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What difference does it make how other people play the game to you?ForeverZero said:
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He wants the forums to advocate practicing more practical combat techniques over practicing fun party-pleasing ones. He does not appreciate that these forums take a neutral stance on the subject of how new players choose to develope their playing skills. We had a chat earlier today on the issue.
Zero, do you really think that the forum telling people that practicing combos is stupid is going to make them take the game more seriously and get better at the fundamental components of what makes a great ESF player? People who want to practice combos are going to whether we tell them to or not. These people are just here to give them hints on how.
Zero, do you really think that the forum telling people that practicing combos is stupid is going to make them take the game more seriously and get better at the fundamental components of what makes a great ESF player? People who want to practice combos are going to whether we tell them to or not. These people are just here to give them hints on how.
Ok enuff with the flaming dudes, its getting really lame really fast, y not go beat the crap outta eachother at esf instead 
Anyway, the only practical combos I can think of are the ones when u nail a guy into the ground and he rolls, then u swoop and smack him up, but rather than following up with a few tele's and then smacking him again, charge up a blue beam and sending it flying up his ass Same ki, more damage! and the other really useful ones are the simple two hitters off walls and roofs and the like, for those of you who claim to do 4+ regularly, good for you, ( ie you probably have only pulled it off once against some guy by hitting him in the back while he was charging a scattering beam )
Combo's are more about situation and luck than practice, even I can nail 3 hitters against the new bots, but thats only coz its so easy to fool em into position :/ Being able to keep track of your opponent, move so you dont get hit, and hit back are far more important that a once of combo :/ (and never mind managing your ki during this whole thing). You wont be able to trick an opponent into flying backwards into a wall or get him to move towards the ground very often.
Its hard playing where I play coz we have very few good regular players and mostly international noobs :/ It's sooooo hard to combo with 100 ping when the other guy is sitting on 300+
Anyway, the only practical combos I can think of are the ones when u nail a guy into the ground and he rolls, then u swoop and smack him up, but rather than following up with a few tele's and then smacking him again, charge up a blue beam and sending it flying up his ass
Same ki, more damage! and the other really useful ones are the simple two hitters off walls and roofs and the like, for those of you who claim to do 4+ regularly, good for you, ( ie you probably have only pulled it off once against some guy by hitting him in the back while he was charging a scattering beam )Combo's are more about situation and luck than practice, even I can nail 3 hitters against the new bots, but thats only coz its so easy to fool em into position :/ Being able to keep track of your opponent, move so you dont get hit, and hit back are far more important that a once of combo :/ (and never mind managing your ki during this whole thing). You wont be able to trick an opponent into flying backwards into a wall or get him to move towards the ground very often.
Its hard playing where I play coz we have very few good regular players and mostly international noobs :/ It's sooooo hard to combo with 100 ping when the other guy is sitting on 300+
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@zolomaster - True about the difficulty doing combo's on a 300 pinger but the other day i came across i highpinger and it was like he was stuck in slow motion. It was great becuase you could do combo's to him much easier, still kind of akward though.
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Of course i loved it, what's there not to love, made my work easier. It isn't like i ONLY like fighting laggers, it's just that this one experience was cool to me. Don't start implying anything.
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Listen man, if you're going to reply to my every post trying to make me look bad, or anger me, then why don't you get on AIM or MSN and talk to me.
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Combos don't happen all easy most of the time it happens because you fool the other guy into it. And if you pull it off I see it as it being how many times you hit the guy before he hits you. You just need to know the signs of when its right to do a combo and when its not.
I'm not speficially replying to your posts just to make you look bad. When I happen to check in here I only see a post of you.
I don't know where you got your "trying to make me look bad" thing from. Is it me saying I can perform combos at real people while you have to try on laggers and not moving people? Sorry, that wasn't meant to be offended.
All I'm saying is it -might- help you out if you would practise on people fighting. Like Bi0 said, you have to know the sign of when you can perform a combo, in a fight.
You can just say "No, thanks for the advice anyway", instead of going through entire discussions. My post was meant as a help, not as some trick for someone to fall in so I can make him 'look bad'.
Don't get too worked up, I'm not trying to invade you.
I don't know where you got your "trying to make me look bad" thing from. Is it me saying I can perform combos at real people while you have to try on laggers and not moving people? Sorry, that wasn't meant to be offended.
All I'm saying is it -might- help you out if you would practise on people fighting. Like Bi0 said, you have to know the sign of when you can perform a combo, in a fight.
You can just say "No, thanks for the advice anyway", instead of going through entire discussions. My post was meant as a help, not as some trick for someone to fall in so I can make him 'look bad'.
Don't get too worked up, I'm not trying to invade you.
