whos the best?

[Revenger]

Piccolo ownz ALL and always will.
if they really did the super namek transformation proper for real u all know that he would crush them like bugs. ahahahaha...

 

[ScooterMan]

What super namek formation?
What the hell are you talking about?
He fused with Kami
"Youve all heard of a super saiyan, well piccollo will become a "Super Namek""
Is that what your talking about?
But hes still weaker then all the saiyans.
Or do you mean if Piccollo absorbed every Namek in the universe?
Well then he probably would become the strongest but thats never gonna happen. hes to busy meditating and frowning and sweating and stuff.
No offense to you piccollo fans out there, i like him too (lol driving lessons)
but hes never gonna be close to the saiyans powers.

 

[The Cheese]

Goku got a free ride through out the whole series. I mean he got some of the strongest attacks that he would ever have in the Sayjin Saga for crying out loud. The only thing that Goku has to do to increase his power level is to sit down and eat a lot of food.

Where as Vegita trains in 450 times earth’s gravity for years and comes out half dead from all his effort and still can't even compare to Goku. I would have to vote that Vegita should be the strongest because he is obsest with being the best.

 

[GokuSSj]

he has the spirit ball its not very useful it takes long time but its strong and the KAMEHAMEHA its awsome and the coolest thing i saw its the transformation from GOKU TO SSJ and i got with him to 60000000 and he is THE STRONGEST IN THE WORLD

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Originally posted by Majin Krillin
Goku got a free ride through out the whole series. I mean he got some of the strongest attacks that he would ever have in the Sayjin Saga for crying out loud. The only thing that Goku has to do to increase his power level is to sit down and eat a lot of food.

Where as Vegita trains in 450 times earth’s gravity for years and comes out half dead from all his effort and still can't even compare to Goku. I would have to vote that Vegita should be the strongest because he is obsest with being the best.

That is exactly why he is not the best.... All he cares about is being the best. Goku just wants to save people and have a happy life, he could care less if he was a weakling.... That is why manga made Goku the strongest character

And Goku goes through incredibly intense training, on his way to namek..., other world.....

And who ever said that majin increases strength by like 1% is completely wrong!

look at spopavitch, and dont ignore vegetas monolog when him and goku are fighting..... Its more like 40% ....

And the reason Goku stands such a good Chance against kid buu is because, he was hiding his power against vegeta, and was just toying with fat buu.... You have to remember that ssj increases the power explonetially, then ssj2 increases the power of ssj exponentially, and finnally ssj3 increases the power of ssj2 explonentially... So you get like Goku base power ^10 when ssj3...

 

[dillinger smith]

Mr gump are u a ****ing dumbass. Vegita should be the strongest, and if you think goku's training on the way to namek is more then what vegita goes through you are sadly misstaken. Goku is training at 100 times earths garvity where vegita is training at 450 for about 4 times longer than goku train on the way to namek. i don't ever remeber goku all most dieing from his training either. soo don't even start by saying goku goes through intense training compared to vegita, you are so wrong. so my vote is for vegita

 

[Hitokiri]

Uh, Vegeta trains at 450 like 2 sagas after goku trains at 100. Nobody ever said goku training on his way to namek was more than vegeta ever trained. And goku does get pretty messed up. Anyone remember when he gets stuck on the pull up rope and the gravity gets all screwed up? It's like a whole episode of him crawling and swinging on the rope. He tries to shoot a kamehameha up to cut the rope but the gravity actually pulls it back and it smacks him. And all this other crap.

When Vegeta is training at uber high gravity for the 7 year period after the cell saga, goku is training in otherworld. Not sure how he's training, they never really explain. You see him wearing super heavy weights once... that's it. And meditating on top of a mountain. So for all you know goku's training between the end of cell saga and beginning of buu saga could have been 100x harder than vegeta's, since they never show it. It's not like king kai gave him some magic fruit that made him go SSJ2 and SSJ3. But we'll never know.

*Flame set to low power.*

And don't call people dumbass, you little dumbass.

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Originally posted by dillinger smith
Mr gump are u a ****ing dumbass. Vegita should be the strongest, and if you think goku's training on the way to namek is more then what vegita goes through you are sadly misstaken. Goku is training at 100 times earths garvity where vegita is training at 450 for about 4 times longer than goku train on the way to namek. i don't ever remeber goku all most dieing from his training either. soo don't even start by saying goku goes through intense training compared to vegita, you are so wrong. so my vote is for vegita

Hey upgrade to training dipers and pull your head out of your a$$ and relise its a show, no vegeta should not be more powerful, because he is not..... The show is giving an example of how just being a higher social class than any one else, does not make you superior.....

Also Dont get pissed at the show because you wanted vegeta to be better, point of fact is, Goku is stronger than Vegeta, it does not matter how he trains or any thing, Goku is stronger...

Next time try not to sound like a little man whore.....;( ;(

and if you think this is a flame, it is!

 

[ScooterMan]

Originally posted by MR GUMP!!
That is exactly why he is not the best.... All he cares about is being the best. Goku just wants to save people and have a happy life, he could care less if he was a weakling.... That is why manga made Goku the strongest character

And Goku goes through incredibly intense training, on his way to namek..., other world.....

