wat is it about 1.2 u all hate?

[Zeonix]

Sigh....
1) I use simple melee. Advanced melee is pointless until the patch comes out. All you do is press up up down down and crap like that. A five year old can master the ddr system in a few minutes.
2) Advanced melee isnt awesome. Thats why the majority of players complain about it. Once more, i dont use advanced melee (unless im defending myself from an advanced meleer).
3) Unless you intend on challenging me to a fight, lets try to keep this thread on topic. Okay, "friend"?

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Warning :warning: to Theace for being off topic. This was about peoples' opinions, not about your zealocy. We appreciate that you like the mod but that isn't what this thread is about, and advanced melee isn't all there is to 1.2 .

 

[jp]

1.1 was fun, but 1.2 is much better.
I love the 24 bit color maps, and the new explosions.
But the greatest improvement are the melee.

 

[DragonDude]

The people who complain about 1.2 and Steam.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

The people who complain about 1.2 and Steam.

Elaborate so I don't have to warn you for spam. First reread the question at the beginning.

 

[DragonDude]

That's the aspect I don't like about the game, which is what was asked. Every time I join a server there's atleast one person making fun of something about the game, or something about Steam. 1.1 was better because not as many people used Steam, so not as many people complained about it.
If you've got to warn me for answering a question, go ahead.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

:S There is no need to critique my job... what you said didn't make sense out of context. It doesn't hurt to elaborate when something isn't clear.

 

[Fire Phoenix]

hmmm what i dont like about 1.2.... i would have to say the loss of fps, lag spikes, slower swooping speed, the fact i cant do anything when i block and still get hit. or when i tele away and still get hit, or maybe the fact that when i get hit to the ground i seem to be the only one who cant jump away like everyone else can and stays there for 3 seconds giving them time to ki blob me.

people say that their fps went up in 1.2... but for me they went way down 72-30 yay!
so i envy those people.

lag spikes. i have no clue what makes my ping jump from 60 to 300 but if that can be fixed i hope it does get fixed.

ps-i have never not once in my 6 months of playing 1.1 (i think it was 6 months) have i heard anyone get mad about the teleporting whoring.. or whatever you call it. the only thing that pissed me off was when i was called a hacker for 3 hit combos. unless thats what your talking about. i can understand but you can still do them in 1.2

 

[ChaosPriest]

Woah buddy. One thing is for sure if you dont like the advanced melee then go play BFP or something man. The Advanced part of the combat is awesome you are probibly one of those pre punch then throw all the damn time people so really dont wanna hear it friend.

ok what part of that wasnt an opinion?
and zeonix should have gotten the warning for jumping him about it.(thats an opinion also)

ON TOPIC - i dont really have much to complain about with 1.2 besides the fact that adv meelee can get a little repetitive and take such a long time to complete. but most of the problems i find are more than likely to be resolved here soon. after all, this is still beta and we are all testers.

OFF TOPIC - just tired of hearing people flame so much about it. this is why they created a suggestions section. this thread wasnt to hear that this game sucks or that steam sux or won sux. it was why there are people that dont like 1.2. not to just come out and say the game sux, but to explain why they dont. these guys work hard to make this game and are still in the process of updating it. esf has come a long way since the old days. let them work on it. the game wil get better. i think its an awesome game, for a free game. should just charge for it and get the flamers out. (that is also an opinion)

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Look, let's say I create a thread saying "To all those people that think Spiderman is a bad movie, why is it that you say so?" and someone comes in yelling "Spiderman is awesome and if you don't like it then go watch something else, you're probably one of those stupid punisher people so I don't want to hear what you have to say." Did that have anything to do with the topic? No... Did he mean that last comment as an insult? Yeah. So he was insultative and he was off topic. That means a warning. Not everybody involved in it has the recieve a warning.

Now let's get off of my moderating and get back on topic. If you have issues you can PM me.

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

Things i don't like about 1.2 is basically, and further more exactly what Fire Pheonix stated, besides ping. I noticed my fps is always 20-40. In 1.1 I always has a constant 50-80 fps. I don't know what it is, but something was changed in the code, or not I probably just need to use different tweaks then before.

In 1.1 I liked it without the teleport delay. It made the game seem more like dbz to me. Now the game is so mellow, and slow. I try to enjoy it, but I get disappointed.

There are some days when I have fun with it, and some days when I don't. In 1.1 I always enjoyed it especially when someone was tele binding to me to get a quick hit, but they fail, and get blocked, so they then get comboed.

Man those were the days. In 1.2 its different. I don't think its just the swoop speed, but more the teleporting. In 1.2 you have to like slower your pace of play, and not be so "super sensitive" to the speed of combat.

In 1.2 I feel like I need to charge more in it then in 1.1. *shrug* I dunno I know someone will be like "Well how did you Head on people" You really didn't have to head on anyone to win all the time. You could either side hit, or Ki pounce (Teleporting infront of them to stop there swoop).

Alot of people got mad at this though lol it was funny. Most people who had relied on swooping as there primary movement would fail against Ki pouncing. Believe it, or not, but in my opinion. I think 1.1 had more of the DBZ Feel of Combat.

1.2 yea has the adv melee which is nice, but its just too slow for DBZ. I know in the next patch though =D. Things will be alot more like dbz. I can't wait to play it.

