj3) (dunno why i explained the stuff in brackets)

also gotenks could go ssj as soon as he got fusion

if in dbz reality ssj is multiplyer of 2 metimari fusion whould be a multiplyer of 3 then ssj whould be 2x and ssj3 whould be 4x form ssj (this is what it whould technicly be) thats like 24x his base (just goes to show you how strong super buu is) where as ssj3 goku is multiplyed by 8 (allthough goku could beat goten and trunks ssj in his normal form (after having the ability to go ssj3))

it's 30 minutes for fusion and an hour cool down so to be dbz realistic you need cool down time double of fusion

and the cool down time is very usefull beause it lets you get ssj3 faster when you are fused

now take my info and do what you will with it

 

[VeGeTTo]

for the best exploration kamikaza ghosts shoud me mdls BUT use the transparentzial effect like when U start and they should have sohe functions I hav a ideea ( how about making it like Ginecoide in evm Buu ultimate trans special 1) that really sounds like kkze ghosts to me :| i like gotenkz but ain't knowing abou buddysistem we should count that chibi trunkz is powerfull than Goten ..........(Bleah!!!)

 

[Saiyan Knight]

ok herms, if esf was in dbz reality, it would suck
and about kamakazie ghosts i think it should just be like scattering beam because genocide is WAY too good