Super dbz D:

[Promiscuous Girl]

I hope the english version has the kanji for the sound effects, i dont care if i cant read em, they look so damn cool!

It really looks awesome... Im really looking forward to this game, just a pity there's no kid goku

btw soul punisher, i dunno where u got your information on the story mode stuff, but the interview with the producers I saw said they're trying to make the story mode very unique... and based on the manga. but this was a while ago that I saw that.

^_^ Well, you might be right David-- but from what i read a few times, there was said to only be an Arcade Mode. I never read anything about Story Mode being in the game myself. I guess we will have to wait and see then.

Anyway's forgot 3 images-- i dont know about you guys, but i see a pattern here. I'll put them in order.

Also, i dont know how, but some newbie manage to get the game before alot of other people-- he seems to be improving quickly as well. You can check out his latest video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDhkjLufv5c

 

[Ravendust]

I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for this, but after seeing that last gameplay video i've got to go out on a limb...

This game looks dissapointing. The graphics, specifically the in-game energy attacks, looks like they were taken from the PlayStation game 'Dragon Ball: Final Bout'. The character models look fuzzy and bland, not up to Budokai standards. The combat looks stodgy, even if that was the player being crap, most beat-em-ups have a simple, easy combat system. It looked less fun than B3, people in this thread say how it's keeping to the manga, well I don't remember Chi-chi fighting anyone in DBZ in the manga. It definately didn't rub me the right way, and I have no idea where all this positive praise is coming from =\

/hides beneath flame-proof/dong-proof shield.

 

[Skiwan]

... okay, that was a guy playing it through on the easiest setting the first time through, it was fairly obvious to me. Did you watch any of the millions of previous video's D:

http://spdbz.jp/special/movie.html watch goku vs 18 (be sure to watch the ones on the left hand side too) some of those air combo's and sidestep - dash moves are amazing. Imo the graphics look alot better than budokai tbh (except for the beams but, the way they are in this, i still kinda like em), i like the models more, they're more accurate to toriyama's current drawing style - http://www.daizex.com/multimedia/manga/ read the neko majin Z and you'll see what i mean. The budokai series models suffered from a servere lack of style identity, looks like they hired artists to redo every character all in one style to make it more uniform but I think it messed up some characters. I like the bland colours, gives the game a lot of style imo, they're all really nicely matched (im not too keen on the hud though).

If you'd forgotten, the first time you see chi chi she's fighting a dinosaur, she slices its head off with her hat then vapourises it with a beam. She's also daughter of the ox king who's an ex student of kame sennin so, assuming she was trained by her dad she'd be pretty strong. Plus she's been given that fan thing that kame lost so he cudnt put out mt frying pan and had to use kamehameha. She also fought goku in the 23rd martial arts tornament.

 

[Promiscuous Girl]

I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for this, but after seeing that last gameplay video i've got to go out on a limb...

This game looks dissapointing. The graphics, specifically the in-game energy attacks, looks like they were taken from the PlayStation game 'Dragon Ball: Final Bout'. The character models look fuzzy and bland, not up to Budokai standards. The combat looks stodgy, even if that was the player being crap, most beat-em-ups have a simple, easy combat system. It looked less fun than B3, people in this thread say how it's keeping to the manga, well I don't remember Chi-chi fighting anyone in DBZ in the manga. It definately didn't rub me the right way, and I have no idea where all this positive praise is coming from =\

/hides beneath flame-proof/dong-proof shield.

" Gasp " aww Ravey no likey it ? ^^ I don't understand where this indiscreetness is coming from exactly. I think it's pretty clear that the energy attacks rival that of Dragonball Z Budokai 2-- trust me, take it from someone who played Dragonball GT Final Bout for hours on end just because she adored the build up mode, it doesn't look anything like the energy attacks found in that game. As for the character models, they look rather good considering the style of graphics they were aiming for to begin with-- just as good as the Naruto Series on the PS2 Manga based character models-- definitely satisfying enough. And i know you just didn't call the combat system stodgy and less appealing then Dragonball Z Budokai 3's combat system ?

 

[Ravendust]

If you'd forgotten, the first time you see chi chi she's fighting a dinosaur, she slices its head off with her hat then vapourises it with a beam.

That was when she was a kid, and due to her helmet, not her own abilities. She's an adult in this game and doesn't have that costume.

She's also daughter of the ox king who's an ex student of kame sennin so, assuming she was trained by her dad she'd be pretty strong.

It's a game, the series strength isn't an issue. I know she was strong enough to get past the preliminaries of the Martial Arts Tournament.

Plus she's been given that fan thing that kame lost so he cudnt put out mt frying pan and had to use kamehameha.

She never got the Bansho-sen. The first time, Roshi lost it, the second time (non-canon), Goku got it, Chi-chi was just with him at the time.

If they're including Adult Chi-chi then she'll get one fight in Story-Mode, and Piccolo Daimao probably won't get any (no Kid Goku...). I think it's a travesty that they're adding her over Tien - who saw much more action in both DB and Z.

 

[Babyboy]

why are you guys jumping on someone elses opinion :S

 

[Skiwan]

That was when she was a kid, and due to her helmet, not her own abilities. She's an adult in this game and doesn't have that costume.

