ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE YOU ******* PIECES OF DIRTY SHIT!!!

[Horatio]

Why apologize? You tried your best. You live a life knowing that no matter how hard you try, you still screw it up.

That's why you annoy me. You pick at a simple wording error, ignoring the vaild arguments beneath.

 

[BlueSaiyan]

That's why you annoy me. You pick at a simple wording error, ignoring the vaild arguments beneath.

do you want my actual number? I've slept with about 25 women in my life.... pretty good right? I've been asked to marry, live with, etc etc... I'm not lacking in ability to pick up women, lol.. it's a concept foreign to you though. And please, PLEASE call me a liar. That would make this so much sweeter for me.

 

[Horatio]

do you want my actual number? I've slept with about 25 women in my life.... pretty good right? I've been asked to marry, live with, etc etc... I'm not lacking in ability to pick up women, lol.. it's a concept foreign to you though. And please, PLEASE call me a liar. That would make this so much sweeter for me.

Holy sht, bro! That's what, 5 women a year? You lucky bstard you...

You still haven't answered my argument or addressed my last post. You just bragged about your fertile dck.

Furthermore, yes, I've never asked any women on a date. Ya got me. Congratz.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

Even assuming that was true, which I can assure you I'm not outside the purposes of this post, why are you even proud of that? And why is this even a subject right now? In case you haven't noticed, this is a Dragon Ball Z forum. Not only does your sex life matter even less than your woeful attempts at convincing yourself that you're "winning" this thread, but Dio was more alluding to the fact that you were apparently going on a date...

...And then going to your friends. The hell kinda date would that be and why even say that? You just seem to work against yourself at all points in this thread. But, you should know that we don't actually care. It's just that your idea of a date is hilarious.

 

[BlueSaiyan]

Even assuming that was true, which I can assure you I'm not outside the purposes of this post, why are you even proud of that? And why is this even a subject right now? In case you haven't noticed, this is a Dragon Ball Z forum. Not only does your sex life matter even less than your woeful attempts at convincing yourself that you're "winning" this thread, but Dio was more alluding to the fact that you were apparently going on a date...

...And then going to your friends. The hell kinda date would that be and why even say that? You just seem to work against yourself at all points in this thread. But, you should know that we don't actually care. It's just that your idea of a date is hilarious.

Do you need me to explain what a dinner date is to you? You go out, have dinner together, talk, then drop the lovely lady back off at her home. Furthermore I didn't want to talk about my sex life either but Horatio/Dio seems to think I can't get a date.

Now let me claim my victory against Dio, will you?

 

[Zeonix]

Billy, when your parents stop chaperoning your "dates", you can talk big to Horatio and Dark. Until such time, let's stop calling what you went on a dinner date, and call it what it really was: a forced play date. You're the kid who has no friends, so mommy and daddy have to convince their friends to let little Billy tag along with their kids to Chuck E Cheese as the parents talk about whether or not you're going to end up a serial killer or just a rapist.

 

[hleV]

Have you ever thought that perhaps your perception of... world... is simply different than everyone else's? You seem to think that you're actually right, while everybody else disagrees. You don't accept any valid arguments as valid arguments. Yet you treat your own bullshit as proof for your claims. That's not how shit goes here. That's not how shit goes anywhere but the place you live in, at best. Think about it, because you're not getting anywhere with that kind of attitude.









































But I guess you're just too good for this forum, bro. We're all retarded here.

 

[Horatio]

Do you need me to explain what a dinner date is to you? You go out, have dinner together, talk, then drop the lovely lady back off at her home. Furthermore I didn't want to talk about my sex life either but Horatio/Dio seems to think I can't get a date.

Now let me claim my victory against Dio, will you?

Your argument hasn't even started today. You can't claim vicory anyway.

And you're right, I don't think you can get a date. I'm gonna have to subscribe to Dio's idea of the serial killer/rapist scenario.

Who even mentioned sex? I was annoyed that you were avoiding my argument, and you just pumped out 'WANT MY NUMBER CUS I HAD 25 GIRLFRIENDS AND I AIN'T LYING BUT TELL ME I AM'.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

You realize he's just at work at the moment? Or maybe at school. I dunno, but you ain't gonna win. Both of us will keep insulting you and turning your arguments around until you either leave, stop posting, or are banned. Why? Because it's funny and you provide us with an endless ability to ridicule you behind your back.

And yes, we don't believe that you had a date. We barely believe that you have friends. But even if we're wrong, it doesn't matter much. You're still sitting here on a DBZ forum bragging about your sex life and attempting at a vocabulary that you barely seem to understand. Yes, I have heard of a dinner date and way to be an interesting person, my friend. Good on ya. It's still an abysmal date, and one that none of us will ever believe happened even if you were to show us a picture of said date, gif'd, and with audio of you specifically saying that it's a date and telling us your name and personal info.

I'd also warn you very seriously not to give out your number on this forum. You'd severely underestimate how cruel some of us are.

 

[BlueSaiyan]

I guess the allusion to Of Mice and Men flew right over your Cuckoos Nest. To be expected when dealing with an opossum.

Yes, I guess all those years of getting teased in high school for having your nose in the books with no friends has bred in you a level of nerd rage which all the jocks have learned to fear. Unlike the manga you read however, you won't be transforming to kick any ass, no you'll still be the same geek with man boobs and social anxiety that you always were. Go microwave some more burritos. HAHAHA. This is hilarious. It's like I've got you backed in to a corner and all you can do is try and throw obscure references and totally unrelated bits of information at me because you know you're running out of game-related things to say.

You keep making these statements, and I'm not entirely sure why. Do you know what modding Skyrim does? Because it sounds like you think its replacing content rather than existing parallel to it. An easy mistake to make when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. As previously stated, and as previously ignored, I've put in over 200 hours. Most of that was simply me meandering about. I could have completed most of the game short of crafting, which was the most boring aspect to me, well under 60 hours and still have time to visit my floating airship. Oh wait, you don't have one of those because you think Skyrim belongs on a console.

Listen man, you're getting way off topic here. "DO YOU KNOW WHAT MODDING SKYRIM DOES?" Obviously yes. You made a statement, which was "there's not over 100 hours of content" which is either TRUE or FALSE. I KNOW it to be false, and i KNOW you to be wrong. If you simply don't BELIEVE me, then we could argue about it for eternity and not get any where. It's unfortunate though when people want to continue to argue about something within which they have no experience. You say things like "I spent almost 200 hours meandering about" lol. Kind of like in this thread? You're simply "meandering about" while I'm approaching this objectively. I spent my time doing useful things and still it was easy to rack up over 100 hours in this game experiencing REAL content. I imagine you, brainlessly wandering about the planet like so many of the zombies I've slaughtered. I leave trash like that to rot, won't even bother looting them BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER!

Uh...you realize Skyrim was 60 bucks on the PC when it came out at the exact same time as on console, right? Which is when I bought it. Does that make a video game worth 60 bucks? **** no. 60 bucks goes a long way. I can eat for a week on 60 bucks. I understand that mommy and daddy provide everything little billy needs because he can't fend for himself, and so he needs to take his aggression out on the internet, but for those of us who, you know, pay pills, sometimes you need to prioritize. Luckily, I make enough money now that I can buy whatever I want and not worry about it, but old habits die hard, and I'd rather pinch my pennies than spend it all just because I can.

Oh! So you bought it at launch, then? But, doesn't that directly contradict your stated preference to buy games a year after launch? That means you just interjected that totally unrelated tidbit for the hell of it? That does seem to be your style lately in regards to this "debate" if I can even call it that. these replies I'm reading from you completely lack objective. You're just here to argue at this point, which you will never win, because I actually remember what started this "debate" in the first place. But for you it seems to be a distant memory, and all that is left is nerd rage.

It's interesting that your argument is I'm wrong, because you experienced 100 hours worth of content, and your opinion is more right than mine. I've played the game more than you, with both the OC and the additional content made available by mods (again, they exist parallel to each other and wont overwrite unless you want it to, like in the way of graphic mods). This point alludes you for no reason other than you're being an idiot and refuse to change your mind on anything. Also, you experienced the worst possible version of Skyrim, so whatever.

This goes back to me saying you completely lack objective. Vanilla Skyrim DOES offer over 100 hours worth of content. You can't even believe it YOURSELF how amazing this game was at launch, which to me is the same reason you're so pessimistic about their MMO... but ANYWAYS, I've got the perfect analogy to prove to you (haha i wish you'd listen) why you're wrong about the content value... you ready?

You've never eaten a pizza before in your life, so you order a combination pizza and say to me "There's no way that underneath those toppings that cheese covers the entire pizza! How could there possibly be that much cheese??" and I say to you, "Yes it does cover the pizza, just take the toppings off and see!" But you refuse, because you've already ordered your combination, and going back at that point seems totally useless. /analogy. But it's okay, I agree, if you've grown to preference something then keep doing it, but don't try and argue a point against me that you've no base of knowledge of.

