"Monster? I'm not a monster, im the Devil!"

[owa]

Sorry what? That's the most offensive thing i've ever seen posted. What's your Idea of an exceptional model hmm? nuttzy's (no offense man just an example) brolli? Perhaps.. Smo's older Vegeta? Maybe AzN's Gohan? I'd really like to know how you rate an exceptional model, as believe it or not, and i'm telling the truth here, we aren't professionals.

And don't bring that trash that we are, as you say, cutting corners. We are working our butts off on this model, I have redone the bracers at least 3 times trying to get them to look proper without heading over to chrome. And I said it before, the neck is a problem area, i'm going to fix it, read the thread before posting.

An exceptional model for this mod would be one that follows the proportions, and design of the actual DBZ character, in the show, which is what I am going by. Which is how everyone should be criting. Your models may be good, but because you are modeling after something, we have something to compare with. If that isn't what you like, then you should model somewheres else...

I'd like to know, believe it or not, why you not being a professional or not has anything to do with what I said. You don't have to be a proferssional to fix the proplems, or make an exceptional model. So don't use that as an excuse.

I did read about the neck proplems, all I did was reiterate that it was a proplem, and if fixed (along with making the bracelet a tad bigger) would make this model exceptional, I also said, by not fixing these proplems, you would be cutting corners.

Simply because I said you needed to fix the neck, does not mean I didn't read the thread. So don't jump to conclusions. I was just reiterating, like I said, and just showing that you are not the only one who sees a proplem.

 

[Cap J]

Why would you want to reiterate something that they have said will be fixed? It has already been said so it is obvious that they are not the only ones who see it. It just wastes time.

 

[owa]

Why would you want to reiterate something that they have said will be fixed? It has already been said so it is obvious that they are not the only ones who see it. It just wastes time.

How does it waste time? Simply because I feel it is an important thing to fix, and felt it should be said, does not make it a waste of time. Don't read my posts if you don't have time. Sound good? I think so.

If you guys don't like how I view things, then stop reading my posts. I crit things by how I think it could be better. Simply because I said something that was already stated does not make me wrong, and it certainly doesn't make my post a waste of time, it just reinforces the thoughts shared by other people.

I still stand by my thoughts, and my crit. If this bothers you, or my views bother you, then take it up with someone who cares.

 

[Cap J]

I never said it made you wrong, I just don't see the point in saying something that has been stated as a future fix. Feel free to stand by your thoughts as it is your opinion and I respect that. And did I say it wasted my time? No. Did I say your views bother me? No, they are afterall, your views. And maybe he brought up the point of not being professionals as professionals get paid to do it whereas they aren't getting paid and didn't even have to make a model, let alone decide to release it for public use.

 

[TehMuffinMan]

Owa, in the shortest term i can think of, its going to be released with them problems whether you like it or not, your opinion is not a matter in there current stage, the rest of the community wishes to have this and will be more than content with it as it is now. If you dont like it. Do not download it. ok? leave it so this dosnt turn into another page of war and GG refusing releasing to such people.

in my opinion, the models great, try to remember you will rarly see the front of the model ingame,so minor details like the bracelet can be avoided.

 

[owa]

I can agree with both of you, but even though my opinion is not really needed, I still wish to give one, and will continue to give one.

TehMuffin, I never said I did not like the model, but that it could be better. I don't play ESF anyways, so I had no intentions of downloading it.

All I can say is that if GG refused to release this simply because of a few crits, then he'd be a pretty big baby, and I'd lose all respect for him.

 

[God Gundam]

lol, i plan to release no matter what, the thing is, the proportions of the arms and whatnot cant be changed at the current stage, we have it so that the skeleton lines up with it exacltly, anything is moved or edited, will mess up the animations, and i dont want to redo any of them, thated be another 2 weeks of my time gone <_<. I might possibly look into the neck however, just so that i can see which looks better. anyways, gotta finish trans animations.

