Ssj3 goku has met his match

[Xenogias]

Krillin is the main person we need to focus on right now.
People say they had to give him a transformation or else no one
will play with him? I think thats just wrong, Krillin Fans will play as
krillin if they wanted too. And not to have him grow some hair. Its
pretty stupid. I think There should only be one Krillin Model.

and have him power up like 2-4 times with more attacks.
Krillin can do Soukidan, Kamehameha, Destructo Disk, Scatter Beam, Solar Flare

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Ok ill list all the tranformations of the sayins i think should be in..

Goku
SSJ (1,750,000)x2
life:130
Speed: 280
SSJ2 (10,000,000)x2
life:170
speed: 380
SSJ3 (30,000,000)x3 (can only stay transformed for 2 minutes)
life:250
speed: 500

Vegeta
SSJ (2,000,000)x2
life: 130
speed: 280
USSJ (6,000,000)x1.5
Life: 160
Speed: 280
SSJ 2 (12,000,000)x2
Life 180
speed: 400

Trunks
SSJ (1,250,000)x2
life: 130
speed: 260
USSJ (4,000,000)x1.5
life: 160
speed: 260
USSJ 2 (15,000,000)x3
life:230
speed 260

Gohan:
Unlocked Potential (,800,000)x1.5
life:115
speed:230
SSJ (1,600,000)x2
life: 130
speed: 280
SSJ 2 (8,000,000)x2
life 180
speed: 380
Mystic Gohan (30,000,000)x2.5 (perminant transformation)
life: 230
speed: 480

 

[Xenogias]

Stop suggesting a Mystic Gohan please.
People still dont get it. If there were to be a Majin Vegeta or
Mystic Gohan then it'd be like saying focusin in one saga. Its kinda
like saying having piccolo daimoa transform into Piccolo from DBZ.
And its ***.

Its stupid too how you will have
Gohan from normal>ssj>ssj2>mystic

Why would you want to go back to your normal form?
It may not be his normal form but he still looks exactly like his
normal form and all he has is a temporary power increase. Mystic
does not last forever.

 

[ScooterMan]

The new better list:
Goku
SSJ (1,750,000)x2
life:130
Speed: 280
SSJ2 (10,000,000)x2
life:170
speed: 380
SSJ3 (30,000,000)x3 (can only stay transformed for 2 minutes, plus massive ki drain, so no ps's possible)
life:250
speed: 500

Vegeta
SSJ (2,000,000)x2
life: 130
speed: 290
USSJ (6,000,000)x1.5
Life: 160
Speed: 290
SSJ 2 (12,000,000)x2
Life 220 (BB and FF are upgraded)
speed: 420

Trunks
SSJ (1,250,000)x2
life: 130
speed: 300
USSJ (4,000,000)x1.5
life: 160
speed: 290
USSJ 2 (15,000,000)x3
life:280
speed 260

Gohan:
SSJ (1,600,000)x2(has weakest ssj stages as in show)
life: 120
speed: 230
SSJ 2 (8,000,000)x2
life 160
speed: 350
Mystic Gohan (30,000,000)x2
life: 230
speed: 450
Mr gump what u said was good,
but giving gohan the highest multiplier and a permenant transformation that has the second highest stats cant be good.
I think trunks should be the fastest straight off, normal and ssj. but then in ussj he gains none and in ussj2 he loses a bit.
SSJ3 goku should have a 2 minute timelimit plus it takes massive Ki, eg, if ur floating in air with him in 20 seconds hell be out of KI. so ps's will be hard for him. Also there should never be a perfect transformation level for him. At his best it'll take him 5 seconds and there'll be tons of lightning so ppl can see where he is, and hopefully stop him.
but the secret here is vegeta is the master of the best ssj form (2) and has BB and FF upgraded, faster load time increased strength. And perhaps if he knocks them to the ground he can hold them there with those ring things and melee them. itll only hold for 5 seconds though if theyre as strong as him.
Trunks will be slow but should have more life then anyone, plus his sword should do massive damage.
Gohan is the tricky one, his mystic doesnt take much KI yet it is really strong..... dont make it a permenant transformation....
I have no idea how to balance gohan...

 

[Cheeto101]

for krillin id say take away the transformation (it looks kinda umm weird), and give him a kaoken button instead(i know its been suggested before, but it would give krillin something unique and different then a transformation). As his pl goes up kis kaoken gets stronger and stronger but it drains life from him slowly. Or maybe the more you push the kaoken button the more it multiplies your pl, but the more life it drains and as you get a higher pl you loose less life per multiplication?? I dunno, just a thought.

 

[J_Star]

But what could you chance on krillen so i agree to that keo ken attack that he just get stronger or something like that.

 

[Wyatt]

you cant have gohan going ssj ssj2 then mtstic cuz adult gohan NEVER went ssj2 it says it in the show where they talk to goku b4 they enter the tournament

 

[Mystic Snidely]

I think Krillin's fine as he is. His transformation rocks. I think it's been said that he's only getting the one.

 

[Thereddragon]

sos m8 but it is a stupid question
i mean they have already thought of doing this otherwise they wouldn't say they are gonna release him!

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Well scooter i think all the ssj tranformations should be the same, except goku and gohan should move maybe 10 faster... because they did master it after all..

SSJ 3 should work just like current ssj but have a 2 min timmer, masive ki drain would suck... And he does basically master ssj3 when fighting kid buu.

Mystic should be just about as strong as ssj3 except slightly less life and slightly less speed, but it would be perminant.