It's a childrens book. For children. And you're a child. And your ability to determine a good narrative from a mediocre one is incredibly suspect at this point so...you know what? It's alright. Barney style. You don't read anything worth reading, so you think Skyrim had a compelling story because your arsenal of stories is limited to shit. Bingo bango. The rest of this paragraph is you still not having a clue as to what modding does to Skyrim. Which is still hilarious, because you have to be a complete moron to think its somehow destroying the game. Not that you are. Well, you might be, but I'm not one to judge. Well, I am. And I have.
I've watched just a tad more than 5 minutes of gameplay footage. It has nothing to do with assuming the worst. It has everything to do with being neutral, rather than an optimistic consumer adamant about throwing his money. If they want my money, they need to prove to me why their product is worth it. They've yet to do that.

The whole "child" insult is as archaic as the internet itself. It's a way for nerds with man boobies to flex their superiority complex over people who made them feel as little as their own weener. But anyways, in regards to the narrative of the quests, they manage to marry game-play with OBJECTIVITY to give the player PURPOSE to PLAY and to make the world feel REAL. They breathed LIFE in to the world and they were all very unique compared to each other. Now if you were to ask me if I'd like to read a copy of all of Skyrim's transcipts, of course I'd say no. It's about the MARRIAGE of objectivity and game-play which makes it all work.... But in regards you being neutral? You're not at all. You've state multiple times (don't make me quote you boy) how you hate MMORPG's and that they'll have to prove themselves to you. That is nowhere near "neutral" LMAO if you think it is.

Philosophically speaking? Ahahaahha, you can't possibly exist! Are you guys punking me? Am I on a tv show! Aha, you got me guys. Guys? Holy shit, you're this stupid? Mother of God, Billy, how are you still alive?

LOL explosion of nerd rage. Don't blow your load all over the screen bro, you need it to recognize your defeat to me. And don't worry, you can bow down behind the screen and I can't even see you unless I hack in to your crappy Celeron laptop's webcam.

Lmao, right. "I can't promise its going to be amazing....but it's probably going to be amazing!" Again, if I'm transported into the world and women suck me off all day, you'll have piqued my interest. Until then, its another fantasy mmo with sword and fairies. Hooray.

Yes, I can't GUARANTEE it but going by all of their past accomplishments as I watched them go from Zero to HERO, I can definitely asses that their next project will be one of quality. And as I said before, they've been creating MMO worlds already for years, so this will be a VERY smooth transition. You just are so biased against MMO's that it doesn't even matter any more, you're just here to whine and tell the world how much you hate MMO's. So be it, the world could always use a negative Nancy like yourself. Women love that, right? Oh, no, maybe that's why you're so desperate for a blow job. Hahaha. Owned. Maybe that's why $60 dollars is a lot of money to you because you "blow" it all on, well, things that blow you.... sigh... probably so. But back on topic here: You hate vanilla TES games, and you hate MMO's. So your opinion is already largely bias and negative. I am NOT trying to convince u to buy this game, but for people like me out there who have faith in Bethesda and TES games, there is PLENTY of reason to assume that TESO will raise the bar in the MMO world.

It's hilarious, because no one is backing me up. They legitimately don't like you. Several of them are interested in the game, but their disdain for you is putting a bad taste in their mouths, and so its taking some of the shine off the game. Like I said before, the idea that people like you will be playing this game is enough to put me off.

Well, fortunately for me, I don't come in here to play a popularity contest. I'm guessing that's why you've wasted so much of your time in these forums, because your fake friends online friends pretend to like you. Hahaha. What happens when shit gets real? What happens when you go to jail for being the john that you are, will your fake friends bail you out? It's a sad fate indeed... And I'd recommend they start tolerating me because I'm not going any where and I'm not changing for any body ;-). It's better to be either loved or hated, instead of just there, existing frivolously.

The bigger picture is you speaking "philosophically" about these people working really, really hard out of the kindness of their hearts and wanting absolutely nothing in return, right?. Right. So here's the deal, at this point, they could make a half-assed version of a TES game and you'd buy it on reflex. Because you're a consumer. They're selling you a product, you're using your money and spending it on video games. That gives them money, which they spend on other products, ad infinitum, and thats the economy in a nutshell. If you think talking about their artistic spirit means anything, you're high as a kite and about as useless as a football bat. You're literally saying nothing at this point. Words spew forth from your mouth in a river of shit, and frankly, it's getting old.

Wrong. It's not about the kindness of their hearts. It's about their PASSION to create amazing games. I know the word PASSION eludes you because your life and career surely lack it so I couldn't possibly expect you to understand. But people who LOVE what they do would continue doing it even if it DIDN'T pay (but they'd have other jobs of course). Just like the ESF team. They enjoy working on this project, expect no money in exchange, but they are STILL making an amazing game and we ALL get to benefit from their passion for their project. (Man, I really brought it home on that one!) P.S. when Diomedes runs out of clean things to say he starts spewing out insults like an old water spicket spews out rust. It's really sad how you can say crap like that and your mind still allows you to think you're superior to ANYONE. LOL!

You missed my post the first time because you've never seen someone do that before. You missed my post the second time because you have a learning disability.

The spicket is spewing out rust again :-/ sigh.... We'll have to wait and come back later when this useless thing cleans itself up.

Your ignorance on the subject of spelling is appalling. The hardest part is coming up with an idea that works. If you have a blueprint right in front of you, its suddenly a lot easier. That's why China was able to mimic the F-35 so well. Not that you'd know anything about.....well....anything.

Ahh, the ole "You can't spell" insult has been tossed around since Emailing was invented. It lacks punch, kind of like your arguments. My arguments have more punch than a black kid's birthday party. But anyways, black on topic here, I think the Bethesda team is large enough and intelligent enough to come up with an idea that works. The reason they didn't implement it is because they gave you 150+ hours worth of content with 45+ cubic miles of GORGEOUS High Def landscapes and a massive lore that would take you a year to read plus more weapons and armor than your coffers could ever carry AND more abilities than you'd EVER need to conquer the lands of Skyrim. There is a TON of content here, so to actually EXPECT more from them is disrespectful. don't you think if they were in it for the money they could have whipped together some ultra-crappy online mode? They wouldn't DO that because they RESPECT and LOVE their project. So, with all of this said, I'm declaring this a sweeping victory for yours truly ;-) P.S. It's hilarious how you're trying to branch this focused argument in all kinds of wild directions because you know you can't win here. Hahaha... and you're referring to Chinese spies/hackers aren't you? Please, keep this on subject.

You're ridiculous. I was talking about Skyrim, your Jesus in a disc, being replaced by the next TES. Reading comprehension, Billy. It's important.

One of many examples of a disconnect between us. We'll never see eye to eye. But go ahead I encourage you to steal and rehash more of my insults, after all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

That's funny, because the mods I've used were embraced by Bethesda on their forums. But what does Bethesda really know about their vision. You're the Boy Wonder Billy!

Embraced by them yes, to do anything else would be censorship which would be downright blasphemous. But you still miss my point, in using Skyrim in it's PUREST form as a means to asses the company's future successes as developers. You're like a talking train that won't stay on the rails. Absolutely useless in an argument. Lol.


Whelp, folks, the outcome is clear. So sad for all of Dio's "fake friends" here to have to watch some random forum newbie come in and destroy their beloved leader, but that's exactly what just happened. Go ahead, "vote" amongst yourselves to try and unanimously gang up on me, because the poor guy needs help. It's fine, but you'll never convince me that I didn't totally obliterate him in this argument. Hopefully though we'll get a chance to argue again in the future, fellas and sorry but even if I did theoretically destroy your leader, I have no interest in taking over and leading any of you. You'll have to stand up on your own two from now on.

 

[Horatio]

Yes, I guess all those years of getting teased in high school for having your nose in the books with no friends have bred in you a level of nerd rage which all the jocks have learned to fear. Unlike the manga you read however, you won't be transforming to kick any ass, no you'll still be the same geek with man boobs and social anxiety that you always were. Go microwave some more burritos. HAHAHA. This is hilarious. It's like I've got you backed in to a corner and all you can do is try and throw obscure references and totally unrelated bits of information at me because you know you're running out of game-related things to say.

Drawing more conclusions out of nothing, with the whole 'Man boobs' thing. Congratz, you are a U.S President level hypocrite.

