New Move For Goku

[Trickster]

here's an odd (if not crappy) idea, at many times throughout the series, invisible ki blasts are fired. Kiaiho they're called. Basically a wave of concussive ki, low damage and truckloads of knockback. One instance? in hell, goku uses it on the demon and knocks him out of the ring. I think you can all see where i'm goin with this.

An invisible attack, gotta be fairly close to do it but once they're in your sights, you charge and fire? FOOMP! they get sent flying across the map, and from what i've heard the new melee system allows this. Of course, this attack would mainly be a stepping stone to another attack. Eg. ki blasts, kiaiho, and while the'yre flyin back a kamehameha? just a suggestion and i know how finicky some peeps on this board are so "Bring on the Flames"

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

hmmm invisible attack... i can feel the spammage now.... wudn u just melee attack them if u were to do that??


yah thnx leet....soz if that was harsh

 

[Trickster]

yep, but this'd be for different situations. eg. when theres heaps of terrain in the way, lots of players, beams everywhere, hes teleporting, he's shooting etc. it'd be hard to get a good hit with melee, this is for semi-long range knockback. like always, just a suggestion.

imagine the "pain in the arse" possibilities, someone rushes toward you, seconds from impact and FOOMP!he goes hurtling back to where he was. and i dont think spammin would be a problem. not a lot of people would be willing to give up discs, final flashes, big bangs etc. for a knockback move on one character

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

that shud be pretty cool if they put that in.... its like wen they powerup heaps and knock back ppl... wud this havta be aimed??... or like u reckon it shud spread out everywhere?

 

[Enforcer15]

It should be aimed and be like force push in jedi knight 2, but it would probably be spammed a lot and would have to take lots of ki to compensate. I like the idea however, its in someone the SNES DBZ fighting games like Super Botudan. I think Goku and Gohan should get this move. And while your at it...give Goku the spirit bomb move he deserves and kaioken and chou kamehameha!

 

[imported_phrack50]

Originally posted by Cheeseman
I was just pondering a concept [for the whole day at werk ]
What about just Giving Goku a melee benefit, a red aura, and calling it a Kaioken attack? After all, Trunks will have a sword that makes his melee unique, surely Goku deserves something similar?

Good idea, but don't just limit it to melee, he should be able to use it in powerstruggles too. But it must be balanced. For instance, if your a regular goku (not SSJ) than theres no way in hell your kaoiken should work against a SSJ. Not even in melee. So make it a significate boost, but not too much. Also I like the idea of his health and ki draining away while using it. And if possible, create multiple levels of kaioken. Like X2 X3 or X4 maybe.

 

[Trickster]

yeh the kiaiho should be aimed, as it is an invisible blast of ki, not an area attack. but like i said before, spamming prolly wouldn't be an issue because
a) only goku should have it (everyone else has enough moves in the works)
b) it does no damage
c) they can recover pretty quick from knockbacks

-its really only to get you out of sticky situations or to push people around a little, a high ki cost would negate the practicality of the move i think,.

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

o yeh.... if it didn do any damage then it wud stil be useful but not that useful to be spammed...wud this be like hard to code?

 

[Wyatt]

yea good idea dont think it matters how much damage it does but nunthe less good idea dont think it sould take up much ki tho since its not much of an attack.

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

this perhaps cud be used as sum counter attack against melee....??

 

[Trickster]

yeh, not much of an attack in the direct-damage sense, more of a solar flare type thing - useful if used correctly. i mean if you think about it, its the only other feasible choice for a move. Goku doesn't have all that many moves you could put in, kiaiho is about the only one thats not in already that would work. eg. his janken punches from DB wouldn't work, kaioken? it'd be too hard to find the right balance etc etc.

although judging from the few opinions we have on this, it seems like it'd go down well amongst the fans if it's done right. and i dont think it'd be hard to code at all. Just use a ki ball with no sprite as the effect and just crank up the knockback on the move. :yes:

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

and hav no damage...... sweet.. yeh i think this is a good suggestion.....

 

[Hibiki]

thats a totaly pointless move i mean goku never uses it and i mean what stops someone from just shooting a beam at u...

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

nah this is like a counter for melee or sumfin......if sum shoots a beam.. dodge... or block......

 

[imported_phrack50]

Sorta like in BFP, Goku can push people far away just using the force of his energy. You also see him do this in DBZ episode 54 Ginyu Assualt. Would be great if your getting gangbanged by a bunch of peeps in melee, then you just force them all away from you so you could counterattack while they're all stuck trying to recover.

 

[Enforcer15]

I think its a great idea. And they should take some damage and be stunned a bit if they hit any walls from the knock back.

 

[Trickster]

yep, you guys got the idea now. it aint meant to be a beam counter like hibiki reckons, or anything to do with beams. As stated, it's a way of getting out of trouble quick. like solar flare but focused on one enemy. anyone else got any other ideas? it'd be good to compare them and see which ones stand up the best.

oh and by the way hibiki, you say goku never uses it. Here's an idea, sit down and read the posts. 2 instances have been referred to already, i can find more if it'd make you feel better

 

[Hibiki]

heres an idea instead of pushing him like a wussy u could go smack his ass up with melee


and how can it be a counter if u have to do it before he hits u... not much of a counter attack id say...

 

[Trickster]

i see where you're comin from, i know that melee'd prolly be better one on one, but say theres 3 guys shooting beams around ya, you can't smack the crap out of all of em at once, so fly up and whack one of em, turn around and push the other two down to the ground and then give em all a Kamehameha while they're trying to prise their heads from the concrete.


and yeh, for counters its more of a *teleport out of the way when they shoot a beam atcha then by the time they've got their bearings back, they're already careening toward the ground at speeds rivalling a stealth bomber :devil:*
to tell you the truth, i reckon if used correctly, this move could give goku a real competitive edge. Maybe the team should make a little version of it and test it, see how it goes and then make a decision. well thats my two cents, :yes:

 

[ultrassj_vegeta]

um u do realise usually 3 ppl ain gona be teamin up on u ok... they be going for each other as well..... so u wudn reallly need that... but it still good....