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as long as those bubbas are animated, i love it.
 
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ok, ok, so we failed in a lot of areas, i dont usually model females =/, i guess it wouldnt be much of a problem if she was in her skirt outfit, since the jacket hides a lot of the definition, but thats the outfit masta wanted. as for the head, the head is fairly decent other than the large hair. the hair is set like that so it could be animated. as for facial structure I really should have spent more time on it, but meh.

@whoever stated the earings were square, that was done on purpose. i did that intentionally so that i could save on polies since esf has a poly limit of 1500. which might also explain why zeq2's looks better. the have more too use.

@Bolteh: Ya, i should look into female anatomy, but meh. im too lazy atm. The hands were taken from trunks since i like to reuse parts alot. i didnt really edit them much either.

But ya, ill probably go into it with masta more, we can try to straighten it up some but i wont promise anything special.

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Being an avid android 18 fan, I am dissappointed SEVERELY with the model and skin.

Model problems - as much as I don't mind her breasts being a little bigger....they don't look too realistic. Also, her hair is too....big. Too poofy. It needs to be flattened a little more. Her shoulder blades look like they're sticking out of her back too in one angle. Very unattrative. Also, her pelvis looks a little bulged, making her seem a few weeks pregnant like someone else said. Also, her hands look beefy. Thin them more.

Skinning problems - First off...the purple lipstick has GOT TO GO! She doesn't wear lipstick often, and when she does, its redish. With that lipstick and that smirk, she looks like a middle-aged lady rather than a young woman about 20 years old. Also, her pants seem to be rising up on her a little bit.

Modeling - 3/10
Skinning - 4/10
Overall = 3.5/10

I just hope this model gets fixed or someone models and skins a much better version.
 
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to be honest...i think its...very bad

-The hair stands up to much(too much space between the head and the top of the hair)
-forehead is too long
-skinning is very poorly done
-hair hangs to far away from the head (sides)
-did someone step on her tumbs? (they are WAY to big)
-and those pumps...or whatever they are...they just look weird, it would be almost impossible to walk on those...

so overall score: 2,5

not what i expected from a ESF model
 
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so i take it everyone would rather i modeled her completely naked till i get the anatomy of a woman correct and then cloth her -_-, as for the "shoulder blades" if your talking about whats under the arms thats some of the shirt, and like i explained in my earlier post, i didnt spend too much time on female anatomy. I dont model women much anyways so ya. hopefully we'll get this fixed, be patient =/
 
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well GG...porn is against the AUP =\

and...why is the max polycount in esf 1500...i think most comps can atleast handle 1700-1900...and maybe...hold a poll on videocards to see what the average systems can handle?
 
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So if there is a limit of 1500 polyz...I wanted 2 say about the head that is much better done in zeq2 than here...this need;s 2 be a little round and the hair need lot of work...and the face not so long....

p.s. Does C#18 look's older than in the show or is it just me?
oh..yeah almost forgot....God gundam if ya'r doing that naked model plz
let me have it :D
 
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-- Hair poof. WAY TOO ACCENTED for mesh.
-- Look at the definition on her neck/chest -- she has boobs not man pecks :)
-- Lips probably should be toned down on the skin unless your going for that trailerpark housewife look.
-- Her pretty white stripe shirt needs to go into the wash for a while.
-- And last but not least, Man HANDS (since you used trunks I'm guessing)
 
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Ok this is how i think it would improve on the model. Dont know if anyone will agree with me but here it is anyways.





This isnt reducing the hair size just the forehead size. Since i saw GG made it like that for animating. But forehead is the only thing thats making it look big. Reduce that and problem solved. (maybe)


This is my opinion Anyone agree with this at all?
 
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Overall it's very nice. However, one small thing I noticed: 18's lips. The skin looks like she has lipstick on and in the series she has no "lip definition" at all.

As for the hair; Android 18 always had that "hair looks like a wig" thing going on in the series, so that looks fine as far as "realism"
 
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nahh the lips are good but that isn't her face..and again the hair problem 2 big..it's kinda up...and her hair isn't that hight
and u sad that the poly limits are 1500 but wath about that Gotenks W.I.P. model he uses 2192 polys
 
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The only thing looking good are the sleeves/black shirt/hands . I am amazed how much it's improoved then the last skin I saw of you Mastasurf.

1) The hair texutre your using looks like stone/stonic texture, if you look hard I think you might actually manage to see hair. Most girlish hair has kind of highlights to it , also some smoother looking lines.
2) The jeans texture is way off. You can say it's too light also the highlight on some places is too high. Which makes your zipper/pocket look really bad. I suggest getting a new texture and darkenin gthe pants some.
3) The face is overall looking "ok". But I would love to see some more colors blended in there, Also making it just a tad cleaner.
4) Now the black shirt you made there , I said it looks good but could of course use a couple of makeovers. Some of the black lines you made really dosen't look like fold at all, But your getting there ! :)
5) The belt is also too light. I also dislike the way you made the texture belt and the yellow shiny part. It needs to have a bit more metallic look.
6) The socks texture is very bad . Just make the socks seem a bit more like actuall socks.

Overall the way you made the skin is ok. But try keeping it a bit more colorful and clean :yes: .
Keep it up, I'll stick around for an update ;).
 
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EVIL_GOKU said:
nahh the lips are good but that isn't her face..and again the hair problem 2 big..it's kinda up...and her hair isn't that hight
and u sad that the poly limits are 1500 but wath about that Gotenks W.I.P. model he uses 2192 polys

its ESF's limit, not unofficial models, they can use whatever. just the esf team set their own limit.
 
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Ok this is how i think it would improve on the model. Dont know if anyone will agree with me but here it is anyways.





This isnt reducing the hair size just the forehead size. Since i saw GG made it like that for animating. But forehead is the only thing thats making it look big. Reduce that and problem solved. (maybe)



This is my opinion Anyone agree with this at all?

#18 is known for the big forehead.
 
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the hair was set like that though so DT can animate it properly, and so it could be skinned properly
 
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After reading GG and mastasurfs posts, i think itll turn out allright - anyway most of ya guys will be seeing her from behind, so worry about her ass not her tits ;)

Allthough that is so, i agree about the lips and the breasts, but i think DT will make the hair look nicely when it gets animated! Anyhow im looking forward to trying it out, and i know i wouldnt be able to make anything like that myself anyway :)
 
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The lips have been at least two times said to be good, but people, you don't see goku with those huge caribean lips, why should 18 have them? o_O
I do agree with whoever said that the eyeline should be a bit darker/pronounced.
And yeah, cool it on the lara-croft-brests, for some of you it may be sexy but it's not how A18 looks in the series. And actually to be honest they don't even look good :/
 
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I still say give her an ass, I'll say that over and over lol :D

I mean come on... A forum full of guys (for the exception of like what? 5 girls) You can't leave the ass nor other parts out :cool:
 
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This isn't about "OMG! Give her HUGE TITS AND A NICE ASS! AND MAKE HER NUDE TOO!!!111!shift!!11eleven!!111"

It's about accuracy to what the character looks like in the series.
 

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