Listen man, you're getting way off topic here. "DO YOU KNOW WHAT MODDING SKYRIM DOES?" Obviously yes. You made a statement, which was "there's not over 100 hours of content" which is either TRUE or FALSE. I KNOW it to be false, and i KNOW you to be wrong. If you simply don't BELIEVE me, then we could argue about it for eternity and not get any where. It's unfortunate though when people want to continue to argue about something within which they have no experience. You say things like "I spent almost 200 hours meandering about" lol. Kind of like in this thread? You're simply "meandering about" while I'm approaching this objectively. I spent my time doing useful things and still it was easy to rack up over 100 hours in this game experiencing REAL content. I imagine you, brainlessly wandering about the planet like so many of the zombies I've slaughtered. I leave trash like that to rot, won't even bother looting them BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER!

He was adding things to the game. You wouldn't say that 2+2<2, would you? No, 2+2=4. Skyrim + Mods = more Skyrim!

Oh! So you bought it at launch, then? But, doesn't that directly contradict your stated preference to buy games a year after launch? That means you just interjected that totally unrelated tidbit for the hell of it? That does seem to be your style lately in regards to this "debate" if I can even call it that. these replies I'm reading from you completely lack objective. You're just here to argue at this point, which you will never win, because I actually remember what started this "debate" in the first place. But for you it seems to be a distant memory, and all that is left is nerd rage.

PREFERENCE. PREFERENCE. NOT PERSONAL LAW. Dio's replies obviously contain objective, genius. C'mon.

This goes back to me saying you completely lack objective. Vanilla Skyrim DOES offer over 100 hours worth of content. You can't even believe it YOURSELF how amazing this game was at launch, which to me is the same reason you're so pessimistic about their MMO... but ANYWAYS, I've got the perfect analogy to prove to you (haha i wish you'd listen) why you're wrong about the content value... you ready?

You could play Super Hexagon for 1000s of hours; are you going to? Nope!

You've never eaten a pizza before in your life, so you order a combination pizza and say to me "There's no way that underneath those toppings that cheese covers the entire pizza! How could there possibly be that much cheese??" and I say to you, "Yes it does cover the pizza, just take the toppings off and see!" But you refuse, because you've already ordered your combination, and going back at that point seems totally useless. /analogy. But it's okay, I agree, if you've grown to preference something then keep doing it, but don't try and argue a point against me that you've no base of knowledge of.

A more accurate description would be for someone to have a pizza & a side salad. They don't like the pizza, and they eat the side salad instead.

The whole "child" insult is as archaic as the internet itself. It's a way for nerds with man boobies to flex their superiority complex over people who made them feel as little as their own weener. But anyways, in regards to the narrative of the quests, they manage to marry game-play with OBJECTIVITY to give the player PURPOSE to PLAY and to make the world feel REAL. They breathed LIFE in to the world and they were all very unique compared to each other. Now if you were to ask me if I'd like to read a copy of all of Skyrim's transcipts, of course I'd say no. It's about the MARRIAGE of objectivity and game-play which makes it all work.... But in regards you being neutral? You're not at all. You've state multiple times (don't make me quote you boy) how you hate MMORPG's and that they'll have to prove themselves to you. That is nowhere near "neutral" LMAO if you think it is.

Each game has to prove themselves to be a good game. If you have the best physics simulator ever and you just show cats, no one's gonna but it.

LOL explosion of nerd rage. Don't blow your load all over the screen bro, you need it to recognize your defeat to me. And don't worry, you can bow down behind the screen and I can't even see you unless I hack in to your crappy Celeron laptop's webcam.

PILE ON THE HYPOCRISY BRO

Yes, I can't GUARANTEE it but going by all of their past accomplishments as I watched them go from Zero to HERO, I can definitely asses that their next project will be one of quality. And as I said before, they've been creating MMO worlds already for years, so this will be a VERY smooth transition. You just are so biased against MMO's that it doesn't even matter any more, you're just here to whine and tell the world how much you hate MMO's. So be it, the world could always use a negative Nancy like yourself. Women love that, right? Oh, no, maybe that's why you're so desperate for a blow job. Hahaha. Owned. Maybe that's why $60 dollars is a lot of money to you because you "blow" it all on, well, things that blow you.... sigh... probably so. But back on topic here: You hate vanilla TES games, and you hate MMO's. So your opinion is already largely bias and negative. I am NOT trying to convince u to buy this game, but for people like me out there who have faith in Bethesda and TES games, there is PLENTY of reason to assume that TESO will raise the bar in the MMO world.



Well, fortunately for me, I don't come in here to play a popularity contest. I'm guessing that's why you've wasted so much of your time in these forums, because your fake friends online friends pretend to like you. Hahaha. What happens when shit gets real? What happens when you go to jail for being the john that you are, will your fake friends bail you out? It's a sad fate indeed... And I'd recommend they start tolerating me because I'm not going any where and I'm not changing for any body ;-). It's better to be either loved or hated, instead of just there, existing frivolously.



Wrong. It's not about the kindness of their hearts. It's about their PASSION to create amazing games. I know the word PASSION eludes you because your life and career surely lack it so I couldn't possibly expect you to understand. But people who LOVE what they do would continue doing it even if it DIDN'T pay (but they'd have other jobs of course). Just like the ESF team. They enjoy working on this project, expect no money in exchange, but they are STILL making an amazing game and we ALL get to benefit from their passion for their project. (Man, I really brought it home on that one!) P.S. when Diomedes runs out of clean things to say he starts spewing out insults like an old water spicket spews out rust. It's really sad how you can say crap like that and your mind still allows you to think you're superior to ANYONE. LOL!

I insult you, therefore my arguments and viewpoints are invalid, right? Right. I knew you'd agree with me.

The spicket is spewing out rust again :-/ sigh.... We'll have to wait and come back later when this useless thing cleans itself up.




Ahh, the ole "You can't spell" insult has been tossed around since Emailing was invented. It lacks punch, kind of like your arguments. My arguments have more punch than a black kid's birthday party. But anyways, black on topic here, I think the Bethesda team is large enough and intelligent enough to come up with an idea that works. The reason they didn't implement it is because they gave you 150+ hours worth of content with 45+ cubic miles of GORGEOUS High Def landscapes and a massive lore that would take you a year to read plus more weapons and armor than your coffers could ever carry AND more abilities than you'd EVER need to conquer the lands of Skyrim. There is a TON of content here, so to actually EXPECT more from them is disrespectful. don't you think if they were in it for the money they could have whipped together some ultra-crappy online mode? They wouldn't DO that because they RESPECT and LOVE their project. So, with all of this said, I'm declaring this a sweeping victory for yours truly ;-) P.S. It's hilarious how you're trying to branch this focused argument in all kinds of wild directions because you know you can't win here. Hahaha... and you're referring to Chinese spies/hackers aren't you? Please, keep this on subject.

a. How do you measure miles in a video game? Show sources or GTFO.
b. Gorgeous is subjective.
c. Lore takes you a year to read - is it interesting? What about reading speed? What about how often you read it?
d. Oh, lots of weps? Count me in! That's what makes a game, right?
e. Employees make horrible game -> Get fired/ pay cut.
ei Employees make good game -> Get promoted/pay increase.
It's as simple as that.

One of many examples of a disconnect between us. We'll never see eye to eye. But go ahead I encourage you to steal and rehash more of my insults, after all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

But... but... forget it. I can't go further. I feel an aneurism coming on...


Embraced by them yes, to do anything else would be censorship which would be downright blasphemous. But you still miss my point, in using Skyrim in it's PUREST form as a means to asses the company's future successes as developers. You're like a talking train that won't stay on the rails. Absolutely useless in an argument. Lol.

Now please go away BlueSaiyan, if only you knew how absolutely brain damaged you look right now....

 

[BlueSaiyan]

I'll be waiting for Dio's response, this argument is with him. I could destroy your points as well as site sources like http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111208175145AA9nWnZ

But with respect to Dio let's not muddy up these waters with your attempts to jump in the middle. Let him respond to my post.

 

[Horatio]

I'll be waiting for Dio's response, this argument is with him. I could destroy your points as well as site sources like http://http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111208175145AA9nWnZ

But with respect to Dio let's not muddy up these waters with your attempts to jump in the middle. Let him respond to my post.

Taking the 'Roll the dice again and go with the second roll' route? Wow.

You answered me before. I can only assume that you simply do not have an argument against me here. It's as simple as that. Go on, prove me wrong.

 

[BlueSaiyan]

Waste of my time... it's like the Captain Ginyu frog jumping at the heels of Goku as he battles Frieza. He wouldn't even bother to squish you. Let DIO respond. I'm postponing any other arguments at this point in time.

 

[Horatio]

Waste of my time... it's like the Captain Ginyu frog jumping at the heels of Goku as he battles Frieza. He wouldn't even bother to squish you. Let DIO respond. I'm postponing any other arguments at this point in time.

