Poor UT3 / Crisis

[Avenger]

I'll take something innovative, new and entertaining any day over something pretty. I suppose a lot of people choose pretty.

 

[Spunky]

As I said before, I'm playing the game on high. There's nothing spectacular about it. It's far cry with a suit. Instead of mutated apes, we have aliens. Hooray. The story was mediocre at best, the only "innovative" thing I can say about the game play is it's nice to throw people and watch shacks explode, and while the graphics are nice, it isn't enough to make me forget about everything else. It's an average game with pretty colors. I really don't understand how people can say the game is revolutionary when it really does absolutely nothing new other than exist on a new engine.

That's your opinion. You don't like it. That doesn't mean the game sucks. It just means it isn't your kind of game. At no point did I state that it introduces anything new (even though it's introduced a ****load of new things, both graphics-wise and gameplay-wise, even if most of it is graphical). I said it had everything a good shooter should have. Sick explosions, nice graphics, an immersive story and gameplay, and of course, a nice variety of weaponry and vehicles. It has all of that with whipped cream and a cherry on top. It's exactly the kind of game I love.

<3 blowing up buildings and helicopters.

 

[Avenger]

Yes, Spunky, and I'm fairly sure you've loved every single game like it before it too (no less, either, except perhaps in the graphics-department) - some of us are pickier, and grow tired of worn-out game concepts. We demand something new. :/

 

[J-Dude]

I'm fine with games improving their graphical standards, mainly because my PC has handled everything I've ever thrown at it on max-settings, but I agree at some point you haver to think of the littler guys.

While it's great to have graphics available that the people with the bigger and fancier builds are beefy enough to enjoy, you also don't want to force people to pay hundreds of dollars to upgrade.

This is where I think game developers can take a hint from EVE Online. In this example, EVE is a game that's been out for years, and it's graphics, while decent, have been far surpassed in quality in recent years. EVE is a game that constantly updates and releases free content expansions every year or so. The latest expansion they've come out with is EVE Trinity, which finally, along with adding all sorts of new gameplay features, brings the graphics of the game into standards of today's gaming, which requires you to have no less than one monster of a computer to handle.

Now, the developers could have just said, "if you can't handle these new graphics by now, piss off and play solitare", but instead of forcing everyone to comply, they made the "premium content" for the graphical expansions optional. In fact, they made it a seperate download from the Trinity client altogether, allowing the default to be for the game to use the classic graphics while still retaining all the new gameplay advances. Therefore, the bigger fancier machines could let their dual core processers churn to their heart's content, and the people who couldn't afford these luxuries still get to play the game with the content their familiar with.

This of course, instead of demanding a PC upgrade, offers it as a friendly suggestion. "You don't HAVE to comply to the new premium graphics, but if you ever want to experience the very best, it's always here if you want it "

I can agree that most PCs that do gaming should at least be able to handle Half-Life 2 graphics easily, and it should be downright unecessary at this point to use graphics inferior to this, because even the most basic $400 computer nowadays should handle it. But I also agree that if all a new game offers is improved graphics and forces you to conform to their system requirements, then you shouldn't have even bothered making a whole new game. If the new UT game adds nothing new to gameplay, then why bother calling it a new game? Do what EVE Online did, sell it as UT2K4 graphical expansion, add new maps or whatever, include two discs int he box: one for the standard graphics edition, and one for the new graphics.

If developers did games this way, it would also prompt them to focus on gameplay AND graphics, because if you offer both old and new graphics in one, then people who use the old graphics are going to expect that you've made actual improvements and additions to how the game is played so they can enjoy some new stuff as well.

I'm kinda' ranting here, but I hope you can agree with me here.

 

[Zeonix]

Crysis rules. The only people complaining are those who can't play it, to whom I say too bad, buy a better PC and keep up with technology.

My response was directed at this part of your post. You're saying everyone who didn't like it wasn't able to play it. I said I was able to play it and I didn't like it. I'm not the exception to the rule, so your statement is clearly wrong. I say statement, because that is hardly the way to state one's opinion. Also notice that I said that I can't believe people can say Crysis is revolutionary. Considering you are but a single person, that statement wasn't singling you out but addressing many of the opinions I've read regarding the game.

 

[Adaptus]

I'm well aware that Crysis isn't all it's cracked up to be, but I've never thoroughly experienced Far Cry, so the gameplay that Crysis offers is in small ways new to me. I've also loved playing around with the Nano Suit.

I think I'll pick it up once the price drops down a bit.

 

[+HottsaucE@+]

im better gaming on a computer but atleast with a console
your vsing somebody with the same console as with the pc
your most like vsing somebody with a computer who upgrades their pc every week(example)

 

[Spunky]

your most like vsing somebody with a computer who upgrades their pc every week(example)

Nobody upgrades their PC every week. That's stupid. >_>

 

[Brosiris]

My friend bought me crysis, I love it. It's amazing. It's better then sex almost.

I love crysis. Love it. Infact, when I get back to my dorm I'm going to play more of it. And the replay value is amazing. I'll save a part of a leve, and redo it 15 different ways cuz it's different each time. It's hawt.

