A big "Kamehameha" to Beam Spam: Detailed Idea Inside

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Then that should be fixed too *shakes fist violently*
That's another thing that makes beams lame, having beamers that 100% of the time explode the beam in your face and never getting to powerstruggle :/
Beams should only explode on impact, and maybe right click should release beams.
 
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Heres a suggestion to fix that. A near fully powered beam shouldn't be able to be detonated, but a Beam that is 50% or less can be detonated. So its like

0-50% can be detonated 60-100% can't be detonated.
 
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Shuyin said:
Then that should be fixed too *shakes fist violently*
That's another thing that makes beams lame, having beamers that 100% of the time explode the beam in your face and never getting to powerstruggle :/
Beams should only explode on impact, and maybe right click should release beams.
nope, cause then it would be super spammed,
lets say some1 is psing with a deattached beam
the player who deattached the beam could charge another huge beam and deattach it and so adding it to the ps
that way he will surely win!

same problem exists with using the sbc

besides, exactly the same thing was already suggested and denied



SSJ Shin Carl said:
Heres a suggestion to fix that. A near fully powered beam shouldn't be able to be detonated, but a Beam that is 50% or less can be detonated. So its like

0-50% can be detonated 60-100% can't be detonated.


nope, cause most pplz wouldnt be able to really recognize ingame when they could detonate and when they couldnt
and btw its 51-100 not 60-100 lol but no anyways

since its really hard to find a good working fix that every1 will approove of

lets just let it stay the way it is till the next Einstain will find for us a better solution
 
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I actually like Shin Carl's idea. The beam spam only occurs when it is at full power. Who would want to spam a weak beam? Well, obviously someone but thats not the point. If a beam at 50% or less power were to be detonated, it wouldnt take out 2 or 3 or even 4 people at one shot.

And RoshkoMasta, stop shooting down peoples ideas. Your reasons for doing so are pretty lame.
 
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ssj shin carl: yeah it could work, beam detonation % could easilly be determined by the lines in the charge up bar. would be a little confusing as to why a fully powered beam done less damage than a smaller charged beam on detonation though. I guess instead of doing more damage, the bonus of fully charging is the blast radius, although i really dislike the whole idea of detonations. They encourage not to powerstruggle and are a big part of what makes beams lame.

RoshkoMasta: Detached beams could travel at a slower speed and lose alot of power after they are detached.
-example-
*cell fires a detached kamehameha at goku*
*goku fires an attached kamehameha at cells kamehameha*
*cells detached kamehameha is so much weaker that goku's kamehameha absorbs it like it was a weak beam and continues on target*

This would promote the use of attached beams, as detaching/exploding beams is really only a means of stopping your beam so you may use a different attack or avoid someone, and is not really a means of beam attacking.
 
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Or:
Replace detonating beams with detaching beams and make it so if you already have 1 khh beam flying around detached you can't fire another 1 until it explodes.
 
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SSJ Shin Carl said:
You barely even play the damn game. That is the best fix for the beam spam.
are you talking about me? how can you tell how much I play?

and Im sorry for explaning why ideas shouldnt ... imho

really I am ^~^


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RoshkoMasta: Detached beams could travel at a slower speed and lose alot of power after they are detached.
-example-
*cell fires a detached kamehameha at goku*
*goku fires an attached kamehameha at cells kamehameha*
*cells detached kamehameha is so much weaker that goku's kamehameha absorbs it like it was a weak beam and continues on target*

This would promote the use of attached beams, as detaching/exploding beams is really only a means of stopping your beam so you may use a different attack or avoid someone, and is not really a means of beam attacking.
ermm... so what your suggesting actually is to lower the amount of difference needed between 2 powers for one to "EAT" :p or absobe more currectly the other

if so that idea sounds OK 2 me 2! :cool: :yes:

but ask a team member imo is the best thing... or this idea will die too :(
 
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what about if some 1 loves to blow them selfs up with a big bang attack and nuke about every 1 with him whats the use of haveing a timer if u a suicidle bomber?

i do that when low on heath i dont fear death i love the look on the guys face when useing a kameha at point blank :)
 
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RoshkoMasta said:
  • make another bar which can be charged up very fast, along with the ki bar
    lets say - a STAMINA bar? it charges up real fast
  • every time you use energy attacks both the stamina and ki bar will decrease
    the stamina lets say 4X faster? and the ki 1.5X slower then default(current)
  • if the stamina bar runs out, then the speed the ki bar will decrease will be
    2X faster then the default(current esf beta 1.2.0 speed)
  • this concerns any kind of attack!
  • when you use pure ki and have no stamina, the weapon will charge slower
    and the dmg will be smaller as well.
  • melee will take some stamina too, but very little of it, though as in esf1.2.0 NO KI AT ALL
  • when you are in adv. melee mod the stamina bar wont be recharged, maybe it will
    but if it will then not as fast as it will be regulary!(lets say 3X slower)

I think this would prevent beam spamming and is a better idea then the one
suggested a lot of times to use hp when the ki runs out
similar, but a better one with no hp loss.

lol, i was thinking the same thing...

an automatic stamina meter, so u dont spam ANTHING :D

course, this wont apply to beam struggles :D
 
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What's the problem..?
If you get blown up by a beam you didn't see coming once, you should be even more alert when you respawn..

If you notice that the guy keeps spamming, focus only on him, and kick his ass as long as needed for him to realize he doesn't have the time to stand still and charge beams all the time..

If a player with a huge PL keeps doing it, he would have had to earn this PL first right? So it's not like every noob can effectively beam spam on most servers, and even so, i think that if someone keeps beamspamming there are more than enough ways to stop him from doing so than changing the beam system as it is right now..

So.. no.. can't say i like the idea..
kinda difficult to focus on one player when ur getting side-swiped as u attempt ur revenge. i say improve the targetting with distance and go to normal when up close and personal
 
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the Taliban Effect is a good equalizer.
look at majin vegeta vs fat buu....

leave as is
 

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