You just reiterated what you said previously, come on. I knew you were stupid, but I assumed you understood how to tell two arguments apart?

Also, last time I checked, Goku was fighting Frieza and Frog GInyu was simply wandering around with Bulma'n'stuff, and got to the area with the rest of 'em.

I won't use a DBZ reference, you doing it has forever tainted the image of DBZ. It's closer to an undernourished, orphaned and homeless child in Ethiopia doing hand to hand combat with a professional wrestler, meanwhile, there is this perfectly ordinary guy at the side lines, also at hand to hand combat against the child. Sure, you won't admit there's this guy beating you up, but he sure as anything still is.

 

[Zeonix]

Yes, I guess all those years of getting teased in high school for having your nose in the books with no friends have bred in you a level of nerd rage which all the jocks have learned to fear. Unlike the manga you read however, you won't be transforming to kick any ass, no you'll still be the same geek with man boobs and social anxiety that you always were. Go microwave some more burritos. HAHAHA. This is hilarious. It's like I've got you backed in to a corner and all you can do is try and throw obscure references and totally unrelated bits of information at me because you know you're running out of game-related things to say.

Teased in high school? Nose in the books? No friends? Nerd rage? Mein Gott! This is a level of projecting I havent seen since the days of Phobius! Listen, Billy. While you were going to high school, and being a genetic failure, I was out working, educating myself, and becoming the perfect physical specimen. Man boobs? While I'm honing my body into the perfect killing machine every morning, you're looking into the mirror with vacant eyes, combing your neckbeard, adjusting your fedora and declaring yourself dashing. But being a God amongst men requires more than just a chiseled body, Billy. It requires a sound mind with a sharp intellect. And so I read books. This concept is obviously beyond your comprehension. Why would anyone read a book if they're not in school, right? Because, Billy, some of us aren't diabetic TES fanatics whose lives are defined by video games. Some of us like to dabble in all kinds of things. Some of us enjoy reading a good book. Hell, last deployment I managed to read a whopping 65 books. That's pretty good considering I was busy doing man things most of the time. But you know what, Billy? Books aren't for you. Keep reading TES lore found in virtual books scattered throughout your world. If it's longer than 10 pages, it simply isn't for you.

Listen man, you're getting way off topic here. "DO YOU KNOW WHAT MODDING SKYRIM DOES?" Obviously yes. You made a statement, which was "there's not over 100 hours of content" which is either TRUE or FALSE. I KNOW it to be false, and i KNOW you to be wrong. If you simply don't BELIEVE me, then we could argue about it for eternity and not get any where. It's unfortunate though when people want to continue to argue about something within which they have no experience. You say things like "I spent almost 200 hours meandering about" lol. Kind of like in this thread? You're simply "meandering about" while I'm approaching this objectively. I spent my time doing useful things and still it was easy to rack up over 100 hours in this game experiencing REAL content. I imagine you, brainlessly wandering about the planet like so many of the zombies I've slaughtered. I leave trash like that to rot, won't even bother looting them BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER!
"HEY GUYS I DONT KNOW HOW MODS AFFECT SKYRIM BECAUSE IM RIDICULOUSLY SLOW-WITTED BUT LET'S MOVE ON SO I CAN NOT MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT" That's all I'm seeing when you evade the question regarding mods, which serve only to add to the content already found within the game.

If you think there are 100 hours of content to be found in Skyrim, that's great. I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. But back to people arguing about things with which they have no experience, you should probably never talk about Skyrim, modding, or really anything ever again, because you're observably ill-informed and just about everything you've tried to argue about thus far. Also, you using DBZ references and Skyrim references to make real world arguments is about the most neckbearded thing you can do, which only makes it more evident that you were projecting in your initial paragraph. Go outside once and while. Go for a run. Work out a little bit. It's good for you. Stop living your life through a jacked video game character.

Oh! So you bought it at launch, then? But, doesn't that directly contradict your stated preference to buy games a year after launch? That means you just interjected that totally unrelated tidbit for the hell of it? That does seem to be your style lately in regards to this "debate" if I can even call it that. these replies I'm reading from you completely lack objective. You're just here to argue at this point, which you will never win, because I actually remember what started this "debate" in the first place. But for you it seems to be a distant memory, and all that is left is nerd rage.

What in the hell are you talking about? Most of the games I buy, I buy on release. Are you confusing me with Dark again? Because that'd be the second time. Again, this goes back to you having a learning disability. Making a mistake once is fine. Making the same exact mistake twice is a little concerning. Keep talking about nerd rage, though. You seem to be well-versed in it.

This goes back to me saying you completely lack objective. Vanilla Skyrim DOES offer over 100 hours worth of content. You can't even believe it YOURSELF how amazing this game was at launch, which to me is the same reason you're so pessimistic about their MMO... but ANYWAYS, I've got the perfect analogy to prove to you (haha i wish you'd listen) why you're wrong about the content value... you ready?

I lack objective because I don't think the game has 100 hours of content? Right. I've seen more of the game, played more of the game and for longer. If anything, I should be the one arguing there was that much content. But, you know, there really isn't.

You've never eaten a pizza before in your life, so you order a combination pizza and say to me "There's no way that underneath those toppings that cheese covers the entire pizza! How could there possibly be that much cheese??" and I say to you, "Yes it does cover the pizza, just take the toppings off and see!" But you refuse, because you've already ordered your combination, and going back at that point seems totally useless. /analogy. But it's okay, I agree, if you've grown to preference something then keep doing it, but don't try and argue a point against me that you've no base of knowledge of.

You should stop making analogies because they've all been terrible. Fact of the matter is, you don't know anything about Skyrim. That much has been made clear by your statements so far. You're not a fan. You're a bandwagoner. That's alright. You're exactly like 90% of the gaming community out there.

The whole "child" insult is as archaic as the internet itself. It's a way for nerds with man boobies to flex their superiority complex over people who made them feel as little as their own weener. But anyways, in regards to the narrative of the quests, they manage to marry game-play with OBJECTIVITY to give the player PURPOSE to PLAY and to make the world feel REAL. They breathed LIFE in to the world and they were all very unique compared to each other. Now if you were to ask me if I'd like to read a copy of all of Skyrim's transcipts, of course I'd say no. It's about the MARRIAGE of objectivity and game-play which makes it all work.... But in regards you being neutral? You're not at all. You've state multiple times (don't make me quote you boy) how you hate MMORPG's and that they'll have to prove themselves to you. That is nowhere near "neutral" LMAO if you think it is.

I'm not sure why you're talking about children and weiners in the same sentence, but at this point you being into boys wouldn't surprise me, Billy.

There is absolutely no way you played Skyrim for 100 hours and think the characters are unique or even interesting. Hell, the voice acting alone should have destroyed your immersion. Also, you keep saying objectivity, but you clearly have no idea what you're saying because you're grouping it with uppercase letters over and over again, and it isn't making any sense. Go ahead and look up the word, and then when you're done educating yourself, come back and say what you intended to say, and not what you actually said.

Do I hate mmos as a rule? Yes. Have I made exceptions? Yes. Why? Because they've been different, either in terms of gameplay or theme or perhaps just the community. As I stated, and as you ignored, I played CoH/CoV for a long time. That's an mmo, btw. If TES is supposed to draw in the the mmo crowd, thats one thing. But if they want to reach a larger crowd, well, guess who's part of that crowd. Me. So unless they do something new and exciting to differentiate this fantasy game from every other fantasy game out there, to differentiate itself from Skyrim, then I'm not interested. Simply being an Elder Scrolls game is enough to catch my attention, but not enough to make me part ways with my hard-earned money. Again, mommy and daddy pay for everything, so that isn't a concern for you.

LOL explosion of nerd rage. Don't blow your load all over the screen bro, you need it to recognize your defeat to me. And don't worry, you can bow down behind the screen and I can't even see you unless I hack in to your crappy Celeron laptop's webcam.

Before I thought you were retarded. Now I think you have aspergers. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between, because if you associate jest with rage, then you're emotionally crippled.

Yes, I can't GUARANTEE it but going by all of their past accomplishments as I watched them go from Zero to HERO, I can definitely asses that their next project will be one of quality. And as I said before, they've been creating MMO worlds already for years, so this will be a VERY smooth transition. You just are so biased against MMO's that it doesn't even matter any more, you're just here to whine and tell the world how much you hate MMO's. So be it, the world could always use a negative Nancy like yourself. Women love that, right? Oh, no, maybe that's why you're so desperate for a blow job. Hahaha. Owned. Maybe that's why $60 dollars is a lot of money to you because you "blow" it all on, well, things that blow you.... sigh... probably so. But back on topic here: You hate vanilla TES games, and you hate MMO's. So your opinion is already largely bias and negative. I am NOT trying to convince u to buy this game, but for people like me out there who have faith in Bethesda and TES games, there is PLENTY of reason to assume that TESO will raise the bar in the MMO world.


