the big 1.3 idea tread

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I'm kinda late on this..... but Andriod 17 and 18 are musts! COME ON, They rock! 17 could transform into Hellfighter or even Super 17! They have a variety of moves and play a major part in the series. Plus, #17 is my...... favorite character. Yes, they sould both be in 1.3!
 
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Broken Limbs
After seeing 1.2 in action I got thinking, they could incorperate broken limbs.
How I see it working is only one broken limb at a time, make an model with broken limbs animation sets.
They should be only caused by a Violent melee strike like if the player is at %30 health or lower when struck by basic melee and shunted across the map or in Av. melee when a strong hit is used as the last move and the player is yet again shunted across the map the players arm/leg could be broken or perhapts even ribs causing the charater to hunch over holding his ribs when idle. It would be dificult to make a new animation set using just one arm but you could just make it alter the players idle stance so it looks like it has take alot out of him


Melee Ki combo for vegeta
First of all make vegeta a new move, the idea behind this one is he will start auto punching you like Av. melee, then at the end boot you in a direction followed by 10 ki blasts in the direction of where you kicked/punched them, each ball would do 1 damage and cause no ki blob.
To balance this make it a chargeable attack that toggles once is charged, so once you charge it, The attack will idle so long as you have it selected then once you reach the other character he will go into auto punch sequence, if you are hit while trying to perform this attack or change attack you will loose all the Ki you invested into this attack.


Trunks Sword Combo
Alot of people would like to see trunks use his sword more and I think it would be cool in moderation.
When trunks turns SSJ he should gain an attack which is Av. melee only all the animations are him using his sword, it will do the same damage essentially but the alternate attack instead of throwing a character it should do a massive slice combination then a massive energy blast to finish the player off.
To balance this make it only a 5% chance to fatally kill a player then other times just have it do a bit of damage like 10% or something.

Vegeta's Rapid firing Ki blasts
First loose the ones that were in 1.2, they are impossible to hit anything flying towards you because they arch outwards.
This new rapid ki blast would keep firing at the same rate as his charged ki blasts at the moment.
Make it 30 blasts for all of your Ki, no charge player determins when to stop and start.
And the Secondary attack should be a charged version that takes half of your ki for 15 balls and give it the same charge time as the current one.

The Kaio Ken attack
I have been here and seen all the rants about "Add kaio ken" and I think I have an idea that could implement it into the game if you really wanted, I think it would be cool because it was one of Goku's key moves for ages.
Give goku a red aura and make him yell kaio ken when he turns turbo on, make it a good multiplyer like 2x his current power or something.
Or have it as a selectable attack, It gives you a red aura and increases your speed by 40% when used, Also make it primary fire to activate and secondary to turn it off and for an added effect make it so you are able to use melee while in kaio ken so not only primary and secondary to control your speed and aura but on contact make you auto punch, and make the melee throw a elaberate combo.
Just increase his PL by the same amount as his turbo aura to keep it balanced.

Remove Galac gun when vegeta is super sayin

Frieza's Telekenisis
Primary fire keep it the same, secondary fire make it a big mofo rock that is 20x the size of your character give it the same charge time as the spirit bomb and when someone blocks it make it explode or crumble

Cells Absorbsion
Make it a selectable attack
Primary is Av. melee
Secondary instead of melee throw make it a grapple, if they loose the struggle cell stabs you in the neak with his tail and drains your health and replenishes his KI, only drain 10 health tho so it is not overkill

Buu Absorbsion
Similar to my concept of cell absorbsion
Except a player can only be absorbed if on 20% health, when absorbed it will increase your PL

Alternate Buu Absorbsion
If you thought the top one was lame make it a selectable attack and when you fire off you pink goo that is like alien playdoh it reduces your powerlevel and health till you die, It tracks targets really smartly and is almost impossible to get away from.
When a player is captured you struggle with it, Determined by your power level if you win you go free and Buu is really weak, if you loose you can then be absorbed and Buu gets a higher powerlevel.

Majin Vegeta energy grapple
It will be a selectable attack and when fired it will track a target down and pin him/her to the nearest wall/ground and not the sky !
make it charge for a long time and when a player blocks make him bat it away so it can be dismissed easyly but if caught off guard you get pinned.
So now you have pinned them to a wall now what, you should be able to fly towards him/her and auto punch them while they are pinned.
This autopunch however is included in this move and can only be unleashed on a pinned player, so while this move is still selected and the player is pinned fly at them and autopunch.
Make it a vegeta like attack so he flys at them, punches them in the gutt slaps their face a few times then another punch in the gutt.