I dont like the idea of ssj2 vegeta being far superior to ssj2 goku.. Vegeta does get more attacks after all....

Maybee after ssj2 Vegeta could get Majin ssj2

Majin SSJ2: (27,000,000)x1.3
life:200
speed:420


and wyat ur wrong about a. Gohan never going ssj2....

He does it 2 times, when he shows kabito his true power, and when he is trying to destroy buu's egg...

 

[Mystic Snidely]

Originally posted by MR GUMP!!
I dont like the idea of ssj2 vegeta being far superior to ssj2 goku.. Vegeta does get more attacks after all....

Does he?

Goku will have (for sure) solar flare, spirit bomb, kame, kame torpedos and (maybe) chou kame and dragon fist.

Vegeta will have (for sure) gallit gun, energy dan, big bang, final flash and (maybe) self-destruct.

You could argue that solar flare doesn't count, but although I'd disagree with that, it would still mean they have around five techniques each.

 

[MR GUMP!!]

You lose spirit bomb when ssj, and i dont think they will add dragon first (unless joe wants it) because it is a movie move... and esf is non movie

 

[Xenogias]

Originally posted by MR GUMP!!
You lose spirit bomb when ssj, and i dont think they will add dragon first (unless joe wants it) because it is a movie move... and esf is non movie

All Harsens mensioned on that sticky is no DBGT Characters,
Or Movie Characters. But regardless of that a Technique is not a Character. And he never said no Techniques from Movies/DBGT.

I would really love for Gokou to have his Dragon Fist.
It just kicks ass. And probably the only real Technique he uses
as SSJ3. Unless you want Kame-Torpedos and Kamehameha throughout
all his transformations. Then someone will want a Chou-Kamehameha
which is even more stupid cause all it is, is a kamehameha with more power....

 

[Wyatt]

who said A.gohan can go ssj2 cuz he cant and if u say oo lightning ALL ssjs have that stuff u just dont notice it. a. gohan DOES NOT HAVE SSJ2!!!!

 

[MR GUMP!!]

Originally posted by Wyatt
who said A.gohan can go ssj2 cuz he cant and if u say oo lightning ALL ssjs have that stuff u just dont notice it. a. gohan DOES NOT HAVE SSJ2!!!!

yess he does..... Watch his hair change smart one

any way... i never really noticed harsens did not say that

 

[Wyatt]

bah gohan said it himself that he had gotten weaker and i quote "I cannot go to the level beyond ssj dad." END QUOTE!!!

 

[Morrone]

Still, hes got mystic.

 

[ScooterMan]

Originally posted by MR GUMP!!
Well scooter i think all the ssj tranformations should be the same, except goku and gohan should move maybe 10 faster... because they did master it after all..

SSJ 3 should work just like current ssj but have a 2 min timmer, masive ki drain would suck... And he does basically master ssj3 when fighting kid buu.

Mystic should be just about as strong as ssj3 except slightly less life and slightly less speed, but it would be perminant.

I dont like the idea of ssj2 vegeta being far superior to ssj2 goku.. Vegeta does get more attacks after all....

Maybee after ssj2 Vegeta could get Majin ssj2

Majin SSJ2: (27,000,000)x1.3
life:200
speed:420


and wyat ur wrong about a. Gohan never going ssj2....

He does it 2 times, when he shows kabito his true power, and when he is trying to destroy buu's egg...

no mr gump 2 minutes would suck. thats along time to live anyway. and after hes finished, hes puffed then does it again? thats the most retarted thing ever. Massive ki drain is the only way to go.
You said about gohan and gokus ssj2 being stronger than vegetas but thats just plain wrong.
See a. gohan hadnt trained for 7 years so,
vegeta ssj>gohan ssj2 (dabura fight)
vegeta ssj2>gohan ssj2 (buu fight, gohan near dead in one hit vegeta fought for ages)
vegeta ssj2>goku ssj2
It should go like this...
Goku:
SSJx2
speed:260 hp:130
SSJ2x2
speed:350 hp:180
Ssj3x2.5 (massive ki drain)
speed:440 hp:260

Vegeta:
SSJx2
speed:280 hp:140
USSJ:x1.5
speed: 280 hp:190
SSJ2: x2.5 (gains upgrades to BB and FF)
speed:380 hp:240

A. Gohan
Normal
speed:200 hp:100
SSJx2
speed:250 hp:120
Mystic(permenant)x3
speed:420 hp:250(come on he lasted for about 5 minutes against buu before needing healing, plus its permenant so it cant be too good)

Trunks
Normal
speed 250 hp 100
SSJx2
speed 320hp 120
Ussj
speed 270 hp200
USSJ2
speed 260 hp 280

there.
Gohan couldnt go ssj2 he became to weak, he didnt have the power too anymore. He thought he could when he powered up for kibito but he didnt.
and what u said about there ssj transformations that gohan should be 10 faster then vegeta. Why? vegeta in the Buu saga ssj was MUCH stronger than gohans. Gohan ssj would have stood no chance against him. IF gohan had ssj2, he would have used it against buu and dabura. THerefore, vegeta ssj>gohan ssj2. but he couldnt so vegeta ssj was just MUCH MUCH stronger than gohans. so no, vegeta should have the strongest ssj, and ssj2 transformation. SSJ2 especially, i mean be fair, it is his final transformation, and i saw nothing in the series to prove that goku ssj2 was stronger. and his ssj2 was stronger than gohans when he fought cell, obviously because he had 7 years of training behind it.