First off, let's start with your last statement:
Zero effort, huh? Then I imagine your responses won't exactly be elaborate nor thought-invoking... I'm going to GUESS there's going to be some childish insults here? Well, let's see!.....
There's childish brain-dead jargon comment #1!..... let's see if we can find any more half-assed attempts in your abilities to argue with a mentally stable adult....
I guess the allusion to Of Mice and Men flew right over your Cuckoos Nest. To be expected when dealing with an opossum.
But how would you know? You've never even attempted it. It most certainly did take over 100 hours for me to experience much of the content and that's WHILE I used Fast Travel liberally. You sure you really know how many dungeons and side quests there are in this game? There is WELL over 100 hours of content in this game. And by content we're talking about Main quest, side quests, crafting, and Dragon Killing to acquire new shouts, right? And that's not even a complete list of the content available by any means. But you never experienced it so how could anyone expect you to know? It's just funny that you'd insist on arguing over it. Like a virgin coaching me on getting laid.
You keep making these statements, and I'm not entirely sure why. Do you know what modding Skyrim does? Because it sounds like you think its replacing content rather than existing parallel to it. An easy mistake to make when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. As previously stated, and as previously ignored, I've put in over 200 hours. Most of that was simply me meandering about. I could have completed most of the game short of crafting, which was the most boring aspect to me, well under 60 hours and still have time to visit my floating airship. Oh wait, you don't have one of those because you think Skyrim belongs on a console.
Lol, I'm not disputing the potential fun that mods bring to the table, but don't lie... You prefer to wait a year because you can't afford a $60 game. I get it. You commented yourself earlier about how $60 dollars is a lot of money. But anyways, I've got the game on both actually but I much preferred to play it on the console so I could relax on my couch and play it with my girlfriend, because vanilla certainly provided a great deal of entertainment for me. So why fix what aint broken? The game was a masterpiece. Maybe the pleasure receptors in your brain have burnt out from playing too many games, because we certainly enjoyed Vanilla in my console on an HDTV while sitting on our nice comfy couch for a loooooong time. So, like I said, that's your personal preference if you prefer to Frankenstein the shit out of your games before you experience all of their original content, but don't try and tell me how much content is in the original if you never actually experienced it as extensively as I did.
Uh...you realize Skyrim was 60 bucks on the PC when it came out at the exact same time as on console, right? Which is when I bought it. Does that make a video game worth 60 bucks? **** no. 60 bucks goes a long way. I can eat for a week on 60 bucks. I understand that mommy and daddy provide everything little billy needs because he can't fend for himself, and so he needs to take his aggression out on the internet, but for those of us who, you know, pay pills, sometimes you need to prioritize. Luckily, I make enough money now that I can buy whatever I want and not worry about it, but old habits die hard, and I'd rather pinch my pennies than spend it all just because I can.
We're talking about the original content here. You claim it doesn't offer over 100 hours worth, and I refute that with personal experience. If you don't believe me, that's fine, but how can you truly believe in your own assumption when you've not experienced all of it yourself? Your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.
It's interesting that your argument is I'm wrong, because you experienced 100 hours worth of content, and your opinion is more right than mine. I've played the game more than you, with both the OC and the additional content made available by mods (again, they exist parallel to each other and wont overwrite unless you want it to, like in the way of graphic mods). This point alludes you for no reason other than you're being an idiot and refuse to change your mind on anything. Also, you experienced the worst possible version of Skyrim, so whatever.
Who the hell cares or knows what the "Redwall" series is? Way to pull that unrelated reference out of your ass. But anyways, back to our main subject here.. I DID indeed find much of the dialogue and side quests to be very entertaining, diverse, and unique. They made the world feel ALIVE and interesting. It always kept things fresh for me. And no, I won't be playing The Witcher, I'm not at all fond of it's combat system. Also, my analogy was and still is perfect but it all boils down to a matter of personal opinion. The rest of the game was not "Fluff" and such a generalization has scary undertones at your ability to perceive things as a whole. The reason I say that, is because most of the game truly is about experiencing all of the side quests and dungeons. While doing said side quests and dungeons you're able to easily accumulate over 100 played hours in the game. Why would all of this content be there if it was not the REAL meat and bones of this game? Ask yourself that.
Irrelevant? So you'll watch 5 minutes of trailer footage and try to assume the entire game's downward trajectory? Sounds kind of like what you did with Vanilla Skyrim. It's like your thought process is "Let's assume the worst, and not even play the game. Let's put more faith in no-name modders than the original designers. If I can't have no-names drastically altering my game then it's not worth playing." I simply don't agree with it. Our views are different as clearly I enjoy a product which you do not. And just to throw this out there, I don't know how many times I've got to reiterate how little I care about your personal motivations for playing or not playing the game. Go on being pessimistic if you'd like. I'll be optimistic with faith in the team's capabilities for game development.
