Freeza Disk balancing being done?

[Damirith]

For the time that I have played ESF, I notice that there are two disk attacks: Freeza's disk and Krillin's Destructo Disk.

Freeza gets his disk as soon as you start out. You can chage it up, throw it, and return it back to your hand. Krillins Destructo Disk is his final ability (so he only gets it after you asend) and you can only throw it forward then have to recharge one up. But the thing is they both seem to have equal power.

I have noticed that you cant block either disk attack and that they both are one-hit-kills. Doesnt this make Freeza way more powerful over krillin? Krillin doesnt get the attack until he has leveled where freeza has it when you start off and is able to return the disk after you throw it! I have watched Freeza players just sit there using this the disk racking up the points and in no time, they can level. Does anyone know if ESF is doing something to make Freeza less uber then he is now?

 

[Nova-San]

Krillin has the destructo disc before he transforms.

 

[KilledWithStyle]

Krillin has the destructo disc before he transforms.

SO DOES FREIZA

 

[~*Logan*~]

Krillin has the destructo disc before he transforms.

what he said

 

[Damirith]

He gets it before he transforms? Wow your right, he doesnt get any new attacks. Well Freeza's disk can be returned to his hand, does krillian have any advantage to his?

 

[Magmus]

none he just gets really really fast... infact he becomes the fastest :laff:

and dont forget the cool hair :laff:

 

[assaf]

buu is the fastest magmus, even your loved green char is faster then krillin.
krillin is not such a good char, that is something for you to know.
the destructo disk has only 1 big adventage for certain ppl: you can spam it like mad and crash the entire server on purpose. some people do so and are very annoying, and some dont.

 

[Magmus]

Transformed Krillin is the fastest character...

its common knowlidge im afraid you are wrong :laff:

 

[Reptile]

actually krillin is better as a player then freeza.
freeza´s attacks fingerlaser/generic beam/disc
krillin´s arracks kamehameha/generic/disc/split ball

seeing that freeza dont have any powerfull attacks (beam) makes him imo a weaker character as krillin

 

[imported_KelesK]

actually krillin is better as a player then freeza.
freeza´s attacks fingerlaser/generic beam/disc
krillin´s arracks kamehameha/generic/disc/split ball

seeing that freeza dont have any powerfull attacks (beam) makes him imo a weaker character as krillin

you said it all

 

[assaf]

well i guess you are right, but somehow i never saw 2 krillins in one server, even in a 10 player game.

 

[~*Logan*~]

actually krillin is better as a player then freeza.
freeza´s attacks fingerlaser/generic beam/disc
krillin´s arracks kamehameha/generic/disc/split ball

seeing that freeza dont have any powerfull attacks (beam) makes him imo a weaker character as krillin

but frieza has the 2nd highest HP in the game.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Only people who are really good sit on Krillin in competative servers (Use him frequently). He transforms last, and his transformation only puts him a little ahead of the Saiyans on the server. Once he starts dying his PL drops back towards server average rendering his transformation much less powerful over time. Krillin is a tough character to use, but if you're good enough to transform he becomes easily the most effective character, with his scatterball rendering him ridiculously powerful while spamming and his insane speed making him impossible to outrun with melee. His disc if anything needs a tweak to make it better, because it's easy to hear, see, and even accidentally dodge.

Frieza transforms faster, keeps his base transformation PL as his base PL (meaning it goes up faster over time), but has fairly crappy attacks. His finger laser is great if you're the ultimate 1X magnification sniper but odds are you aren't, so that leaves him with Death Ball after trans (which relies on spam as it is a projectile) and your disc, which is both obvious and funky. I agree that his disc could use some work because it seems to return too fast, but I don't think it needs anything else to happen to it. He kinda needs it to add to what he can actually do in a competative match.

On a side note, Krillin has 150 HP after transformation, so the difference between himself and Frieza is all negligeable.

 

[Big VEE]

Only people who are really good sit on Krillin in competative servers (Use him frequently). He transforms last, and his transformation only puts him a little ahead of the Saiyans on the server. Once he starts dying his PL drops back towards server average rendering his transformation much less powerful over time. Krillin is a tough character to use, but if you're good enough to transform he becomes easily the most effective character, with his scatterball rendering him ridiculously powerful while spamming and his insane speed making him impossible to outrun with melee. His disc if anything needs a tweak to make it better, because it's easy to hear, see, and even accidentally dodge.

Frieza transforms faster, keeps his base transformation PL as his base PL (meaning it goes up faster over time), but has fairly crappy attacks. His finger laser is great if you're the ultimate 1X magnification sniper but odds are you aren't, so that leaves him with Death Ball after trans (which relies on spam as it is a projectile) and your disc, which is both obvious and funky. I agree that his disc could use some work because it seems to return too fast, but I don't think it needs anything else to happen to it. He kinda needs it to add to what he can actually do in a competative match.

On a side note, Krillin has 150 HP after transformation, so the difference between himself and Frieza is all negligeable.

*Elaborate posts...gotta love it* One thing I thought would be nice is "complete control" over frieza disc..but at the moment it isn't necessary *wouldn't be to bad since it is easily dodged..and it could be added that it could kill its own master...again..not necessary...yet*

-Long posts make for good suggestions....
Sonic Boyster knows this..Do you??

 

[!XxShAdOwxX!]

buu is the fastest magmus, even your loved green char is faster then krillin.
krillin is not such a good char, that is something for you to know.
the destructo disk has only 1 big adventage for certain ppl: you can spam it like mad and crash the entire server on purpose. some people do so and are very annoying, and some dont.

Taken straight from the classes text files:

* Transformation *
Evil Buu -
Transform Powerlevel: 3,000,000
Powerlevel Multiplier: 1.5
Max Health: 180
Max Speed: 320

* Transformation *
Mystic Krillin -
Transform Powerlevel: 3,000,000
Powerlevel Multiplier: 2
Max Health: 150
Max Speed: 350

 

[assaf]

1 little mistake, and everybody is correcting me in turns...
quote of myself: "i guess you are right, but i never saw 2 krillins in 1 server, even with 10 players."
also i almost never go transed with krillin so i cant say so many about him transed.....

 

[Cyfore]

frieza can be almost as effective as buu... if you use the fingerlaser correctly

and 1 question, do you get pl from discs? cuz i didnt think you did.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

You get a really small amount of PL from killing someone with a disc. I doubt anyone relying on the disc is going to transform in the first hour, even if they have the highest number of kills on the server.

 

[joachim g]

yeah i was just slashing some bots with friezadisc and i had bout 700 kills with a puny pl of 5.5mil lol
just gotta love the laser when u have someone on the ground, free kill most of the time.