Illegal Activity

[Heron]

This short clip shows about how some youths in the UK deal in drugs and how they operate, It passes on from one person to the next usually in an order of descending age. The british gangster dialect may make this very hard to understand. One must watch this to the end to find out why I would post this:

Warning: Some vulgar language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-aUt-3OJ8&feature=player_embedded





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[Hellion_Blade]

Did NOT expect the twist at the end. Thanks for showing that Heron.

 

[IFlip92]

Interesting point, but I don't think comparing books with crack is accurate at all. Mainly because books can't harm you physically nor mentally as a human being. Crack is illegal for your safety! Weed should be legalized as it is also meant to hurt your body, especially your brain if it becomes an xcessive habbit just like alcohol but the occasional weed is actually beneficial and removes cigarette tar from your lungs, relieves stress and makes you peaceful (never seen a violent stoned person), i know a bunch of people who need to smoke it to help them sleep etc. Alcohol does none of that.

 

[Prozac]

Marijuana removes tar from your lungs?

 

[Avenger]

Interesting point, but I don't think comparing books with crack is accurate at all.

You mean there's a difference between fine literature and fine crack?

Mainly because books can't harm you physically nor mentally as a human being.

[video=youtube;T60fljZNg5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T60fljZNg5I[/video]

I think it's clear from this video that books can harm you physically. As for mentally, have you ever tried reading quantum mechanics without a solid background in mathematics? That'll definitely hurt you mentally, whether you're a human being or not (I'm looking at you, Heron, reptilian scum of the Earth's core!).

Crack is illegal for your safety!

If that were true, then guns would be illegal for our safety too. They aren't. Restricted, yes, illegal, no. Crack is illegal because it is an addictive substance that does a lot of harm, but most importantly it's illegal because the government (rightly so) doesn't trust you to keep clear of it.

Weed should be legalized as it is also meant to hurt your body, especially your brain if it becomes an xcessive habbit just like alcohol but the occasional weed is actually beneficial and removes cigarette tar from your lungs, relieves stress and makes you peaceful (never seen a violent stoned person), i know a bunch of people who need to smoke it to help them sleep etc.

Weed doesn't "hurt" your brain "just like alcohol". Weed is an entirely different substance from alcohol. It's even inbibed differently. The two substances barely have anything in common at all.

I would like at least two peer reviewed studies that show that:

1. Smoking weed removes cigarette tar from your lungs (As if that weren't a feat in itself, how does it select cigarette tar from other tar?)
2. Smoking weed relieves stress better than taking a walk, having a few drinks in the pub with friends, or killing a hobo
3. Weed never induces a paradoxical effect in which subjects take on an active and violent behaviour
4. Weed is beneficial for good sleep

Alcohol does none of that.

Alcohol doesn't relieve stress? No one has ever used alcohol to help them sleep? And whereas I'm fairly sure alcohol doesn't remove tar from your lungs, I've also never seen anyone smoke ethanol...

Alcohol is beneficial for your heart for instance. By proxy, this increases your lifespan, as men are quite likely to die from heart-related events.

It can also save your life if you're poisoned by either ethylene glycol or methanol. I don't see any instance of weed saving someone from poisoning through sheer chemical awesomeness.

It's also an antitussant, which means it helps you not cough as much. Tell me, does weed help you stop coughing?

Alcohol also happens to be an artform, at least the destillation of fine spirits such as whisky, whiskey, vodka, rum, gin, and any form of strange grape-based liquor you may think of is. It has also brought rise to fine things such as cola -- it was only popularized through mixing the syrup with largely alcoholic drinks in bars.

So, while alcohol doesn't do all the things that weed does, it certainly does its share. Not to say alcohol is good for everything -- obviously things like overdose and fighting happens, but that's to be expected when there's such an abundant supply of the drug and such a lack of knowledge about how it should be imbibed.

Further, before you start mentioning alcohol and cars -- weed isn't really better than alcohol here, it's just that more people drink than smoke weed.

 

[hleV]

I drink 2 beers everytime before I go sleep.

 

[FalconFury]

Seriously. If you've posted a porn video that is showing nasty's things on it you'll be banned. Mastasurf wrote that rule for this forum protection.

 

[Heron]

Seriously. If you've posted a porn video that is showing nasty's things on it you'll be banned. Mastasurf wrote that rule for this forum protection.

Are you high?
Drunk?
On Crack?
Cocaine?

No, im watching porn...?

 

[Damaera]

I clicked this for the hot chicks in the thumbnail.

In all seriousness though, this was actually a pretty good video. Way better than the **** they show when they try to teach you at school. Acting was also superb.

 

[Grega]

First of all weed is illegal because its next to impossible for the government to cash in on it. Its called Weed for a reason. That thing will grow nearly everywhere. Secondly yes weed is just as bad when it comes to driving. Im also surprised no one mentioned the fact that weed is used to combat certain types of cancer.

Also Avenger not all alcohol is good for the heart. As well as some is better and some is worse. An example would be red wine. Certain brands of red wine are really good for your blood system, while others are not so good. None really harmful though, unless you go overboard. But even then its the liver that takes it.