Well I kind of have I had the Adv melee cvars to make it like 1.2.1's Adv speed. Its pretty fun though. Right now I am just kicking back, and waiting for this patch to come out. When it does I am hoping the fun we had in 1.1 will be alot more funner in 1.2.

 

[Behamut]

I like steam...
The only thing I dont like about steam is ...

In 3d party games I can never change gamemodes etc...
exmpls:
* In esf cant change to the ctdb or free fighting.
* In the specialist the only thing I can change when creating server is the maps

Well dont really have anyother probs with steam, maybe the updates are a little irritating sometimes...
But hey, always look on the bright side of steam.

Anyway I like 1.2 better then 1.1

 

[niobe]

it's just a guss, do you steem user's use xp?
if you do then i know the problem of steem, IT HAS NO RESPECT FOR A NORMAL WINDOWS VERSION.
and about 1.2, i hate it becours there are a lot of things that are gone.
when you fall down and fly you just stop, it also sux when i want to fall to make a beam jump.
in 1.1 you have the realistic things still in it, and i still fall when i shoot a beam.
i'm not talking about the melee, i do not and will never like it(it's to borring)
walljump is not the right thoice to put in, they could better make it possible to jump agains thows wals(this kind:/ \)
swooping is to slow for my tast, i like the bfp speed(when i mean fast that i realy mean fast)
and now what i do like about 1.2,.......................................................how they run with turbo on.
so i like 1.1 more becourse the things are still oritional.

 

[n1gh7mar3]

nah 1.2 is way awesome than 1.1 1.1 u can not do combos nor throws... thats what i hate a bout 1.1
u can not increase ur power lvl quick enough.....

 

[SaiyanPrideXIX]

I noticed my fps is always 20-40.

That's not something wrong with the game, it's a system issue. Fact of the matter is, there's MORE stuff on screen and higher texture resolution now.

You could either side hit, or Ki pounce (Teleporting infront of them to stop there swoop). Alot of people got mad at this though lol it was funny. Most people who had relied on swooping as there primary movement would fail against Ki pouncing.

Swooping IS the primary combat movement...or at least, it's supposed to be. When people ABUSE the teleport system, and make other people mad, they're not really playing it as it was intended.

Those two points bring me to my only complaints about 1.2:
1. People blame ESF's technical problems on the game and not on their setups. If the game runs really good for even a handful of other people outside of the team that develops it...then the game technologically has no major problems, it's just a conflict on a system to system basis.

2.) People who primarily don't like 1.2 because they can't HOW/LSM/Tele-Melee/Insta-Counter/Telebind anymore.

 

[imported_Mystix]

the people that play it ;o

Im gonna have to agree with that one, the people that play ESF are just way outta hand :S

 

[[RaideN]]

1.2 Complaints...
-Tele delay
-Swoop ki usage
-Advanced melee. I hate it, there is no skill for this, the only way to hit a skilled play is if you get a random and he/she hits the wrong button. That and it's just annoying, 1.1 melee all the way!
I hate 1.1 compared to 1.2
-If you're to close to someone u cant swoop, wtf is that?
-Lock on, despise it

thats the only reason i hate 1.1, 1.2... love it.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SSJ Shin Carl
I noticed my fps is always 20-40.

That's not something wrong with the game, it's a system issue. Fact of the matter is, there's MORE stuff on screen and higher texture resolution now.

My fps dropped in 1.2, but it's only noticible when I'm on esf_canyon and esf_gero. Those maps along with the rest of the new maps from 1.2 kill fps which is probably why his dropped. So don't ignore what he's saying, it's not a system issue... How would it be a system issue anyway if he got good fps in 1.1 and now doesn't?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SSJ Shin Carl
You could either side hit, or Ki pounce (Teleporting infront of them to stop there swoop). Alot of people got mad at this though lol it was funny. Most people who had relied on swooping as there primary movement would fail against Ki pouncing.

Swooping IS the primary combat movement...or at least, it's supposed to be. When people ABUSE the teleport system, and make other people mad, they're not really playing it as it was intended.

Swooping is the primary combat movement, but it takes up way too much ki at the moment and goes too slow, especially for the amount of ki it uses. Not many people abuse the teleport in 1.2 though, the tele delay takes away from it's usefulness (heh is that a word?). So basicly, melee isn't as intence/ fast paced as it was in 1.1. But thank god we got rid of the teleport binders, we wouldn't want them abusing teleport maybe ruining our fun when we could just leave and go to another server, now it's much better that the game pace is slowed down thus reducing the fun. Oh wait...

 

[Fire Phoenix]

FPS wise i don't think its my comuter. because i notice the difference b/w 1.1 and 1.2 1.1 i can with so much ease follow someone turn and hit them. whether my fps are 60 or 100. whatever. in 1.1 esf cell night i get 100 fps but in esf cell night in 1.2 somethings wrong cuz my fps are 100 for like a minute then drop to 50. i would have to say esf tom is really the only new 1.2 map that my fps arent 30 in. but they soon drop as well...

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

i like the old cell_day and cell_night then the newer one. It was more "combat" oriented imo, and Saiyan Pride. You have to realize that no matter what people say how the game is "intended" to be played. Everyone has there on Strategy, so you cannot make people play a certain way everyone has a unique fighting style. Hell I know I don't want to go around seeing everyone fight like me do I? No.