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Oh Raven, how would you know better than LSSJ? He's an ESF specialist! I think he's secretly a dev member, whereas you're just some person with a black nick on the forums!

now now no need to be all racist avenger. its not ravens fault he is the way he is
 
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I can definitely see that happening. At least the forum will be full of activity... of people whining about what they were given.
There's a saying: There is no such thing as bad advertising. The more people aware of the mod that come in for whatever reason, to whine or to pay their respects to the team, the better imo. Whereas people with bad attitudes would certainly drive people away.

Question: Would Phase 1 have bots?
 
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there is no real difference between these games.....zeq is a mod for quake3 and this is a mod for half life.........both are mods.........
and it works perfectly for zeq2! sure the community can suggest and upload maps BUT the main download only get controlled by zeth

make one rule: no complaining and do it SVN way..........there wont be any complainings at first place.....and even if make me mod. i delete them and ban the accounds before anyone sees this....i am playing this game since the alpha....and for this version now i waited already over 10 years.......

esf is becoming the new duke nukem!

but still do what u like.....but i think its insane what you do....show pics and stuff and get them all hungry for a game which wont come out in the next years....if it ever gets released....a few hours ago i checked for dragonball mods just for fun..there were really awesome mods....just search: "moddb dragonball mods" there are a few mods where u think "why the hell arent they out"? they also developed for years and never released a single file...but they made the community mad with pics and videos and stuff...

do you wanna keep that for you? then fine.....but if u wanna share it u should really think about it
 
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there is no real difference between these games.....zeq is a mod for quake3 and this is a mod for half life.........both are mods.........
and it works perfectly for zeq2! sure the community can suggest and upload maps BUT the main download only get controlled by zeth

make one rule: no complaining and do it SVN way..........there wont be any complainings at first place.....and even if make me mod. i delete them and ban the accounds before anyone sees this....i am playing this game since the alpha....and for this version now i waited already over 10 years.......

esf is becoming the new duke nukem!

but still do what u like.....but i think its insane what you do....show pics and stuff and get them all hungry for a game which wont come out in the next years....if it ever gets released....a few hours ago i checked for dragonball mods just for fun..there were really awesome mods....just search: "moddb dragonball mods" there are a few mods where u think "why the hell arent they out"? they also developed for years and never released a single file...but they made the community mad with pics and videos and stuff...

do you wanna keep that for you? then fine.....but if u wanna share it u should really think about it
People have already made it clear ESF is not ZEQ2

There is no way people would ad-hear to that rule and there is no way you would make the moderator team especially not high enough to ban.

ESF is a mod
A free mod
A free mod made in people spare time without any form of compensation

Duke Nukem was a highly anticipated and publicised game with a large team of paid employee's working on it.

There's a big difference

Voters of option 1 are obviously more patient and more willing to wait then those of option 2

The reason for POTW is to keep you interested to show what's going on not to make you angry. I'm sure they could stop doing it if you hate it so much
 
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It would be better to do in two phrases because now staff of developing this project is to busy to do everything(i mean there are many people that asks when final will be released) and if they will release it now atleast first phrase people wont ask anymore when it will be final and play the phrase they got.

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I hope that the graphics and gameplay will be good or better than games on PS3/XBOX360.
 
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LSSJ ZEQ2 is not a mod. Its a stand alone sandbox application.

ESF is a mod.

Now we wont be doing an SVN public release so drop it >.>
 
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A free mod made in people spare time without any form of compensation
I quoted this part, cause I think it's a shame Valve would never pay the Dev's, in case the game would do really well( by do well I mean be very popular) and cause a sudden mini-splosion of the Half-Life sales, even-though they would at least deserve some form of compensation from them, because I think it's quite brilliant, that they are not only still supporting an old-as-hell game but that they also made it look ridiculously good and made a really good gameplay, hell I think they achieved most of the good gameplay part,with the exception of some odd op mechanics, in ESF 1.2.3(this is forgetting the fact, that the gameplay will even improve a lot in the Final version) already unlike the... cough console exclusives. Correct me if I'm wrong but there really isn't a game like ESF within the ,,AAA titles" domain, or at least I haven't seen one, right? I'm also only saying this because they have worked for over 10 freaking years on this game if I'm not mistaken, all those years and no compensation? If that really is the case then someone should form a cult that worships them as saints because a dedication of such level is simply over 9000!

All that aside, I have faith this game will be quite the thing when it releases: ,,A Dragonball Game, that is actually a mod, that puts all the console exclusive DBZ games to shame."But I wonder if they would consider working for a big company(hopefully not EagleApples) if they attract enough attention(that is if they are not already), because the talent level of the team also seems to be over 9000.

I'll also attempt to bump a question someone asked but I'll make a slight change to it
,,What type of priority would be given to the inclusion of bots in the game, if it would release in 2 phases?"

I would also be interested to know, if it's at all possible.
 
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I just want to point out that the attitude towards unvalidated members is really ****ed up. Even if they don't have Half-Life, their opinion matters just as much as ours. Some of the people have already stated that they'll buy Half-life 1 when the update is released or near release, and some of them already have Half-Life, but simply aren't validated. So drop the **** towards them. Seriously.