That said i do agree with what you wrote entirely.

 

[Avenger]

Also Avenger not all alcohol is good for the heart. As well as some is better and some is worse. An example would be red wine. Certain brands of red wine are really good for your blood system, while others are not so good.

Please supply me with some delicious sources for these claims.

None really harmful though, unless you go overboard. But even then its the liver that takes it.

There are numerous bad effects that follow an alcohol overdose. Dehydration, in general, is not a great idea, nor is poisoning your own system with carcinogens as a result of the detox your body goes through. This is why drinking in moderation is key. As long as your body doesn't produce the dangerous derivatives of alcohol in large doses, you will be fine. Methanol is not particularly poisonous on its own, for instance -- it is its aldehyde counterpart that kills you (formaldehyde). Ethanol has the same thing, but with acetaldehyde (which is the main reason you get hung over when you drink -- your acetaldehyde dehydrogenase is lacking either in quantity or efficiency, and so it builds up, causing a form of aldehyde poisoning in your body).

This was so definitely not the topic of this thread, but hey, I like the direction in which we're taking it.

 

[IFlip92]

I personally don't find alcohol on its own to remove stress but it does postpone it till I sober up again. Alcohol combined with socialising does remove stress and can be used as a reason to start socialising. I don't think all alcoholic drinks should be taken as antitussants if you are ill, especially cold ones since it will make your throat worse and it will likely slow your body's immune system.

As for those heart studies, the sheer number of factors that could've played a role in those people's lives means that the results are probably of a low percentage of accuracy, not that I rule alcohol out of keeping you healthy since it does come from mostly natural xtracts so it must bring some benefits. However if not moderated than it can damage your health more than anything. Liver especially. It also tends to bring out the nasty side of people when they go overboard.

As for weed. I have 5 buddies who use it to combat insomnia as it puts them to sleep. Weed can also be prescribed medically and you could be allowed to grow it with a legal licence.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070527001131AAksU5v
http://www.mamas.org/Clinics.htm
As for the tar thing. That I just heard from some people and after searching around I haven't found anything to prove that so it's probably bogus.
I think weed is often compared to alcohol because of its brain impairement properties although the side effects are completely different, like with alcohol you get more violence while weed chills you out. And going by @Avenger's gun comparison, weed is also not illegal it is just restricted then. Oh and I also agree that driving under the influence of any drug is a big NO NO.

On-topic: I still think that books should not be compared to crack. While @Avenger has been nitpicking my posts as usual since I don't wanna write massive paragraphs with a catch-all in them, I am sure he gets the jist of what I am saying. Crack is harmful, books are not. Wether you choose the right literature for yourself or not is another matter.

 

[Avenger]

I don't think all alcoholic drinks should be taken as antitussants if you are ill, especially cold ones since it will make your throat worse and it will likely slow your body's immune system.

I never said an alcoholic "drink" was an antitussant, I said alcohol was used as an antitussant. Almost all cough medicine contains alcohol.

"Especially cold ones" -- Drinking a cold beverage will not cool your throat down enough for there to be any kind of significant impact, that's a stupid thing to say.

As for those heart studies, the sheer number of factors that could've played a role in those people's lives means that the results are probably of a low percentage of accuracy, not that I rule alcohol out of keeping you healthy since it does come from mostly natural xtracts so it must bring some benefits. However if not moderated than it can damage your health more than anything. Liver especially. It also tends to bring out the nasty side of people when they go overboard.

I showed you three different peer reviewed articles. You are not a scientist, you don't get to talk about factors. You didn't even read the god damned articles.

And I've only ever talked about drinking in moderation -- as did those articles.

As for weed. I have 5 buddies who use it to combat insomnia as it puts them to sleep. Weed can also be prescribed medically and you could be allowed to grow it with a legal licence.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...7001131AAksU5v
http://www.mamas.org/Clinics.htm

I asked for peer reviewed literature, you give me "five buddies who smoke weed and have insomnia", I'm sorry, you'll have to do better.

As for the tar thing. That I just heard from some people and after searching around I haven't found anything to prove that so it's probably bogus.

Maybe you should consider examining your own claims before making them.

I think weed is often compared to alcohol because of its brain impairement properties although the side effects are completely different, like with alcohol you get more violence while weed chills you out.

The violence involved with alcohol has to do with alcohol's amazing ability to reduce inhibitions. A violent person will be extra violent while drunk. A non-violent person will not be extra violent while drunk.

And going by @Avenger's gun comparison, weed is also not illegal it is just restricted then. Oh and I also agree that driving under the influence of any drug is a big NO NO.

That depends largely on which country you live in.

On-topic: I still think that books should not be compared to crack. While @Avenger has been nitpicking my posts as usual since I don't wanna write massive paragraphs with a catch-all in them, I am sure he gets the jist of what I am saying.

I get that you don't study up on anything you make claims about.

Crack is harmful, books are not.

I painstakingly searched YouTube to find you the video that clearly demonstrates that books are harmful physically. You didn't even watch it, did you? I think it's a four second video. You have that much time to see what a danger books are to society.