It's a game, the series strength isn't an issue. I know she was strong enough to get past the preliminaries of the Martial Arts Tournament.

She never got the Bansho-sen. The first time, Roshi lost it, the second time (non-canon), Goku got it, Chi-chi was just with him at the time.

If they're including Adult Chi-chi then she'll get one fight in Story-Mode, and Piccolo Daimao probably won't get any (no Kid Goku...). I think it's a travesty that they're adding her over Tien - who saw much more action in both DB and Z.

Well, i was just trying to illustrate why it wudnt be so rediculous to include her. Frieza didnt have a huge ****ing cannon on his back, but in this he does, and its designed by toriyama himself, not to mention trunk's lightsaber, and gohan having 2 swords. I was just saying what they've given her to make her more interesting, and i dunno about you but some of my fav gameplay video's are the ones with chi chi in. The point of including chi chi is because she's never been in a dbz game before. I agree it wudda been good to see tien in this though... but with the way it looks like its going to work, i dont think i'll miss him.

 

[tolore]

The combat looks stodgy, even if that was the player being crap, most beat-em-ups have a simple, easy combat system

most beat em ups(unless you have thsoe as a different category than fighting games) do NOT have an easy simple combat system at all. thats why people can spedn years and years playign them and still be discovering new strategies and ways to play their character. This game has shown more depth in fighting system in 2 minutes of clip than the entire budokai series has(again not the video you are referring to, but look at some of the ones shown earlier)

why are you guys jumping on someone elses opinion

why does everyone assume when we disagree with someone we are jumping on their opinion. Raven can think wahtever he wants, its not like we said he was wrong, just that we disagree(well except the bit about beat em ups having simple easy fighting systems, i do think he's wrong on that ).

 

[Vegeta]

I've always seen this particular Dragon Ball Z game as somewhat of a slow & boring version of Budokai 3, with some upgrades in texture. Personally, I doubt this game will be any fun, though I may just buy it... to be disapointed again. Thanks for those images, David. I like the Vegeta image on the training menu, I'd buy for sure if you can use that outfit in battle.

 

[Ravendust]

To be fair, that 'stodgy combat' comment was made before I saw the Goku vs. #18 video, it was based on the YouTube vid. However, I still stand by it to an extent.

With Budokai 3, there were hundreds of combos to be made by mixing up punches and kicks, even the noobiest of noobs could pull off a 4-hit combo. However, as you got better at the game you could get to 8-9-hit combos, eventually rounding off when you become 'pro' and master 19-hit float juggle combos.

Where am I going with this? The combat simply doesn't look as fluid nor forgiving. After seeing the #18 video it's clear that it can be with practice, but I can say that about Budokai 3, or any beat-em-up. With less characters and watered-down graphics (both characters and energy attacks), I don't see what makes Super Dragon Ball Z any better than B3. Maybe it'll be good, I hope i'm wrong, but currently BT2 looks much more impressive.

why are you guys jumping on someone elses opinion

As long as they explain why they dissagree and don't flame me in the process then it doesn't bother me if they do. If, however, someone just says 'your oppinion sux cuz its wrong' then i'll attack their weak-point for massive damage.

And i know you just didn't call the combat system stodgy and less appealing then Dragonball Z Budokai 3's combat system ?

I missed your post last time...and I just compared it to B3 again

*pouts*

 

[KidMan]

Frieza didnt have a huge ****ing cannon on his back, but in this he does, and its designed by toriyama himself, not to mention trunk's lightsaber, and gohan having 2 swords.

Wow, they destroyed DBZ. I don't think I am going to play it now, considering they added in retarded stuff. I was ok witht he Cannon thing, but now they incorperated Star Wars into DBZ, I don't want to play. I wouldn't be surprised if the voice of Yoda did master Roshi's voice.

 

[Skiwan]

Where am I going with this? The combat simply doesn't look as fluid nor forgiving. After seeing the #18 video it's clear that it can be with practice, but I can say that about Budokai 3, or any beat-em-up. With less characters and watered-down graphics (both characters and energy attacks), I don't see what makes Super Dragon Ball Z any better than B3. Maybe it'll be good, I hope i'm wrong, but currently BT2 looks much more impressive.

If you read some of the reviews of the game (http://www.gamedaily.com/animegames/features/?gameid=5171&id=312&t=preview), it says its exactly that, this game is a very hard to get good at in comparison to the budokai series. I'll quote from the review -

Playing a few matches of Super DBZ, it quickly became clear that this game far exceeds anything the Budokai series has ever done in terms of gameplay depth. No longer will players will able to mash away at the buttons and pull off wins against their friends. In fact, in our feeble attempts to mash out some combos, we could hardly do anything more than a two or three hit combo. Even the Atari representative who had been playing the game for some time was not able to pull off the advanced ground and air combos that the Japanese arcade players have mastered.

Is this not what everyone's been crying out for? (I have been observing every thread about a budokai game in the past 3 years here) I agree that some of the attacks look a little strange, but everything else in this game looks beautiful... The scale isnt exactly what i'd like to be, so neither was any of the budokai games. The movement in this really gives the feel of dbz though, to me anyway, they jump around and dodge exactly how i imagine it when reading the manga.