Well, fortunately for me, I don't come in here to play a popularity contest. I'm guessing that's why you've wasted so much of your time in these forums, because your fake friends online friends pretend to like you. Hahaha. What happens when shit gets real? What happens when you go to jail for being the john that you are, will your fake friends bail you out? It's a sad fate indeed... And I'd recommend they start tolerating me because I'm not going any where and I'm not changing for any body ;-). It's better to be either loved or hated, instead of just there, existing frivolously.

Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true. They haven't been creating an mmo world. They've been creating a single player experience, and it works well as that. If you were to throw 1000 people into Skyrim right now, it'd be a shitty game. A really, really shitty game. It's because you're alone that it works so well. Co-op would even work to an extent. But the kinds of numbers associated with mmos far exceeds anything they prepared for with their previous games. So stop saying its basically a single player mmo. It isn't. Also, you keep saying the landscapes were high def, but you played the game on a console so you're absolutely wrong. It looks like shit on a console, and it looks like shit on medium settings. You haven't experienced Skyrim in all its glory. Again, because you aren't a fan. You're a bandwagoner.
You certainly aren't here to engage in coherent discussion, so it makes sense that you wouldn't be here to make a friend or two, either. You're here to unleash....what is that term you keep using....your nerd rage, I think it was. Yes. Nerd rage. Because you're a paper tiger.

Wrong. It's not about the kindness of their hearts. It's about their PASSION to create amazing games. I know the word PASSION eludes you because your life and career surely lack it so I couldn't possibly expect you to understand. But people who LOVE what they do would continue doing it even if it DIDN'T pay (but they'd have other jobs of course). Just like the ESF team. They enjoy working on this project, expect no money in exchange, but they are STILL making an amazing game and we ALL get to benefit from their passion for their project. (Man, I really brought it home on that one!) P.S. when Diomedes runs out of clean things to say he starts spewing out insults like an old water spicket spews out rust. It's really sad how you can say crap like that and your mind still allows you to think you're superior to ANYONE. LOL!

Yeah, there's no passion in my line of work. What is it I do again, exactly?
The rest of that paragraph is conjecture on your part and has absolutely zero bearing on reality. Much like everything you say.

The spicket is spewing out rust again :-/ sigh.... We'll have to wait and come back later when this useless thing cleans itself up.

So...no comment, then? Figured as much. I'll give you more time, what with you being slow on the uptake and all.


Ahh, the ole "You can't spell" insult has been tossed around since Emailing was invented. It lacks punch, kind of like your arguments. My arguments have more punch than a black kid's birthday party. But anyways, black on topic here, I think the Bethesda team is large enough and intelligent enough to come up with an idea that works. The reason they didn't implement it is because they gave you 150+ hours worth of content with 45+ cubic miles of GORGEOUS High Def landscapes and a massive lore that would take you a year to read plus more weapons and armor than your coffers could ever carry AND more abilities than you'd EVER need to conquer the lands of Skyrim. There is a TON of content here, so to actually EXPECT more from them is disrespectful. don't you think if they were in it for the money they could have whipped together some ultra-crappy online mode? They wouldn't DO that because they RESPECT and LOVE their project. So, with all of this said, I'm declaring this a sweeping victory for yours truly ;-) P.S. It's hilarious how you're trying to branch this focused argument in all kinds of wild directions because you know you can't win here. Hahaha... and you're referring to Chinese spies/hackers aren't you? Please, keep this on subject.

It was an example of you living in a glass house, and attempting to throw stones. Again, this point eluded you. King of hilarious, actually, considering your interactions with Horatio, where you'll focus on spelling like the pedantic ass that you are. The words been thrown around a lot in this thread, but you most certainly are a hypocrite.

Oh, it's 150 hours of content. Not 100. The game actually continues creating content while you're not playing it. Pretty amazing. But you completely ignored the point you were attempting to, and failing to, argue, which was they wouldn't be creating a match making system from scrap, since there are so many already in place to pick and choose from. Keep ignoring it though. You tend to do that when you can't come up with a retort.

One of many examples of a disconnect between us. We'll never see eye to eye. But go ahead I encourage you to steal and rehash more of my insults, after all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

And again, ignoring the point, which was you lack reading comprehension skills, as made even more evident by your ability to even address the issues at hand.


Embraced by them yes, to do anything else would be censorship which would be downright blasphemous. But you still miss my point, in using Skyrim in it's PUREST form as a means to asses the company's future successes as developers. You're like a talking train that won't stay on the rails. Absolutely useless in an argument. Lol.

Do you not know what embrace even means? I mean, granted, you were never embraced as a child due to your mental deficiencies, and physical deformities, but its still something you should know. On topic, you haven't experienced Skyrim as it was meant to be experienced. And you don't seem to care to, either, because...why? That's right, Billy! Because you're a bandwagoner!

Billy, never in my years have I met someone who could write so much, and say so little. I'm impressed with just how devoid of rational thought you can be.

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Just an FYI, Skyrim is 16 square miles, or about 41 square kilometers. You aren't even citing accurate numbers.

 

[BlueSaiyan]

Teased in high school? Nose in the books? No friends? Nerd rage? Mein Gott! This is a level of projecting I havent seen since the days of Phobius! Listen, Billy. While you were going to high school, and being a genetic failure, I was out working, educating myself, and becoming the perfect physical specimen. Man boobs? While I'm honing my body into the perfect killing machine every morning, you're looking into the mirror with vacant eyes, combing your neckbeard, adjusting your fedora and declaring yourself dashing. But being a God amongst men requires more than just a chiseled body, Billy. It requires a sound mind with a sharp intellect. And so I read books. This concept is obviously beyond your comprehension. Why would anyone read a book if they're not in school, right? Because, Billy, some of us aren't diabetic TES fanatics whose lives are defined by video games. Some of us like to dabble in all kinds of things. Some of us enjoy reading a good book. Hell, last deployment I managed to read a whopping 65 books. That's pretty good considering I was busy doing man things most of the time. But you know what, Billy? Books aren't for you. Keep reading TES lore found in virtual books scattered throughout your world. If it's longer than 10 pages, it simply isn't for you.

Haha, well myself being a boxer in high school running 3 miles a day and being so toned that women would break their necks to look at my pecks, I guess I can pretend like we've got that much in common, giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can do that, because I'm secure enough to be the bigger man here. I've even had a female officer who insisted on complimenting my physique. Also, I read books for knowledge not for pleasure. I feel a sense of accomplishment when I learn things which are actually useful. But the way you speak and reference really oddball story books just reeks of 'Geek' to me and anyone else who's got the misfortune of being within ear shot as you spout this nonsense. Why don't you read a book on how to pick up chicks? Do they make those?

And no, I'm not a TES fanatic by any means. Just because I'll argue in favor of my point, which I know to be correct, doesn't make me a fanatic fanboy. I'd argue this adamently about anything which I know to be true.

"HEY GUYS I DONT KNOW HOW MODS AFFECT SKYRIM BECAUSE IM RIDICULOUSLY SLOW-WITTED BUT LET'S MOVE ON SO I CAN NOT MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT" That's all I'm seeing when you evade the question regarding mods, which serve only to add to the content already found within the game.

If you think there are 100 hours of content to be found in Skyrim, that's great. I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. But back to people arguing about things with which they have no experience, you should probably never talk about Skyrim, modding, or really anything ever again, because you're observably ill-informed and just about everything you've tried to argue about thus far. Also, you using DBZ references and Skyrim references to make real world arguments is about the most neckbearded thing you can do, which only makes it more evident that you were projecting in your initial paragraph. Go outside once and while. Go for a run. Work out a little bit. It's good for you. Stop living your life through a jacked video game character.

I absolutely do know how mods affect Skyrim. Sigh. It's not a hard concept to grasp. There's big mods and there's small mods. Total conversions, and minor tweaks. I evade no questions, though I do try to focus on those with which there might be some purpose to arguing about.You can continue believing that there's not over 100 hours worth of content, (which there is and I've seen it myself), but I know you to be incorrect. You're insane to be arguing this adamently about an ASSUMPTION you have.

And no, I wasn't projecting. When I was in Job Corps I used to run 3.5 miles a day, go eat protein and chocolate milk, come back and lift weights. There were no video games, and I play none right now aside from occasionally Minecraft. But there was a time when I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to experience a few amazing titles. Batman Arkham Asylum/City is another amazing franchise, but unlike you I'll try not to divert this topic too much in to meaningless directions.