With that being said, I don't know where you're getting all these things from, LSSJ. First off, ESF is nothing like Duke Nukem. As I have stated in my last post, there have been consistent, quality updates over the past 10 years. How is that anything similar to Duke Nukem, where there wasn't anything released for over 10 years? Second, it only "worked" with ZEQ2 because it is a community driven project. Last I checked, ESF isn't a community driven project where anyone can contribute to the project with whatever they want, whenever they want. Finally, do you really think that ESF won't be released? You talk as if the team has been releasing pictures and videos just to get the community hyped for nothing. Is that really what you're worried about? It's called publicity and giving to the community. Appreciate what they're doing instead of over-analyzing it and worrying about **** that won't happen.

As for what Deverz said towards the option 2 voters with bias, I would just like to state that not everyone who voted wants the game "now now now". I recommend reading up on what some of the earlier, quality replies said about the Phases option.
 
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I think Skyrider should look at implementing Thumps Up/Down for posts so I can give @Damaera some Thumbs Up on that comment :smile:
 
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I will buy Half Life once it is released. Not going to throw 10 dollars away and maybe do a year nothing with it.
1. You could play the game
2. http://www.moddb.com/

I think Skyrider should look at implementing Thumps Up/Down for posts so I can give @Damaera some Thumbs Up on that comment :smile:
The forum has a reputation feature, the star under every post

I quoted this part, cause I think it's a shame Valve would never pay the Dev's, in case the game would do really well( by do well I mean be very popular) and cause a sudden mini-splosion of the Half-Life sales, even-though they would at least deserve some form of compensation from them, because I think it's quite brilliant, that they are not only still supporting an old-as-hell game but that they also made it look ridiculously good and made a really good gameplay, hell I think they achieved most of the good gameplay part,with the exception of some odd op mechanics, in ESF 1.2.3(this is forgetting the fact, that the gameplay will even improve a lot in the Final version) already unlike the... cough console exclusives. Correct me if I'm wrong but there really isn't a game like ESF within the ,,AAA titles" domain, or at least I haven't seen one, right? I'm also only saying this because they have worked for over 10 freaking years on this game if I'm not mistaken, all those years and no compensation? If that really is the case then someone should form a cult that worships them as saints because a dedication of such level is simply over 9000!

All that aside, I have faith this game will be quite the thing when it releases: ,,A Dragonball Game, that is actually a mod, that puts all the console exclusive DBZ games to shame."But I wonder if they would consider working for a big company(hopefully not EagleApples) if they attract enough attention(that is if they are not already), because the talent level of the team also seems to be over 9000.
The team never can get paid for their work as stated a million times on these forums. They don't hold DBZ licences.
P.S There is somebody on this forum that works for EA, which there is nothing wrong with doing so.
 
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I just want to point out that the attitude towards unvalidated members is really ****ed up. Even if they don't have Half-Life, their opinion matters just as much as ours. Some of the people have already stated that they'll buy Half-life 1 when the update is released or near release, and some of them already have Half-Life, but simply aren't validated. So drop the **** towards them. Seriously.
I see no reason why people who haven't validated or bought Half-Life shouldn't be subject to criticism in a poll that largely affects people who own Half-Life. Furthermore, there's no reason to assume the people who don't have HL now will get it in the future, unless Zeo buys it for all of them. They will find a way to get around whatever protection the devteam set up, and then they will come back to the forum to whine about lacking features. Please stop this nonsensical righteous indignation.

As for what Deverz said towards the option 2 voters with bias, I would just like to state that not everyone who voted wants the game "now now now". I recommend reading up on what some of the earlier, quality replies said about the Phases option.
Fairly sure that the only people who want the two phase option are the "now now now" people, no matter how you dress it up and tie a bow on it.

The forum has a reputation feature, the star under every post
Did someone disable it for me, then?
 

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The reputation system is needs to be calibrated, I think. You need a stupidly high number of people adding to your reputation to get more than one green blip. Only one person has legitimately gotten more than one green dot, and that's Zeonix who sits comfortably with two whole blips.
 
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I see no reason why people who haven't validated or bought Half-Life shouldn't be subject to criticism in a poll that largely affects people who own Half-Life. Furthermore, there's no reason to assume the people who don't have HL now will get it in the future, unless Zeo buys it for all of them. They will find a way to get around whatever protection the devteam set up, and then they will come back to the forum to whine about lacking features. Please stop this nonsensical righteous indignation.
I do. Again, not all non-validated users are without a copy of Half-Life. You're unvalidated and have a copy of Half-Life. You voted in the poll, I'm not criticizing you for doing such a thing despite being an unvalidated user. If you took the time to read my post, I said that some people have already stated that they will be buying Half-Life 1 when the update is released. I don't know how you're mixing that up with me assuming such a thing. As for your comment about people finding a way to get past the protection the team set up.. really? That happens everywhere for anything. People get past anything, and complain about things they aren't happy about. Get used to it.

Nonsensical righteous indignation? Sorry for not living up to the elitist standards you appear to have set for everyone. I believe in fairness and equality and think that non-validated users have just as much say as anyone else. If you want to criticize non-validated people voting in the poll, fine, go right ahead. However, don't be a **** and say that their opinion means nothing.



Fairly sure that the only people who want the two phase option are the "now now now" people, no matter how you dress it up and tie a bow on it.
Fortunately for us, you don't make a living for assuming and making guesses. Despite me personally wanting the mod to have a full-blown final release, I voted for option 2. I lost interest in playing the game long ago, and will most likely only play it on occasional times. However, contrary to what you assume, I do care about the success of this mod, and I explained my reasoning behind picking the second option. Which in fact, is not because I want the release "now now now".

I understand that you enjoy taking any chance you can get to jump at me or go against what I say, but at this point it seems you're getting desperate. A lot of your points are countered in posts from both me and others.
 
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