Ussj

[FRIEND OR FOE]

ascended sayin is what all trunk goku vegeta and gohan became after their training
ultra is what trunk became when facing cell it same as broli
they are not the same

 

[DiebytheSword]

They are the same. Trunks did not find any new level of power, he simply though he was stronger than Vegeta. Vegeta increased his speed and strength in moderation. Trunks increased strength only. Goku increased stamina.

There is no difference in the names of the transformation in dub or sub, so you can't substantiate any facts or prove that ASSJ and USSJ are seperate. Therefore, they are the same form. ;/

 

[Majin_You]

Originally posted by Cucumba!
They are the same. Trunks did not find any new level of power, he simply though he was stronger than Vegeta. Vegeta increased his speed and strength in moderation. Trunks increased strength only. Goku increased stamina.

There is no difference in the names of the transformation in dub or sub, so you can't substantiate any facts or prove that ASSJ and USSJ are seperate. Therefore, they are the same form. ;/

Which is precisely why it is useless in ESF. Why boost one of those aspects when all of them can be boosted to get to SSJ2? It never stood out that much in the series, I think it should be skipped, not only for that reason, but also to avoid further threads of the same topic...

 

[DiebytheSword]

Well, for some (like Mirai Trunks), USSJ/ASSJ is as far as they get.

Where is Chimpbot? He's got the whole series memorized.

 

[D.C. Darkling]

LOL. I'm just seeing Cell games for the first time now. So I'm trying to read past things I don't know yet. ;D

 

[[ESF]nighthawk]

There is such thing as "Ascended Saiyans" or ASSJ. It's SSJ2!!!
Quote from Piccolo "Has he really found a way to surpass an Ascended Saiyan? Is that possible?" from the EP when you see Goku go SSJ3.
Quote Krillen "He must be bluffing. I mean, what would that make him, double Ascended??" from the same ep.
Well, I'm glad we got that worked out

 

[Hibiki]

no no ssj3 will be called the level beyond the level beyond super saiya-jin

 

[FRIEND OR FOE]

oh my god u people think u know everything if u ever trust anyone tryst me at least on DBZ series ultra is different than ascended they all ascended once they train but only trunk went and decide to use ultra while goku knew about it and so did vegeta if u go back ull see goku say i can go further so check ur facts before u cant prove im wrong aight


*I dont need to prove anything, youre in MY world now........and BTW: youre also WRONG!*
Cheeseman

 

[ph34r t3h Cute]

shut up:tired:

 

[Hibiki]

/me slaps fof with large trout



o enough all ready!!!

 

[FRIEND OR FOE]

aight finally some since it doesnt really mattter imma wining anything fromthis just because im more enlighten then u about DBZ dont hate

 

[ph34r t3h Cute]

Fof plz try to make sence.:talk:

 

[SS_Vegeta]

currently we have no plans to implement ussj

 

[AscendantSaiyan]

Saiyan - normal, black hair, low PL

Super Saiyan - first transformation, yellow hair, green eyes, big PL jump 10 fold or more

Ascended Super Saiyan - Yellow hair, greens eyes, electricity (blue sparks) around them, medium to big PL jump errr maybe two or threes times more.

Super Saiyan 3 - Long yellow hair, green eyes, electricity around them, another big PL jump not sure how much.

*Note/ I have been watching the UK cartoon network version and have only seen as far as fat buu in the buu saga. so i only know a bit about SSJ4 i think they have black hair again.

(correct me if im wrong im not the master.....well maybe im not )

 

[Mystik Gohan]

Originally posted by Cucumba!
They are the same. Trunks did not find any new level of power, he simply though he was stronger than Vegeta. Vegeta increased his speed and strength in moderation. Trunks increased strength only. Goku increased stamina.

There is no difference in the names of the transformation in dub or sub, so you can't substantiate any facts or prove that ASSJ and USSJ are seperate. Therefore, they are the same form. ;/

I agree with you on a level but when you say increase in a certain stat that means EACH character that chose a different one would make it a different transformation. Think of it this way, they are only ssj, just with different attributes. If it was any different that would say all sjs must be the same strength.
I completely agree with night though. Ascended ssj = ssj2 which is a quote from goku. Its when he goes ssj3. He tries to take time by going through each level. He says something like. "This is the first level of ssj, blah blah blah, then he goes, next is ascended saiyan or ssj level 2."

That there resolves the whole assj thing and ussj are the same, and that ussj is ssj2. But if you deem ussj different then it can't be real. The only possibility of it being real is if its the same as assj or ssj2. It kind of makes sense to be. Like it says, ussj, ultra ssj level, but i doubt it works like that. Because all it would be called is a strength speed or whatever increasement. They don't say in the series that they reached new levels but rather his strength increased dramatically(when trunks powers up or goes to fullest strength.)

Hopefully the whole confusion of ussj has been settled.

 

[)V(ajin Tomas]

Somebody please close this topic :cry:

 

[[ESF]nighthawk]

This is all I'm goin to say on the subject :

Normal State
SSJ
USSJ (manipulative form of SSJ)
ASSJ/SSJ2 (same)
SSJ3
SSJ4 (if you follow the GT series)

Now everyone stop confooooooosing yourselves.

 

[Kuyuaga]

Guys who cares!! Its just a cartoon!

 

[)V(ajin Tomas]

O_O :shocked: ;( I cant believe u just said that !!!

 

[SSJ Strife]

in the UK dubbed version of dbz, the ascendant saiyan is ssj2:

in the buu saga, goku is buying time for trunks to find the dragon radar:

"this is a super-saiyan" - goku goes ssj

"this is a level past that of a super saiyan. an ascendant saiyan" - goku gets the whole lightning dealy goin on (SSJ2 i assume)

"and this... is a super-saiyan 3" goku proceeds to scream just long enough for you to smash your tv, then he becomes the neanderthal SSJ3