And who ever said that majin increases strength by like 1% is completely wrong!

look at spopavitch, and dont ignore vegetas monolog when him and goku are fighting..... Its more like 40% ....

And the reason Goku stands such a good Chance against kid buu is because, he was hiding his power against vegeta, and was just toying with fat buu.... You have to remember that ssj increases the power explonetially, then ssj2 increases the power of ssj exponentially, and finnally ssj3 increases the power of ssj2 explonentially... So you get like Goku base power ^10 when ssj3...

Now who's ignoring stuff of the series?
He was already ssj3 when he fought Fat Buu and wasnt toying with him, sure maybe he wasnt giving it his all, but i think more likely he was but knew he could maybe win but if he didnt he wouldnt have any time left to teach the fusion. So There was an element of uncertainty in his mind wheras if kid buu had fought fat buu it would be over in seconds without kid buu even having to try.
And 1% is much more accurate, 40%???
But hes the same strenght if not stronger when he comes back and isnt majin! Also goku couldnt have been holding back in the fight against vegeta or else he wouldnt have been screwed afterwards and vegetas punch wouldnt have knocked him out. The truth is they were dead even.
And where the hell did you get ^10 from?
Official power levels say that in the fight against freeza Goku normal was 800,000 and ssj he was 15,000,000
freeza (max) was 14,000,000.
So say he only improved to what normal 2,000,000(which i doubt very much)
then when he went ssj3 he would be 20,000,000,000,000,
which is over a million times stronger than freeza.
But what did the surpreme Kai say mr gump? that the Kais that fought him and trapped him were only a thousand times stronger than freeza. and this was kid buu, so fat buu should have been to ssj3 goku about the strength of a house fly. Ur formula is completely wrong and so is ur grasp on majin.

 

[Marauder]

chill out guys,
i just asked whos the best after awnsering u can stop posting...

 

[ScooterMan]

Well i vote for Vegeta, he's the best.
GO VEGETA GO!
yeah and sorry mr gump i got a bit carried away there...
but my points still stand.
spectre why arent we allowed to debate it?

 

[Marauder]

sry if thats what u thaught i ment...
i ment do bi*ch around when somee 1 has an opinion(no offence to no1)

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Um of course Goku was holding back when he fought vegeta, he did not even go SSJ3.... Look how much damage Buu's hits did to him, them determin if he was giving it his all...

Also you hear Goku talking to picolo about how it was not his job to kill Majin Buu at that time...

Saying majin only increases by 1% is wrong, simple as that....
Watch the buu saga, and pay atention to vegetas dialogs, He explains it all..

Considering Kid buu is the most deadly form of Buu and Goku goes toe to toe with him.... Look how buu does against kid buu.. He does not even stand a chance....

 

[ScooterMan]

He didnt go SSj3 because he didnt know how, he went ssj2 for the FIRST time in the fight against vegeta and so of course he had no idea how to go ssj3.
HE also wasnt holding back... cause otherwise vegetas hit wouldnt have knocked him out (at all, and definately not 3 episodes)
Exactly they obviously pumped goku with new powers he never had before (ie a free ride)
And also ive seen the majin series, tell me what dialog.

 

[Mr. Satans]

He didnt go SSj3 because he didnt know how, he went ssj2 for the FIRST time in the fight against vegeta and so of course he had no idea how to go ssj3.
HE also wasnt holding back... cause otherwise vegetas hit wouldnt have knocked him out (at all, and definately not 3 episodes)
tell me what exactly the last bit with buu meant i couldnt make one bit of sense out of it.
And also ive seen the majin series, tell me what dialog.

God you're stupid! Goku Went SSJ2 For The First Time Against Pikkon When Pikkon Did That Hyper Tornado or whatever. Goku was fighting Pikkon at the level he faught Cell and since Pikkon beat Cell with one punch or kick Goku needed to get stronger. Then later on Goku went SSJ3 In Otherworld. When he faught Vegeta he didn't give it his all (SSJ3), Vegeta gets pi**ed at him later for it, when he (Vegeta) returns from Otherworld (Heaven).

 

[ScooterMan]

I read somewhere that he went ssj2 for the first time in the fight against vegeta.
And i dont remember goku going ssj2*edit* against pikkon*edit*. Presumably if that was his first time he would have made a big deal of it (they always do) and theyre would have been tons of sparks and he would have smile outta the cornor of his mouth and said something like, now ive taken it to the next level.
But i remember none of that, i dont even remember there being sparks flying wildly around goku or exceptionally spiky and waving hair. No i think that fight along with a number of others was goku getting an incredible power boost with no explanation behind it...it happens a lot.
When did he go ssj3 in the otherworld? When? Does this happen later on cause i havent seen all the later Episodes of the buu saga (arent on tv or vid yet)

 

[Marauder]

puding?

 

[Mr. Satans]

Goku said in the series that he learned to go SSJ3 while in Otherworld

 

[Hibiki]

spectre dont spam :\


and all joo quit yellin and flaming each other or ill be forced to take action againts this topic

 

[ScooterMan]

Oh ok sorry, i will back down from that...
not my fault im in australia ok?
also that may be true but i stil dontl think he turned ssj2 in the fight against pikkon, i think perhaps he learned how before fighting vegeta but not against pikkon. Why? because it just didnt look like ssj2 and there was no big transformation... as i said before