 

[Almighty_Gir]

people are under the impression that UT3 needs a supermachine to run, which is untrue. my dads 4 year old laptop runs it just fine.

i do, however, agree with phobius. kids who want to sit and play HL1 for the rest of their life, can do so. but if you want to play with the big boys, go get a job and a new machine.

 

[Synth]

I imagine these titles will sell more next year, if prices in PC hardware drop.

They have to compete with the console extravaganza that happened this Fall. (Halo 3, Assassin Creed, Mass Effect, etc)

As the cycle has gone... we all know the consoles will be living off sequels for awhile now

So, PCs can go back to considered being original and cutting edge to the majority. Not just the 80,000 hardcore people who had their machines rebuilt a week before a release.

 

[Pieter Paul Rubens]

I have a Mac and both games run fine set to highest settings.. Feel dirty now? (no DX10 obviously)

 

[Pemalite]

I don't know what you're worried about, Graphics isn't everything, a friend has an Athlon XP 2600+ Radeon 9600XT and 1gb of ram and got crysis running on low with smooth FPS.
Oblivion ran fine on Medium Quality Settings and if you use OldOblivion and play around with the .ini and Shaders you can actually get amazing results even on the Geforce FX 5200, or a Radeon 8500.
And Bioshock which uses the Unreal 3 Engine can run on the Radeon 9600XT by replacing some of the shaders, the engine is incredibly optimized and can also run on the 9600XT at medium quality settings.

A simple 12mb Voodoo 2, With no Pixel Shading or TnL (Pre-Geforce) Actually ran Doom 3, Heres a picture:

Seriously we are PC gamers, we live on the edge of cutting technology, if something doesnt run at a good frame rate, tweak the crapper out of you're system! or Upgrade! - Thats one of the finer points of PC's you can upgrade certain parts for either more performance or more functionality, For Instance if the Wii was like a PC you could add DVD drive, or a T.V Tuner card etc.

Some people think that upgrading is crap, a waste of money and what not, but thats what makes the market unique, and some people actually love upgrading for the hell of it.

Also were those sale numbers American Only?
If it is World Wide I would be truly shocked.

 

[TehMuffinMan]

just got UT3 today. the game runs horribly on any settings and when set to somewhat playable settings it looks worse than unreal 1. and its identical to to the previous games.. a slighty laggy and worse looking version of UT2K4... same weapons same vehicles same gameplay, wtb somthing new!. gathering dust on the shelf already after 4 hours.

 

[Zeonix]

I don't know what you're worried about, Graphics isn't everything, a friend has an Athlon XP 2600+ Radeon 9600XT and 1gb of ram and got crysis running on low with smooth FPS.
Oblivion ran fine on Medium Quality Settings and if you use OldOblivion and play around with the .ini and Shaders you can actually get amazing results even on the Geforce FX 5200, or a Radeon 8500.
And Bioshock which uses the Unreal 3 Engine can run on the Radeon 9600XT by replacing some of the shaders, the engine is incredibly optimized and can also run on the 9600XT at medium quality settings.

A simple 12mb Voodoo 2, With no Pixel Shading or TnL (Pre-Geforce) Actually ran Doom 3, Heres a picture:

Seriously we are PC gamers, we live on the edge of cutting technology, if something doesnt run at a good frame rate, tweak the crapper out of you're system! or Upgrade! - Thats one of the finer points of PC's you can upgrade certain parts for either more performance or more functionality, For Instance if the Wii was like a PC you could add DVD drive, or a T.V Tuner card etc.

Some people think that upgrading is crap, a waste of money and what not, but thats what makes the market unique, and some people actually love upgrading for the hell of it.

Also were those sale numbers American Only?
If it is World Wide I would be truly shocked.

Crysis on the lowest settings looks like Doom 2. Seriously. There's absolutely no point in buying the game and taking the time to install it if you can't run it on at least medium settings.

 

[TehMuffinMan]

you can -really- see the impact of this on UT3 online... 20 servers in total, 17 empty servers, 2 with 1 person in and 1 partially full server with 600 ping that i cant play due to it running like crap. defenatly the worst servercount ive seen in a retail MP game fullstop, no matter on release

 

[Sicron]

Wow, we have 'next gen' graphics! ...Now let's wait another 5 years before we get next gen gameplay.

 

[Arthos]

It's all been done. And it's all pointless and bad.

None of this matters anymore, and this thread reminds me of a particular gripe I have against a lot of you.

I won't say what that is, as that would be unprofessional.

 

[Renyori]

I don't know what you're worried about, Graphics isn't everything, a friend has an Athlon XP 2600+ Radeon 9600XT and 1gb of ram and got crysis running on low with smooth FPS.

Kinda hard to believe, i have a quad core, 3gb ram, ati radeon HD 2600 pro, and i couldnt even get medium quality to run perfectly smooth.

 

[SailorAlea]

I'm glad that there are games that push the limit. So-called "killer apps" like this push both Nvidia and ATI to make better and better cards, which makes games as a whole prettier for everyone.

If developers didn't push the limits of today's hardware, they wouldn't have any incentive to innovate in order to satisfy gamers' demand for it.
Eventually we're going to reach a point where the graphical hardware can't get any better, and what will then differentiate games between each other?

Gameplay. Art design. The progression of technology is a very good thing for the end-user.