Remove team kills

[Wolf Devil]

I'm getting sick and tired of getting intentionally killed by my newb/idiotic teammates. I joined a server, looked at the teams, saw a score of good:120, evil: 20 (or somthing like that), and there were only 3 people on good, and 4 on evil, I figured I'd join the losers (insult + game fact ), and then when I did, I started to turn the tide of the game torward that of the losers, after I'd gotten maybe 10 or 11 kills, the idiot with the least score sends a spirit bomb my way, just as I was about to finish off another opponent, and says "You can't even keep the teams even.. Stupid n00bie".... I got this from a guy with 2 frags, 40 deaths and had been there for about 30 minutes...

I've given this a lot of thought, and figured it wouldn't be a good idea to do somthing to drastic (like losing half your powerlevel), so I thought I'd make it a bit more feesable.

To remove team kills, I suggest losing twice the power level that you would have gained if they'd killed somebody of the same power level. For instance, say a guy with 1,300,000 pl kills a guy with 4,000,000. And let's say, for instance, that you'd get 40,000 for that. Since it's a team kill, he would lose 80,000. This will discourage team kills just enough so that they aren't desirable, but won't encourage opposition to cause them too much.

Now I suppose you're saying "What if it's an accident?" Well I thought about that too, and I thought up of two different ways to solve this.

1) The team killer will slowly lose PL (like if they were at 8 hp) until the full amount is lost. At the next non-team kill, it will stop, and you'll gain the PL that you would normally gain.

2) The team killer instantly loses that pl, however he has 20 seconds to make a non-team kill, and then he'll gain back the HP he lost from the team kill, but no extra. If the 20 second time limit elapses, his pl loss is permanent until gained back from more kills.

I'm just sick of team kills, and tired of having to teach the local jackass a lesson.

 

[Magmus]

just turn FF off

problem solved

 

[Wolf Devil]

Don't be an ass. I can't control other people's servers.

 

[Magmus]

well dont join servers with FF on its a simple solution if u dont liek FF then dont join FF servers

 

[Deman]

I like having the option of friendly fire, it keeps everyone on their toes.

I say keep the option

 

[Wolf Devil]

I DO like FF, idiot, that's why I've suggested this. FF should be, like Miroku says, a way to keep people on their toes, not a goddamned excuse to kill your teammates.

If you don't like my suggestion, then get bent, or explain why. Don't tell me I shouldn't be playing ESF because I've made a suggestion that will keep people from being *******s.

 

[Magmus]

i didnt say stop palying esf

i said if u moan about FF being on foin servers with no FF

the whole point of FF is that you in risk of being nuked by your team mates... if your being shot at by newbs or lammers jsut change server.. i see no point to make FF like you said it would sort of ruin the point of having FF

 

[Phatslugga]

Well, it's a good idea to stop people from TKing, but i don't like it. Many times this happens on accident, and it's hard as it is to get to a transformation with vegeta or krillen now, without that type of penalty. FF is going to occur every now and then, just deal with it, if it does happen a lot to you, then just petition to kick the guy purposely doing it. If no one wants to then leave that server. I haven't gone to a server where people do this on purpose yet, and beleive me those people that do won't get far anyway.

 

[Wolf Devil]

Newsflash: ESF servers with good pings and rotation.. Make that ANY ESF servers are hard to come by. The most servers I've ever seen is 20 (AT BEST), and very few seem to actually have good ping. On the occasion that I actually find a server worth playing in, it pisses me off that some jackass on my team kills me because I saved his ass, or atleast trying to help him.

I understand your reservations, but they are unfounded. Vegeta only has trouble with team kills AFTER he's transformed, and Krillin is.... Well, Krillin. He's not much of a character to be fighting with anyways.

Besides all that, you'll notice that I HAVE made it so you don't have to lose PL. These suggestions will only hurt those who are intentionally attacking team mates. If Frieza threw a deathball at somebody on the ground, who had just been send down there by a teammate, and that teammate decided to go after him just as Frieza threw his deathball, and it collided with the ground, and the ki blob killed both, Frieza wouldn't have to worry.

Since they both died at the same time, the counter actions mentioned above would keep him from losing PL.. How depends on the way it was implimented.

If they went with number 1, killing the enemy would stop the PL loss.

If they went with 2, killing the enemy within the 20 second time limit will let them get their PL back up.

Don't you see how sweet it works out?

 

[Phatslugga]

Heh, there's no code that can figure out if your kill is intentional or not. even if it was coded to where if you killed your teammate with a kiblob it didn't count against you, don't you think those people you are complaining about (which i rarely come across) would exploit that? I don't like the idea at all, seeing as this doesn't happen enough to make it al lthat important, even if it does happen constantly, you can easily grab that persons WON ID and report it to the server administrator. Eventually these people will be cuaght in the act.

If all else fails, join the other team and whoop him until he leaves, then join back.

 

[Hibiki]

u cant fix this

u eather shut off ff or u accept it fully u cant just make half ff that only works when its unintentional

its play with ff or dont that simple


and dont be an ass other people just because they contradict u :\