The comment about burritos had to do with a fat guy who lived in his mom's basement where I stayed briefly while I was in highschool and he'd only come up from there to microwave some burritos and go back down to his lair. And the nerd thing? Who doesn't know what a nerd is.. Lol. They become haters, like yourself. Nobody who is doing well in life AND secure with themselves becomes a hater.

What in the hell are you talking about? Most of the games I buy, I buy on release. Are you confusing me with Dark again? Because that'd be the second time. Again, this goes back to you having a learning disability. Making a mistake once is fine. Making the same exact mistake twice is a little concerning. Keep talking about nerd rage, though. You seem to be well-versed in it.

Oh okay, after re-reading it I see it was just you console bashing which is one of the oldest nerd beefs in the books. Nerds saying PC > ALL, except they neglect to factor in how isolated one is when sitting at his computer playing a game alone as opposed to chillin on your couch with a controller in your hand with friends or a girlfriend, enjoying a game on a 42'' 1080p HDTV.

I lack objective because I don't think the game has 100 hours of content? Right. I've seen more of the game, played more of the game and for longer. If anything, I should be the one arguing there was that much content. But, you know, there really isn't.

No, you lack objective because you can't stick to the arguments at hand. You spin it in all sorts of wacky directions like an amateur boxer who flails his arms in a desperate attempt to land a punch. Hahaha. Like I said before, there definitely is easily over 100 hours worth of Vanilla content and so if you choose to simply NOT BELIEVE ME then this argument can go no further. I have first hand experience, and all you have are your assumptions. I can say without a fraction of doubt in my mind that you're wrong, but you'll never believe me so there's nothing left to talk about here. It's simply you refusing to believe there's a possibility that you're wrong. It's sad, really.

You should stop making analogies because they've all been terrible. Fact of the matter is, you don't know anything about Skyrim. That much has been made clear by your statements so far. You're not a fan. You're a bandwagoner. That's alright. You're exactly like 90% of the gaming community out there.

My analogies are good. You're inclined to say everything I do is terrible, because you're extremely biased against me at this point. And let me also throw this out there too: When I played Oblivion on the PC version i DID mod it. But, when I got SKYRIM, I saw no need to. It was already perfect for me. I could recognize a good game when I saw it. You, however, have irreversibly fried your neurons to the point where you've become nothing more than this jaded shell of a man.

There is absolutely no way you played Skyrim for 100 hours and think the characters are unique or even interesting. Hell, the voice acting alone should have destroyed your immersion. Also, you keep saying objectivity, but you clearly have no idea what you're saying because you're grouping it with uppercase letters over and over again, and it isn't making any sense. Go ahead and look up the word, and then when you're done educating yourself, come back and say what you intended to say, and not what you actually said.

Do I hate mmos as a rule? Yes. Have I made exceptions? Yes. Why? Because they've been different, either in terms of gameplay or theme or perhaps just the community. As I stated, and as you ignored, I played CoH/CoV for a long time. That's an mmo, btw. If TES is supposed to draw in the the mmo crowd, thats one thing. But if they want to reach a larger crowd, well, guess who's part of that crowd. Me. So unless they do something new and exciting to differentiate this fantasy game from every other fantasy game out there, to differentiate itself from Skyrim, then I'm not interested. Simply being an Elder Scrolls game is enough to catch my attention, but not enough to make me part ways with my hard-earned money. Again, mommy and daddy pay for everything, so that isn't a concern for you.

Lol, the fact that you'd state what I did or didn't do in an ABSOLUTE and FACTUAL manner is hilarious. You've not got a leg to stand on. You've managed to rehash my jabs at your reading comprehension, yet you continue to claim that what I've said makes no sense. By the way, CoH is in my opinion TERRIBLE compared to SW:TOR. Our taste in games is too far apart to meet in the middle. We're on opposite ends of the grand canyon. Just accept it, and move on. I have. And for you to say "Mommy and daddy pay for everything" for me is absolutely hilarious. I didn't grow up with my father, and I could no longer live with my mother by age 11. So, hahaha, put your foot back in your mouth kid. Spoiled.. brat... that's you.

Before I thought you were retarded. Now I think you have aspergers. I'm sure the truth is somewhere in between, because if you associate jest with rage, then you're emotionally crippled.

Bla, bla, bla, more generic insults with zero truth and no affect.

Saying the same thing over and over again doesn't make it true. They haven't been creating an mmo world. They've been creating a single player experience, and it works well as that. If you were to throw 1000 people into Skyrim right now, it'd be a shitty game. A really, really shitty game. It's because you're alone that it works so well. Co-op would even work to an extent. But the kinds of numbers associated with mmos far exceeds anything they prepared for with their previous games. So stop saying its basically a single player mmo. It isn't. Also, you keep saying the landscapes were high def, but you played the game on a console so you're absolutely wrong. It looks like shit on a console, and it looks like shit on medium settings. You haven't experienced Skyrim in all its glory. Again, because you aren't a fan. You're a bandwagoner.
You certainly aren't here to engage in coherent discussion, so it makes sense that you wouldn't be here to make a friend or two, either. You're here to unleash....what is that term you keep using....your nerd rage, I think it was. Yes. Nerd rage. Because you're a paper tiger.

They have experience creating (stunningly I might add) ENOURMOUS maps holding hundreds of NPCs and DOZENS of dungeons and randomely generated loot, armor/weapon tiers, crafting systems, mounts, and more! THE WORKS! So with that considered, the point I've chosen to make is that their leap in to the world of MMO design will be a smooth transition for them, because as it's as if they've been training for this moment their entire careers. I hope you think of me when you subscribe for your first month. Also, playing on a PS3 with a 42'' HDTV (that mommy didn't buy for me) in 720p certainly does constitute HD. Sure, it wasn't 1080p, but man it looks amazing on my T.V. regardless. Let's not get all elitist in the graphics department all of a sudden. Sure, PC will always have the best graphics(I know because I played it on PC briefly), but the level at which I experienced it was still amazing. I STILL chose to play on the PS3 over playing it on the PC for numerous reasons. And you saying "It looks like shit on console" just reminds me of why I called you a spoiled brat in the first place. I think that's what initially ticked you off so much. It must be true. Oh and thank you for rehashing some more of my insults, your flattery will be the death of me ^_^ .

Yeah, there's no passion in my line of work. What is it I do again, exactly?
The rest of that paragraph is conjecture on your part and has absolutely zero bearing on reality. Much like everything you say.

You've totally chosen to run away from what I said entirely. Here, let me say it again to illustrate my point: "People who LOVE what they do would continue doing it even if it DIDN'T pay (but they'd have other jobs of course). Just like the ESF team. They enjoy working on this project, expect no money in exchange, but they are STILL making an amazing game and we ALL get to benefit from their passion for their project. (Man, I really brought it home on that one!)" The money is certainly a BONUS for Bethesda, but it is not their SOLE motivation to create something amazing. Those guys are already rich.

So...no comment, then? Figured as much. I'll give you more time, what with you being slow on the uptake and all.

I guess now you'd like to argue about your misuse of the forum codes.... Lol, that's frivilous and if you'd like to keep on doing it the wrong way then by all means go ahead.

It was an example of you living in a glass house, and attempting to throw stones. Again, this point eluded you. King of hilarious, actually, considering your interactions with Horatio, where you'll focus on spelling like the pedantic ass that you are. The words been thrown around a lot in this thread, but you most certainly are a hypocrite.

Oh, it's 150 hours of content. Not 100. The game actually continues creating content while you're not playing it. Pretty amazing. But you completely ignored the point you were attempting to, and failing to, argue, which was they wouldn't be creating a match making system from scrap, since there are so many already in place to pick and choose from. Keep ignoring it though. You tend to do that when you can't come up with a retort.

My spelling is fine. It's a waste of time to talk about it. I didn't even bother pointing out errors that I saw in your writing because I don't CARE unless it's funny. I'll make a joke if I find it amusing in a certain context, but I'm by no means a Spelling/Grammar nazi. People are free to express themselves how they wish and I do the same.


Also, 150+, 100+, they both apply. I went with 100 as the absolute easiest number to defend which is what motivated me to continue this argument for as long as I have while I listened to you pour your heart out in attempts to defend an assumption with no solid foundation.

And again, ignoring the point, which was you lack reading comprehension skills, as made even more evident by your ability to even address the issues at hand.

I've addressed all issues. Even the pointless ones. But some times it takes a yank on the collar to get a dog to walk in a straight line again. Sad that I had to treat you that way.

Do you not know what embrace even means? I mean, granted, you were never embraced as a child due to your mental deficiencies, and physical deformities, but its still something you should know. On topic, you haven't experienced Skyrim as it was meant to be experienced. And you don't seem to care to, either, because...why? That's right, Billy! Because you're a bandwagoner!

