SSJ4 real stage?

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Would you clss SSJ4 a real SSJ stage? Me and Guru san class SSJ3 as the final stage considering Akira Toriyama only ever got to that stage in the Manga's. What do you guys think??
 

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Well u cant say it isnt real cos, well, it is, it does excist, I mean it is a fact that it is there, but I dont consider it a real stage from the dragonball series, mainly because I dont consider dbgt as a part of the db series
 
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dbgt was more of a mini-series tho... not too many episodes
 
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Length of a series doesn't matter at all in this discussion.

Personally, I don't consider it to be a form.
Yes, it IS there...I just don't include it in the Dragonball "canon".

Yeah, it's a neat idea and all...but it's also ridiculous...I mean..c'mon, SSJ3 was stretching the concept way to far...SSJ4 just blows the idea out of the water..

I can handle SSJ....and SSJ2 is believable, it was called "the form that surpased that of a super saiya-jin" during the Cell saga.

Anything beyond 3 is just patheticly unoriginal and disgusting
 
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I don't care who said what...

Length of a series doesn't mean ANYTHING in his discussion.
 

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lol what did I say?

That length does matter?

ehm read my post again... :\
 

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