Vegeta's Death Beams
A charged attack that can be semi controlled, he fires 6-9 beams from both hands that are not attached to vegeta directly.
So they are semi controlled like the friez disc
They will be fired really fast and move really fast like the little ki balls, their ki trails will disapate slowly while their beams are active.
Their charge rate and ki consuption should be the same as vegeta's origonal ki ball's charge that was in 1.1
 
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+ tranformations
+ attacks
+ animations for the adv. meele
+ fusion basicly player 1 and 2 fuse to make 2 gotenks for player 1 and 2
 
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dude ! how many people read the sticky thread in here, no fusions man.
Sorry to get yah hopes up.
 
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have allready fused guys like in the seletion screen gotenks or gogeta or vegito that r allready fused and ready 2 fight MUHAHAHA
 
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Deus_Drone said:
Broken Limbs
After seeing 1.2 in action I got thinking, they could incorperate broken limbs.
How I see it working is only one broken limb at a time, make an model with broken limbs animation sets.
They should be only caused by a Violent melee strike like if the player is at %30 health or lower when struck by basic melee and shunted across the map or in Av. melee when a strong hit is used as the last move and the player is yet again shunted across the map the players arm/leg could be broken or perhapts even ribs causing the charater to hunch over holding his ribs when idle. It would be dificult to make a new animation set using just one arm but you could just make it alter the players idle stance so it looks like it has take alot out of him
Heh yeah that'd be fun. Maybe by breaking someones arm or leg they can't use it in advanced melee (making them have less combos :) )

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Frieza's Telekenisis
Primary fire keep it the same, secondary fire make it a big mofo rock that is 20x the size of your character give it the same charge time as the spirit bomb and when someone blocks it make it explode or crumble

I agree even more splash damage area would be better for the rock attack.
Either that or rocks that explode when hit by beams,cancelling the beam out.


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Cells Absorbsion
Make it a selectable attack
Primary is Av. melee
Secondary instead of melee throw make it a grapple, if they loose the struggle cell stabs you in the neak with his tail and drains your health and replenishes his KI, only drain 10 health tho so it is not overkill
Yeah cell could do with this extra move. (one of his own!) It'd probably be better of being a special combo...buu's candy beam would too imo.

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Alternate Buu Absorbsion
If you thought the top one was lame make it a selectable attack and when you fire off you pink goo that is like alien playdoh it reduces your powerlevel and health till you die, It tracks targets really smartly and is almost impossible to get away from.
When a player is captured you struggle with it, Determined by your power level if you win you go free and Buu is really weak, if you loose you can then be absorbed and Buu gets a higher powerlevel.
I think the team was actually planning to add that in the same way.

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Vegeta's Death Beams
A charged attack that can be semi controlled, he fires 6-9 beams from both hands that are not attached to vegeta directly.
So they are semi controlled like the friez disc
They will be fired really fast and move really fast like the little ki balls, their ki trails will disapate slowly while their beams are active.
Their charge rate and ki consuption should be the same as vegeta's origonal ki ball's charge that was in 1.1
lol ok i think your getting a bit too carried away with Vegeta now :p
 
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For the broken limb thing maybe if they broke your legs you move slower and if they break your arms your attack power and beams are weaker.

And for the Majin Vegeta energy grapple, maybe it would only work if you melee some1 into the wall? Like if you use the 1.1 melee and they hit the wall, they'll stay on the wall for a few seconds then you can change to that attack and pin them there and do an advanced melee? Or if they're pinned to the ground you just... jump... on... them... *imagines vegeta jumping on fat buu*

And maybe one of tiens combo could be multiform, where he splits into 4 and fights that one guy (only make the attacks weaker, so 4 punches in multiform = 1 normal punch) (multiform would only work during advance melee and not outside of it). Thats bout all i can think of...
 
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Optimus Primal said:
why stick? :) no idea why it should get a stickey...

Anyway...i think that bfp map cellterra...was perfect for bfp cuz flying or swooping didnt took that much energy...huge maps for esf wouldnt be that fun cuz that would make ppl charge 3 times to cross the map.
i c what u mean , i was playying 1.2 on the old 1.1 cell maps , there quiet big , but on 1.1 they seemed 2 b like small maps
 
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Optimus Primal said:
why stick? :) no idea why it should get a stickey...
why stick this at all? theres no idea in here that isnt in the sticky at all

i see add kaio ken, add fusion, add everything thats said in the stick



people instead of making topic after topic thats "MY GREAT ESF IDEA" read the stick

take the 2 minutes out of ur busy time frame of posting on esf and read the sticky

theres only 1

the team doesnt need to hear

make some transformations
or totaly generic stuff like that it just doesnt help and spams up the rest of the forum and bumps off potentaly good ideas with topics about "Why my fusion idea is differnt from the 50 others posted"
 

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