Aww isn't that cute guys? He's created an imaginary friend named Billy to keep him company while he plays a Frankenstein Skyrim alone at his computer. (someone grab a butterfly net). Come here Dio, walk in to the back of the white van with the red cross on it so we can go get Ice Cream together. ^_^

All jokes aside, yes I know the meaning of the word embrace. Modding is a sign that interest in their game is continously being revived, so why WOULDN'T they embrace it? It's an effort to change a game in order to add more replayability for those who've already grown tired of it. I experienced an amazing game, because I still have the neurons in my brain which would allow me to do so. You call me a bandwagoner, because you like to mod your games, but the truth is that you're like a prostitute who's been f****d too many times and can no longer achieve an orgasm. HAHAHAHA.



P.S. Somebody doesn't know what Cubic in math means. Oh dear. Put down the story books and brush up on some real knowledge, you intellectual lightweight. Oh and in regards to all of your generic insults.. They slide off me like water to a rock, because they bear no truths. I'm a logical think-tank.

After all's been said and done, I feel like I went SSJ in my last post, and now, fighting a fatigued frieza seems frivolous to me. I've already secured the victory. I'm not even declaring it any more, because it's old news. I hope you live with the shame and keep it bottled up inside you, silently. This is me, flying away from a fruitless battle, victorious... And then there is you, who unfortunately refuses to admit his own defeat: [video=youtube;SfKvBiepfg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfKvBiepfg4[/video]

Isn't it hilarious how Frieza's insults and yours are so similar? Calling me stupid so many times? And the way he thinks of himself as God? HAHAHAHAHHAHA. Ahhh, i've just made my own day. I think I'm gonna go to the store and grab a beer. I've earned it.

I hope your henchmen Have fun fighting over the scraps, and convincing themselves that their poor leader somehow won. Whatever it takes to preserve your egos.

 

[Horatio]

Okay, first off, it's obvious tha-*aneurism*

 

[EndreVanan]

I come back to this thread and see nothing but BlueSaiyan autofellating for another three pages.

 

[Zeonix]

Haha, well myself being a boxer in high school running 3 miles a day and being so toned that women would break their necks to look at my pecks, I guess I can pretend like we've got that much in common, giving you the benefit of the doubt. I can do that, because I'm secure enough to be the bigger man here. I've even had a female officer had to compliment my physique. Also, I read books for knowledge not for pleasure. I feel a sense of accomplishment when I learn things which are actually useful. But the way you speak and reference really oddball story books just reeks of 'Geek' to me and anyone else who's got the misfortune of being within ear shot as you spout this nonsense. Why don't you read a book on how to pick up chicks? Do they make those?

3 whole miles? What are you? A machine?! Please, when your 10 mile run time is an hour, we'll talk. Boxing aside (a sport literally everyone in my neighborhood takes up when growing up), I remain unimpressed as my level of physical fitness far surpasses yours. When you're buddy rushing with 60 lbs of gear, closing with and destroying the enemy by fire and maneuver and repelling enemy assault with fire and close quarters combat, and you've stared into the abyss and made it blink, we can begin to speak to one another as equals. Until such time, you're so ridiculously far beneath me physically that it'd be laughable if it wasn't so sad that you think you're in shape. Hell, you brought up high school. Way to peak, kiddo.

In regard to books, I don't know that I can explain the value or knowledge inherit to them. Especially not to someone like you. If you don't get it now, you never will. That's why you're reliving your glory days from high school while flipping burgers.

And no, I'm not a TES fanatic by any means. Just because I'll argue in favor of my point, which I know to be correct, doesn't make me a fanatic fanboy. I'd argue this adamently about anything which I know to be true.

What is your point, anyway?

I absolutely do know how mods affect Skyrim. Sigh. It's not a hard concept to grasp. There's big mods and there's small mods. Total conversions, and minor tweaks. I evade no questions, though I do try to focus on those with which there might be some purpose to arguing about.You can continue believing that there's not over 100 hours worth of content, (which there is and I've seen it myself), but I know you to be incorrect. You're insane to be arguing this adamently about an ASSUMPTION you have.

See, you just told me what you think mods are, and you're still completely and utterly wrong. You have absolutely no idea what TES modding community consists of, what theyre capable of, what they've added, what they've fixed, what they've changed or altered or improved. You simply do not know, and yet you insist on opening your fat neckbeard mouth. And then I'm somehow insane for a) playing the game longer than you and to a much greater degree on a system that actually shows what the game is capable of and b) arriving at a different conclusion based on that far more comprehensive experience. I'd pull the "pot, meet kettle" card, but you're so far removed from reality that I can't bear to compare you to me in that regard.

And no, I wasn't projecting. When I was in Job Corps I used to run 3.5 miles a day, go eat protein and chocolate milk, come back and lift weights. There were no video games, and I play none right now aside from occasionally Minecraft. But there was a time when I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to experience a few amazing titles. Batman Arkham Asylum/City is another amazing franchise, but unlike you I'll try not to divert this topic too much in to meaningless directions.

The job corps?! Mother of God! You're basically Leonidas! Ahaahaha. Get out of here. 3.5 miles a day, again, is garbage. And then you down a scoop and drink some chocolate milk and then....LIFT WEIGHTS. Man, comprehensive as ****. Bro, you must be super jacked. Teach me how to be a fitness god like you.

Anyway, I wake up at 0300, run at 70% for an hour, do whatever routine I have for the day (back and bi's monday, chest and tris tuesday, shoulders and legs wednesday, and then crossfit shit thursday and friday; I run 4 times a week, and I do abs every other day). Then I go to work at 0600, day ends at around 1600. Plenty of time for socializing, playing games or whatever the hell I feel like. Time management is key. When I deploy, it's basically down time until its go time.

The comment about burritos had to do with a fat guy who lived in his mom's basement where I stayed briefly while when I was in highschool and he'd only come up from there to microwave some burritos and go back down to his lair. And the nerd thing? Who doesn't know what a nerd is.. Lol. They become haters, like yourself. Nobody who is doing well in life AND secure with themselves becomes a hater.

Neither here nor there, like most of your comments followed by a blanket statement disproved by personal experience. Formulaic, unimaginative and completely and utterly wrong. Though I certainly don't fall into the nerd category, I would venture to say a good portion of the community here does, so you're not insulting me. You're just insulting the forum. But then, you're not here to make friends.

Oh okay, after re-reading it I see it was just you console bashing which is one of the oldest nerd beefs in the books. Nerds saying PC > ALL, except they neglect to factor in how isolated one is when sitting at his computer playing a game alone as opposed to chillin on your couch with a controller in your hand with friends or a girlfriend, enjoying a game on a 42'' 1080p HDTV.

Console bashing? Are you going to argue that the PC version of Skyrim isn't graphically superior to the console version? Is that really the line in the sand you want to draw? And hell, have you never heard of an hdmi cable? My laptop is connected to my television, for all the world to see, while I play whatever games or watch whatever movies or television shows I want. It's exactly what the X1 is attempting to mirror. But back to you being wrong, are you sure you want to take the position that the console version of Skyrim is equal to Skyrim on Ultra? Please say yes.

No, you lack objective because you can't stick to the arguments at hand. You spin it in all sorts of wacky directions like an amateur boxer who flails his arms in a desperate attempt to land a punch. Hahaha. Like I said before, there definitely is easily over 100 hours worth of Vanilla content and so if you choose to simply NOT BELIEVE ME then this argument can go no further. I have first hand experience, and all you have are your assumptions. I can say without a fraction of doubt in my mind that you're wrong, but you'll never believe me so there's nothing left to talk about here. It's simply you refusing to believe there's a possibility that you're wrong. It's sad, really.
Do you know what objectivity even means? Because it seems like you're just throwing words out there to bolster your argument, but those words have no relation to what you're saying in any context. You're like the Boxer-turned-MMA fighter who's so used to fighting with his hands that when someone throws a kick his world explodes and he has no idea what to do. A much better metaphor than yours, to be sure. If you can't keep up with what I'm dishing, and need to focus on solely one topic, just ask. I get bored with you, so I expand our arguments. Hell, just look at your first paragraph. You're talking about running a measily 3 miles like anyone gives a shit. You're as eager to eat the bait as I am to supply it.

My analogies are good. You're inclined to say everything I do is terrible, because you're extremely biased against me at this point. And let me also throw this out there too: When I played Oblivion on the PC version i DID mod it. But, when I got SKYRIM, I saw no need to. It was already perfect for me. I could recognize a good game when I saw it. You, however, have irreversibly fried your neurons to the point where you've become nothing more than this jaded shell of a man.

