New *Revised* Disk Idea

[Ultima2_freeze]

Why do i get the feeling SOME people haven't read a thing in here =/.

We are talking about the disk needing a boost... like the disk view* thats suggested... talking about how easy it is to dodge it and how useless it is... and you come out with "It should be blocked, its too powerful" ... aha P

 

[Magmus]

if this idea is implimented u give better controll of an already overpowered attack...

if u make it so u can block it if u have more power than is in the disk then mabey it will be ok but i dont see it happening

 

[Ultima2_freeze]

aight... again another one that aint hearing me =/.

Every decent player should know that the disk in 1.1 very useless... im just saying to add the option of a Disk View if you want... look...

The disk view wouldnt be some easy lil thing to control, it would be hard to kill someone in the view if you didn't practice with it, and the fact that your body is immobile in disk view only makes it used less by n00b spammers and more by the more skilled player.

Once again, its not just adding more control, unless your skilled and practice with the Disk View, it will be useless, so to be feared with the disk, you must practice and train with it... making all your kills with it more deserving.

 

[Magmus]

i did understand wat you posted

im merly stating that if u give the disk the deadliest weapon in the game a extra edge when it is already overpowered as it is

i understand that this may improve the way to handle the disk but i didnt download disk wars i downloaded esf so lets keep it the way it is and not cheapen this move even more

 

[Sentient]

Have to agree with Hibiki.. :yes:

The instance you throw that disc of yours, i'll teleport to the side, swoop at you and knock you into the nearest mountain.. :fight: Having a sort of redeemer function wouldn't work in this game..

I think they should make the disc faster and more mobile.. as it is now you can't really control the disc while in the freeza saga, freeza gives goku a REALLY hard time, following him everywhere with these discs..

:notice: If the disc could be controlled properly, you could also practice and improve your skills with it, and still see incoming attacks..

 

[Ultima2_freeze]

Im aware that an easy way to solve this problem would to give the disk(s) an advanced home* in feature... where you have to keep eye contact (look and highlight your opponent) for it to work, this could also allow for multiple disk(s) at later stages... but i just dont think it can create the kind of battles that the disk view can.





*EDIT* Here is another suggestion for the disk view..

-When you use the *disk view* its actually a small picture in picture. (like SDK spectator mode).

-When moving your mouse with the picture in picture disk view you control the disk, and when using your move buttons (keyboard) you move around and do the normal.

-This would require you to concentrate, to look at and control the disk view while also trying to evade incomming attacks with jumping, flying, (teleport(?) and whatever else you can usually use.

-This would keep it from people just running up and hitting you everytime you throw a disk in disk view...

 

[SuperSaiyan]

nice idea but i think that discs should also be able to be deflected or blocked if ur powerful enough but whiel trying to block discs it also takes a bit of hp because it will grind ur arms while blocking lol

 

[Wolf Devil]

It should be blockable, but only by someone that's got 3 times your own powerlevel.

I like your ideas, Ultima. Needs a bit of tweaking (like most good ideas), but I think there could be ways to implement your suggestions without making it unbalanced.

 

[Ultima2_freeze]

Here is a small outline of the idea so far.


- An option for a "Disk View" (A Small picture in picture).

- While in "Disk View" you use the mouse to control the Disk in the picture in picture, and use your movement keys to control yourself in the rest of your view.

- The "Disk View" would take practice to be feared with, so only a skilled player could effectively use it, as it should be. (An instant kill like a disk with an option for this much control should NOT be n00b friendly )

- Having the picture in picture would require you to practice, keeping an eye on your surroundings while you are controlling your disk.


*Note* Frieza for example when throwing the disks at goku did not run around charging up beams and shooting goku like crazy, since it took so much of his concentration controlling the disks he could only do basic movements (Left, right, forward, back, jump), which is where the option of a *Disk View* comes in, using the same idea of basic movement while controlling the disk.

 

[Sentient]

Now that i can see happening..

 

[Hibiki]

Here is a small outline of the idea so far.


- An option for a "Disk View" (A Small picture in picture).

- While in "Disk View" you use the mouse to control the Disk in the picture in picture, and use your movement keys to control yourself in the rest of your view.

- The "Disk View" would take practice to be feared with, so only a skilled player could effectively use it, as it should be. (An instant kill like a disk with an option for this much control should NOT be n00b friendly )

- Having the picture in picture would require you to practice, keeping an eye on your surroundings while you are controlling your disk.


*Note* Frieza for example when throwing the disks at goku did not run around charging up beams and shooting goku like crazy, since it took so much of his concentration controlling the disks he could only do basic movements (Left, right, forward, back, jump), which is where the option of a *Disk View* comes in, using the same idea of basic movement while controlling the disk.

this idea will never happen

because this has been thought of before and rejected because people could just sit in a corner of a map and spam disks out and whore kills which is something no one ever wants to have to have happen

 

[Wolf Devil]

That wouldn't happen if someone cared about my scouter idea :'(

 

[Ultima2_freeze]

Gah, Hibiki dude i expect more than you than that read up...

If given a cool down period* for the Disk View, say... 30 seconds or so it would prevent people from constantly hiding and throwing the disks. Besides the fact that you have a scouter.

And if that doesn't suit you, what about this.

- A Disk can only actually be thrown once you look* at your opponent (Highlight). This would make it so the diskeer would have to see the enemy before allowed to throw it, even further preventing people from throwing disks while hiding behind objects.



Also, you say 2 contridictary things (Gah spelling is a biatch at times )

1. With the disk view it would make it waaay to easy for someone to simply kill you while you are in the view.

2. It would make disks spammed because people could hide and navigate disks to opponents. Easily racking up kills.