Btw kidboy, if the creator of dbz is happy to design it (he actually came up with the idea's), then there's nothing wrong with it imo, specially cuz if you've ever read the dragonball manga, you'd see how random and mystical dbz really is. What i think is rediculous is the whole of dbgt, now that was outrageous.

 

[Jesus]

that youtube vid with the kid playing, is funny.

its immediately apparent that he is a one trick poney, who loves easy mode.

if this game is anything like the SF series, which i strongly believe it will be; we can count on some UBER fights, on anything above medium difficulty.

 

[Adaptus]

As deep as the fighting mechanics may be, IMO the characters look kind of stupid and rigid, the way they move around. It's a majore turn-off for me. =/ The animations don't appear very lifelike to me. Budokai's are better, IMO.

 

[Promiscuous Girl]

I suppose this new video he uploaded confirms it-- their are infact, in-game finishers, and im rather impressed. You guys might want to check it out, it looked intense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tY9xvZICKg

 

[Babyboy]

holy **** :shocked: nice:yes:

 

[J-Dude]

I've got to say, this game looks pretty bad. Its trying to recreate the success of the orginal Budokai games, but this simply can't. The very feel of the environment and the world is cramped and fake. The attacks are cheezy. I have to say this looks like DBZ Paper Mario as far as graphics are concerned. The camera angles are too far away and the attacks have very little charisma. Sure the SS2 Gohan Kamehameha was pretty decent in magnitude, but the death ball Frieza threw just disappeared after ending. This game's effects are nothing but sprites, there is little if any volumetrics present, lighting sucks and frankly the gameplay is too tiny. More room needs to be allowed for real fighting. AND there needs to be strict restrictions on how far away you need to do to fire an ultimate move (death ball was WAY too close) or at least create splash damage.

This game seems too health oriented. Ultimate moves need more flare and higher damage, and player speed also needs a lot of work.

This game might be fine for a PSP, but even still, I'd MUCH rather play Shin Budokai on my PS2 than this game. At least Shin Budokai got it right.

 

[Babyboy]

Im going to have to agree with the people who posted earlier in this thread, the dbz video fanbase has issues, espically the b3 fanastics. all this fanbase does is whine and cry and a game comes along made by the creator of a legenadry title, and people actually have the nerve to say b1 b2 or b3 or bt and bt2 looks deeper when one 5 min video alone shows more depth then all of those games combined. this is just unbelivable if i may say so myself. the attacks look great as seen in that lastest video posted by soul and it just looks like a solid dbz title for once. but all the shunnin make me realize why making dbz games are so pointless because the fanbase doesnt know whatt hey want.. :S

 

[Skiwan]

I've got to say, this game looks pretty bad. Its trying to recreate the success of the orginal Budokai games, but this simply can't. The very feel of the environment and the world is cramped and fake. The attacks are cheezy. I have to say this looks like DBZ Paper Mario as far as graphics are concerned. The camera angles are too far away and the attacks have very little charisma. Sure the SS2 Gohan Kamehameha was pretty decent in magnitude, but the death ball Frieza threw just disappeared after ending. This game's effects are nothing but sprites, there is little if any volumetrics present, lighting sucks and frankly the gameplay is too tiny. More room needs to be allowed for real fighting. AND there needs to be strict restrictions on how far away you need to do to fire an ultimate move (death ball was WAY too close) or at least create splash damage.

This game seems too health oriented. Ultimate moves need more flare and higher damage, and player speed also needs a lot of work.

This game might be fine for a PSP, but even still, I'd MUCH rather play Shin Budokai on my PS2 than this game. At least Shin Budokai got it right.

hehe, you obviously didnt know there's been 1 ultimate move shown so far, and that was the cell blowing gohan into the sky move. Everything else you've seen are like hadokens in streetfighter, (but for the first time in an official dbz game you can charge these ones). You're also very wrong about the sprites, there arent many sprites from what i saw, it was nearly all models. I've got a lot of faith in this game, I've seen pretty much every video I could of this game, some fights do look stodgy and awkward, others look amazingly fluid, and have some really spectacular combo's. Seeming as the guy who made streetfighter 2 is making this... well lets just say ive already had to change my boxers.

btw... am i the only person who thinks the graphics are way better than budokai? except from ki attacks, i think the game is so much better cell shaded than tenkaichi, or tenkachi 2

 

[Mogwai]

Graphic wise if you compare this to tenkiachi 2 you are a numbskull lol.

Gameplaywise, yea it maybe made by the person who did SF2 however, you can't expect it to be as good as SF.

Some of the fights look really good, but honestly, iv seen each char have 2 combo links, then its just the same combo over and over again, seems alot like tenkaichi however linking in the super move just with combo notices its the same game as budokai lol.

Also it seems frieza will be pretty cheesy his ball throw is something we have wanted for a long time, but watch the videos u can catch them with it to easily, it also seems there is no way to escape the throws which is can see being whored in the future.

Only time will tell i suppose, ill buy it either way i buy all the dbz game heh.