Having sex with a chick who used to be a dude is apparently cool

[sub]

Who forgets to mention that ****? It's intentionally not telling the partner because you want sex and fear that telling them will cause you to not get laid.

 

[DiebytheSword]

Who forgets to mention that ****? It's intentionally not telling the partner because you want sex and fear that telling them will cause you to not get laid.

I don't think it's just getting laid, I suspect many of them hold off for as long as possible on the act because it might be more about intimacy with the gender you want to be intimate with, not just getting your fantasies fulfilled. They probably worry that they're going to lose the relationship way before they worry about just getting laid.

 

[jp]

Hell yeah they should tell you, i got nothing against people who changed there sex, its their choice and i respect that.

But its only fair to inform their partner about such a thing, its a sign of trust, and i'd be pissed to find out that i have been going out with an ex-male and not knowing about

 

[Dokutayuu]

Who forgets to mention that ****? It's intentionally not telling the partner because you want sex and fear that telling them will cause you to not get laid.

From the rest of the sentence, you should have gathered that I wasn't using the word "forget" entirely seriously ^^. The exact same applies to being married. If you tell them, it could put them off.

Cuc brings up an interesting point about non-sexual relations, not wanting to be rejected or shunned must play a major role in the decision not to tell.

 

[DiebytheSword]

From the rest of the setence, you should have gathered that I wasn't using the word "forget" entirely seriously ^^. The exact same applies to being married. If you tell them, it could put them off.

Cuc brings up an interesting point about non-sexual relations, not wanting to be rejected or shunned must play a major role in the decision not to tell.

It may play a role indeed, but it still doesn't make it right.

 

[Dokutayuu]

It may play a role indeed, but it still doesn't make it right.

There's no reason that it would, but it's important to understand the situation they'd be in before condemning them. It's dishonest and misleading, yes, but deceiptful and an elaborate lie, not so much.

 

[Devion]

It really depends, if you just want to get laid with a total stranger, well this is what you can expect. In a serious relationship, it's very wrong. You can't withhold this kind of information and imply you are in a serious relationship.

For myself, this transgender has to be smoking hot and just for a one night stand it would be ok, although I don't prefer it ;x. But for a long term relationship, no. Not only mental issues come to mind, but also the inability to get your own children. That's the biggest deal breaker.

 

[macdaddymario]

Ya know, I see reasons for why it's wrong or right... but not why it's cool to do it, as per the topic title xD.

 

[vector]

look .... ill make this very simple. guys have xy chromosome and are born with testosterone actively being produced while in womb. that's what gives us our reproductive organs. there are cases where testosterone is blocked and that makes females, and those are called hermaphrodites (for example jamie lee curtis, perfectly female in every way) she has full female organs AND (this is the key part) SHE CAN REPRODUCE. only way you can procreate is if you have an X paired with another X or another Y (XX makes female, XY makes male) if her Y goes with another Y it makes YY which makes nothing .... it's just a wasted egg.

now you have these guys who are XY their whole life .... have had testosterone kicking in them since their conseption .... they have full male reproductive organs. if they get surgery to change all that stuff .... well guess what they still aint going to be able to have a baby. i know from most male standpoints here you guys are thinking of one night stands and such .... but in a real relationship some men DO want to have kids .... if you don't tell someone that you are a certain way you destroy their dreams .... what if they fall for you and care for you .... but now you slap em with the truth in the face.

honestly the point im trying to make is .... if its something like a one night stand .... then who gives a **** u dun have to tell anyone .... but if ur in any kind of relationship you should tell em .... cuz or else that's just kinda ****ed up. (you guys ever see nip tuck? i wouldnt think twice about layin Famke Janssen on her back .... but **** does get ****ed up in that show)

basically ua aint a woman if u used to be a man and can no longer reproduce .... (have no damn eggs) .... well that's my 2 cents

 

[DiebytheSword]

Vector, you know there are disorders where people can have the outward genitals of a male or female and actually be chromosomally the opposite? XX Males and XY Females exist. Terrible conditions to be sure, but it does happen.

Though I agree with you that being honest and upfront is critical in a relationship, doubly so when you used to be a different gender externally.

 

[DiebytheSword]

There's no reason that it would, but it's important to understand the situation they'd be in before condemning them. It's dishonest and misleading, yes, but deceiptful and an elaborate lie, not so much.

Actually, that's the very definition of deceitful.

 

[Dokutayuu]

Actually, that's the very definition of deceitful.

Touche, but I was trying to highlight the motives. It may be in order to prevent rejection or ridicule rather than to cheat their way into someone's pants. Although, there are definitely cases where the latter is the case.

Plus, it appears I've somehow disabled spellcheck. I didn't know how much I relied on it.

 

[Zeonix]

One's motives doesn't change the outcome, that being a web of lies that will do both parties more harm than good in the end.

 

[Zeonix]

Out of curiosity, what is it about a shemale that turns you on? Do you focus on the male aspects? Female aspects? Both? This is eventually going to enter centaur territory, but let's see where this goes.

 

[sub]

I know we're still only in January, and I also realize this is bad form considering I created this thread, but I'd like to officially nominate this thread for the decennial ESF Forum Thread of the year award show.

 

[Zeonix]

Fair enough. Do you prefer natural hermaphrodites or are men who undergo operations the same to you?

 

[sub]

In this thread, we see Zeo wondering if getting the surgery would convince Fort that Zeo is his man... or person, I guess.

 

[Zeonix]

In this thread, we see Zeo wondering if getting the surgery would convince Fort that Zeo is his man... or person, I guess.

I belong to Nixanthrael and no one else. Such is my blessing. Such is my curse.

 

[macdaddymario]

I'm still curious as to why it's cool.. and all I see is why it's right or wrong to tell someone.

 

[Zeonix]

Read the damn OP and stop focusing on the title. Goddamn.