-GG-

 

[owa]

lol, i plan to release no matter what, the thing is, the proportions of the arms and whatnot cant be changed at the current stage, we have it so that the skeleton lines up with it exacltly, anything is moved or edited, will mess up the animations, and i dont want to redo any of them, thated be another 2 weeks of my time gone <_<. I might possibly look into the neck however, just so that i can see which looks better. anyways, gotta finish trans animations.

-GG-

Thanks, this explained things more clearly. Ya, if you could really fix the neck a tad, it'd really be nice, but I can understand why you can't go back now and make a big change.

 

[Thamuz]

Unreal looking broly, I like it, well done

 

[SSJ Shin Carl]

this toy?

http://www.beardsmen.com/broly.jpg

See Gundam this is your problem. Brolli (in the show) does not look anything like that at all. His arms are gorilla length, and hes not proportioned correctly in the body either. A good idea would be to use a different toy ref. Not anything from JAKKS. =\

 

[jp]

nag nag nag nag.... comon, it looks good, okay the neck could be changed, but you cannot expect it to be perfect.. he ain't a professional.

Btw, ssj shin carl... i love your title... "legendary super-saya-jin" while you have an avatar of Cell...... i wonder what that means.... :S

 

[Cold Steel]

See Gundam this is your problem. Brolli (in the show) does not look anything like that at all. His arms are gorilla length, and hes not proportioned correctly in the body either. A good idea would be to use a different toy ref. Not anything from JAKKS. =\

Could you please just stop this allready. The skeleton has allready been assigned, so I doubt there will be any more model changes.

Besides, i have not seen God Gundam confirm the fact he actually used that toy as a ref.

I say the model looks awesome. No changes needed. The flaws it has are so minor, you won't even notice when playing.

 

[wheres_]

ummm... one thing i ran into whilst spriting for this guy is that: you know how brolli's main theme color is green? well i made up a ggun_aura and made the beam and head green (the only one else that uses it is cell so who cares) and it looks quite good, but the explosion is still purple if i change it to green though all other purple explosions will be green and look real dodgey along with all the blue and yellow explosions for bba and ff respectivly... so um... yeah...ill have to keep the attacks the same color scheme.

oh and im not officialy spriting him either.

 

[guest]

looking bad ass dude, bummer bout the sprites, i remembering messing up 1.0's aura trying to change its color lol, picolo and krillen with yellow auras

 

[God Gundam]

all i plan on doin with the aura is scaling it. that way it will look correct hieght with brolli, but yet make it look like the other characters have super powered auras

oh ya, only 2 animations left ^_^, the deep idle, and the trans_long animation. after i figure out what to do with them and animate them, kama and I are going to review the animations and i will redo what we think needs it. Other than that model/animations will be done on my part. (I did edit the neck a bit, found a median between mine and your ref drawings).

Once kama finishs fixin up the neck (he remapped the neck and is tryin out different skins), he will get the last 4 sounds we need. So were rapping up our part sooner than i thought. All we need now is Optional to finish his map, and if possible get some sprites that will work properly for vegetable man and we can release. So patience is all we ask for. I will post new render of neck edit later tonight or tomorrow depending when i get a chance.

 

[guest]

hmm, as suggestions for anims, in trans_long hed look cool doing the pwup stance where he floats off the ground, i cant rly get any good pics im afraid, i tried to get a pic off some BK3 vids but i cant take pics in winamp, but its the pwup where he floats and his hands are to his sides, hands open, looking cool. as for deep idle, mayb he should laugh? with hands on hips, looking evil.

 

[Raven Blade]

sploooosh! ...........

DRAW OVER DRAW OVER DRAW OVER

DRAW OVER DRAW OVER DRAW OVER

Note: I only touched the chest and arms, I dont have time to do it all...

 

[Azn|kid|]

i like butt can you fix the neck

 

[Raven Blade]

Kama said he was already fixing the neck, so I didnt touch it.

 

[guest]

wow, that looks lry cool raven, sept for each side looking exactly the same doubled lol but yea, looks cool.