The arguments you make are surpassed in idiocy only by your analogies. You disagree, and that's fine. But really, it's third party perspective that matters, and I don't know that too many people would side with you when it comes to your analogies holding their water. Because they don't. Also, Oblivion was pretty bland and empty even with mods. Not as bad as daggerfall, but it was bad enough that Bethesda saw it necessary to retain the size of the map, but increase the volume of content to make it seem less empty. That said, Skyrim wasn't perfect. IT was far from it, and that's a good thing. Because that means they'll try to improve the formula rather than remain stagnant. Insults are easier than coherent arguments, however, so you'll resort to them every time.

Lol, the fact that you'd state what I did or didn't do in an ABSOLUTE and FACTUAL manner is hilarious. You've not got a leg to stand on. You've managed to rehash my jabs at your reading comprehension, yet you continue to claim that what I've said makes no sense. By the way, CoH is in my opinion TERRIBLE compared to SW:TOR. Our taste in games is too far apart to meet in the middle. We're on opposite ends of the grand canyon. Just accept it, and move on. I have. And for you to say "Mommy and daddy pay for everything" for me is absolutely hilarious. I didn't grow up with my father, and I could no longer live with my mother by age 11. So, hahaha, put your foot back in your mouth kid. Spoiled.. brat... that's you.

First, did you think the voice acting was great? Second, did you really think the characters were interesting and not vapid shells? Because if the answer to either question is yes, you're wrong. It isn't even an opinion at this point.

As for us having different opinions, I'm impressed it only took you 30 pages to figure that out (Disclaimer: 30 pages is an example of me being hyperbolic). Had you moved on, this conversation would have ended long ago. You haven't. As for your mommy issues, I could not care less if I tried with every fiber of my being. Congrats, you're like everyone in a 50 mile radius of where I grew up. You had it better than most. Stop crying about it.

Bla, bla, bla, more generic insults with zero truth and no affect.

And completely missing the point once again.

They have experience creating (stunningly I might add) ENOURMOUS maps holding hundreds of NPCs and DOZENS of dungeons and randomely generated loot, armor/weapon tiers, crafting systems, mounts, and more! THE WORKS! So with that considered, the point I've chosen to make is that their leap in to the world of MMO design will be a smooth transition for them, because as it's as if they've been training for this moment their entire careers. I hope you think of me when you subscribe for your first month. Also, playing on a PS3 with a 42'' HDTV (that mommy didn't buy for me) in 720p certainly does constitute HD. Sure, it wasn't 1080p, but man it looks amazing on my T.V. regardless. Let's not get all elitist in the graphics department all of a sudden. Sure, PC will always have the best graphics(I know because I played it on PC briefly), but the level at which I experienced it was still amazing. I STILL chose to play on the PS3 over playing it on the PC for numerous reasons. And you saying "It looks like shit on console" just reminds me of why I called you a spoiled brat in the first place. I think that's what initially ticked you off so much. It must be true. Oh and thank you for rehashing some more of my insults, your flattery will be the death of me ^_^ .

You know what? I'll concede that one point. It seems a broken clock truly is right twice a day. As for calling the textures in Skyrim hd, well, you're wrong. Especially if you're talking about the Skyrim when it first came out. That's why Bethesda released a high resolution texture pack. And that pack was still inferior to the texture packs made by joe schmos across the internet for the Skyrim Nexus and elsewhere. You've yet to experience what Skyrim is capable of. I'm sorry that it looks like shit on consoles. It isn't your fault that you can't connect your desktop to your tv. Someone failed you, and robbed you of the opportunity to cultivate critical thinking skills. Don't worry. Momma bird is here. Get under my wing baby bird.

You've totally chosen to run away from what I said entirely. Here, let me say it again to illustrate my point: "People who LOVE what they do would continue doing it even if it DIDN'T pay (but they'd have other jobs of course). Just like the ESF team. They enjoy working on this project, expect no money in exchange, but they are STILL making an amazing game and we ALL get to benefit from their passion for their project. (Man, I really brought it home on that one!)" The money is certainly a BONUS for Bethesda, but it is not their SOLE motivation to create something amazing. Those guys are already rich.

Bethesda is a business. The people who work for them are employees. If they made pennies for doing what they love at Bethesda, they'd find a job elsewhere. Because, like it or not, money makes the world go round. Do you have any idea how much money goes into making a game like Skyrim? Do you really think they don't expect to make that money back? Have you learned nothing from the demise of THQ? The guys at ESF? They already have jobs. If they didn't ESF would be in stasis. And hell, these guys loooooove ESF, and it's still taken over a decade to get this far, a point you've made several times. This is a hobby to them. And if ESF weren't using dbz characters, you can bet your ass they'd be accepting donations. If you think the guys working at Bethesda are rich, you're both wholly disconnected from reality and completely misinformed.

I guess now you'd like to argue about your misuse of the forum codes.... Lol, that's frivilous and if you'd like to keep on doing it the wrong way then by all means go ahead.

Do you even know what you're addressing? Because a) you're the one complaining about me responding in quotes, and b) you completely evaded the topic again.

My spelling is fine. It's a waste of time to talk about it. I didn't even bother pointing out errors that I saw in your writing because I don't CARE unless it's funny. I'll make a joke if I find it amusing in a certain context, but I'm by no means a Spelling/Grammar nazi. People are free to express themselves how they wish and I do the same.

Annnnnd you're dense. It isn't about your spelling. It's about how you'll correct someone for something while at the same time failing at something else. It's hypocritical, and its moronic. Is the concept of a glass house too high brow for you? Or is that something found only in super obscure books like Of Mice and Men (seriously?).

Also, 150+, 100+, they both apply. I went with 100 as the absolute easiest number to defend which is what motivated me to continue this argument for as long as I have while I listened to you pour your heart out in attempts to defend an assumption with no solid foundation.

In other words, you're pulling numbers out of your ass because you simply don't know, but you won't let ignorance get in the way of opening your mouth. Gotcha.

I've addressed all issues. Even the pointless ones. But some times it takes a yank on the collar to get a dog to walk in a straight line again. Sad that I had to treat you that way.

And evaded again.

Aww isn't that cute guys? He's created in imaginary friend named Billy to keep him company while he plays a Frankenstein Skyrim alone at his computer. (someone grab a butterfly net). Come here Dio, walk in to the back of the white van with the red cross on it so we can go get Ice Cream together. ^_^

This goes back to your problem with reading comprehension, a dead horse by now to say the least. And of course, rather than say anything of merit or actually address the topic, you've chosen to create a new topic because...wait a minute....

"because you can't stick to the arguments at hand. You spin it in all sorts of wacky directions like an amateur boxer who flails his arms in a desperate attempt to land a punch."

Holy shit, you really are projecting. Amazing.

All jokes aside, yes I know the meaning of the word embrace. Modding is a sign that interest in their game is continously being revived, so why WOULDN'T they embrace it? It's an effort to change a game in order to add more replayability for those who've already grown tired of it. I experienced an amazing game, because I still have the neurons in my brain which would allow me to do so. You call me a bandwagoner, because you like to mod your games, but the truth is that you're like a prostitute who's been f****d too many times and can no longer achieve an orgasm. HAHAHAHA.

ERRR. Wrong. I didn't say they embraced every mod out there. I said they embraced the mods I was using. Meaning out of the thousands of mods out there, they pointed to the few and said, "Yep, that's awesome and we'd have done it had we thought of it". Egosoft does the same thing, except they take it a step further. They find the mods they really like, and holy shit, add it to their game. And then they hire the person/people responsible for the mod. Because they no shit care about the community and value good ideas.

P.S. Somebody doesn't know what Cubic in math means. Oh dear. Put down the story books and brush up on some real knowledge, you intellectual lightweight. Oh and in regards to all of your generic insults.. They slide off me like water to a rock, because they bear no truths. I'm a logical think-tank.

After all's been said and done, I feel like I went SSJ in my last post, and now, fighting a fatigued frieza seems frivolous to me. I've already secured the victory. I'm not even declaring it any more, because it's old news. I hope you live with the shame and keep it bottled up inside you, silently. This is me, flying away from a fruitless battle, victorious... And then there is you, who unfortunately refuses to admit his own defeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfKvBiepfg4

Isn't it hilarious how Frieza's insults and yours as so similar? Calling me stupid so many times? And the way he thinks of himself as God? HAHAHAHAHHAHA. Ahhh, i've just made my own day. I think I'm gonna go to the store and grab a beer. I've earned it.

I hope your henchmen Have fun fighting over the scraps, and convincing themselves that their poor leader somehow won. Whatever it takes to preserve your egos.

I'd just like to take a moment that at this point, Billy, a boy who has called people angry nerds, a boy who's neckbeard is surpassed only by the size of the chip on his shoulder, is using dbz to make arguments. We first saw this before, when he referred to someone as Yajirobe. It was a little disgusting, but bearable. But now, he's done the impossible.

He's gone full retard.