It's a childrens book. For children. And you're a child. And your ability to determine a good narrative from a mediocre one is incredibly suspect at this point so...you know what? It's alright. Barney style. You don't read anything worth reading, so you think Skyrim had a compelling story because your arsenal of stories is limited to shit. Bingo bango. The rest of this paragraph is you still not having a clue as to what modding does to Skyrim. Which is still hilarious, because you have to be a complete moron to think its somehow destroying the game. Not that you are. Well, you might be, but I'm not one to judge. Well, I am. And I have.
I've watched just a tad more than 5 minutes of gameplay footage. It has nothing to do with assuming the worst. It has everything to do with being neutral, rather than an optimistic consumer adamant about throwing his money. If they want my money, they need to prove to me why their product is worth it. They've yet to do that.
Childish brain-dead jargon comment #2! Actually, you missed multiple points in many of the things that I've been saying. I guess it got a little too deep for you to comprehend, philosophically speaking. I really don't see this argument going any where. You can sit there with a closed mind if you'd like, but it doesn't allow much room for this debate to grow. You offer no opinions here. Your only statement basically says "You didn't agree with me, therefore you're stupid". Lol. I find that dissapointing on an intellectual level
Philosophically speaking? Ahahaahha, you can't possibly exist! Are you guys punking me? Am I on a tv show! Aha, you got me guys. Guys? Holy shit, you're this stupid? Mother of God, Billy, how are you still alive?
Childish brain-dead jargon comment #3! I never garunteed the game to be amazing, but I do vouch for it as being highly likely. Their transition in to the MMO world will be one of the easiest one's in the history of online gaming, considering all of their projects prior. Seriously TES games have essentially been putting a single player in to MMO worlds
Lmao, right. "I can't promise its going to be amazing....but it's probably going to be amazing!" Again, if I'm transported into the world and women suck me off all day, you'll have piqued my interest. Until then, its another fantasy mmo with sword and fairies. Hooray.
Yes, it is I who has legions of horny groupies backing ME up in everything I say... Wait, no, that's been you and your fanboys ever since we started this discussion. Part of me wonders if you've got a multiple personality disorder and are just one insane man posting over multiple accounts. That would be hilarious. But that's neither here nor there right now. I just wanted to have a civil debate, but you keep on throwing out the uncreative insults which are essentially rehashes of things I said to you and your groupies earlier. That's the funniest part about it.
It's hilarious, because no one is backing me up. They legitimately don't like you. Several of them are interested in the game, but their disdain for you is putting a bad taste in their mouths, and so its taking some of the shine off the game. Like I said before, the idea that people like you will be playing this game is enough to put me off.
You're proving my point that you don't see the bigger picture here. "They are creators and you are the consumer" is not at all the bigger picture, lol, you are doing exactly what I said you do: you dumb things down because if you delve too deep in to the concepts which I've mentioned, you might find yourself realizing that you're incorrect which scares your ego. That's why I pity you.
The bigger picture is you speaking "philosophically" about these people working really, really hard out of the kindness of their hearts and wanting absolutely nothing in return, right?. Right. So here's the deal, at this point, they could make a half-assed version of a TES game and you'd buy it on reflex. Because you're a consumer. They're selling you a product, you're using your money and spending it on video games. That gives them money, which they spend on other products, ad infinitum, and thats the economy in a nutshell. If you think talking about their artistic spirit means anything, you're high as a kite and about as useless as a football bat. You're literally saying nothing at this point. Words spew forth from your mouth in a river of shit, and frankly, it's getting old.
I missed your post because you've misused the forum codes for quoting. And then there's the irony factor in the fact that you're so lazy that you continue to repeat the things that I said earlier back to me. IE now you've begun declaring victory, LOL!
You missed my post the first time because you've never seen someone do that before. You missed my post the second time because you have a learning disability.
Yeah, because it's just as simple as copy/pasting a few lines of code, right? Your ignorance on the subject of game development is appaling.
Your ignorance on the subject of spelling is appalling. The hardest part is coming up with an idea that works. If you have a blueprint right in front of you, its suddenly a lot easier. That's why China was able to mimic the F-35 so well. Not that you'd know anything about.....well....anything.
There won't be a "TES:O 2" any time within the next 10 years. You brought up the whole "different beasts" thing, didn't you? Yet you claim that theyr next elder scrolls game is going to push this one by the way side? Haha, you didn't really think that through did you?
You're ridiculous. I was talking about Skyrim, your Jesus in a disc, being replaced by the next TES. Reading comprehension, Billy. It's important.
We're talking about two different games here. Mine, the one intended to be played from Bethesda, is the real version. YOURS is the Gumbo version. Yours is just a mash up of player-created content mixed in with the real thing. Mine is the real thing in it's purest form, which allows me to have a better educated opinion on the original game and thus make an educated assessment about Bethesda's future successes as a game developer. I assess that their transition in to the MMO world will be smooth as glass. They've been creating single-player MMO worlds for years. Trust me, for anyone else out there who is wary: They know what they're doing.
That's funny, because the mods I've used were embraced by Bethesda on their forums. But what does Bethesda really know about their vision. You're the Boy Wonder Billy!