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Heh, you're posts above were implying that i can't do combos in a real fight, then after i bring up the lagger you just happen to say " Well I like to perform them on people that have decent ping and move fluently. Anyway that's just me, I can imagine people love to combo 300 pingers of people who don't move." Heh, not at all going back to your old posts, right?
The "advice" you gave me is fit for someone who is new to the game or someone that doesn't regularly fight players with decent ping. So by giving me that advice, you're basically telling me that's what i am. Don't bother giving me advice man, I don't need it, especially from the likes of you.
The "advice" you gave me is fit for someone who is new to the game or someone that doesn't regularly fight players with decent ping. So by giving me that advice, you're basically telling me that's what i am. Don't bother giving me advice man, I don't need it, especially from the likes of you.
And you dare telling me something about my attitude, you really got some problems there.
If you would've said that in the start, we wouldn't of have gone through this (Sounds familiar doesn't it? Try -memorizing- it this time. I never said you couldn't do them in a real fight, I said they might fail alot since all your doing (according to yourself) is just playing already to do combos at people who don't do anything back. Totally up to you, I'm not one to decide over that, that's you.
I couldn't care less about pingfights or whatsoever. I just thought let's name it in case some of us *cough* might have problems with it.
"The "advice" you gave me is fit for someone who is new to the game or someone that doesn't regularly fight players with decent ping. So by giving me that advice, you're basically telling me that's what i am."
No, it's you who's assuming in here. In fact, your assuming too much. I'm not telling you what you are, I'm getting my facts out of your posts, that's pretty much it. But if that's the only thing you can get out of my posts, 'telling you what to do'. I'd suggest you would stop replying and reading my posts then. I havn't mentioned that in any of my posts.
Anyway, point taken, apparently your all big and strong by yourself and don't need any help. I'd like to see those combos being used in a fight though.
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If you would've said that in the start, we wouldn't of have gone through this (Sounds familiar doesn't it? Try -memorizing- it this time. I never said you couldn't do them in a real fight, I said they might fail alot since all your doing (according to yourself) is just playing already to do combos at people who don't do anything back. Totally up to you, I'm not one to decide over that, that's you.
I couldn't care less about pingfights or whatsoever. I just thought let's name it in case some of us *cough* might have problems with it.
"The "advice" you gave me is fit for someone who is new to the game or someone that doesn't regularly fight players with decent ping. So by giving me that advice, you're basically telling me that's what i am."
No, it's you who's assuming in here. In fact, your assuming too much. I'm not telling you what you are, I'm getting my facts out of your posts, that's pretty much it. But if that's the only thing you can get out of my posts, 'telling you what to do'. I'd suggest you would stop replying and reading my posts then. I havn't mentioned that in any of my posts.
Anyway, point taken, apparently your all big and strong by yourself and don't need any help. I'd like to see those combos being used in a fight though.
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Your attitude was the point of my first post.
"I never said you couldn't do them in a real fight"
Well, you're constantly asking me to prove myself so anyone would assume that you don't beleive i can do these combo's in a real fight.
"I said they might fail alot since all your doing (according to yourself) is just playing already to do combos at people who don't do anything back. Totally up to you, I'm not one to decide over that, that's you."
There's another thing, you're assuming that is all we do. Apparently you think when i go play esf, everyone just stands around for me, allowing me to combo them. If that was true, then i would have been done with this game long before.
"No, it's you who's assuming in here. In fact, your assuming too much. I'm not telling you what you are, I'm getting my facts out of your posts, that's pretty much it. But if that's the only thing you can get out of my posts, 'telling you what to do'. I'd suggest you would stop replying and reading my posts then. I havn't mentioned that in any of my posts."
You're obviously not getting any facts out of my posts, becuase I never said anything like:
"I only do combo's on stationary targets"
"I constantly find laggers that make things easier for me"
Yes, i did mention that i came across a lagger and on this occasion he happened to be stuck in slow motion due to his lag. You automatically jump on this and start giving me advice that is more like common sense than anything else. If you think i don't know that i should practice against difficult players, then you must think that I'm not that good.
We should really continue this elsewhere such as AIM or MSN like i have suggested before. So feel free to IM me anytime.
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"I never said you couldn't do them in a real fight"
Well, you're constantly asking me to prove myself so anyone would assume that you don't beleive i can do these combo's in a real fight.
"I said they might fail alot since all your doing (according to yourself) is just playing already to do combos at people who don't do anything back. Totally up to you, I'm not one to decide over that, that's you."
There's another thing, you're assuming that is all we do. Apparently you think when i go play esf, everyone just stands around for me, allowing me to combo them. If that was true, then i would have been done with this game long before.
"No, it's you who's assuming in here. In fact, your assuming too much. I'm not telling you what you are, I'm getting my facts out of your posts, that's pretty much it. But if that's the only thing you can get out of my posts, 'telling you what to do'. I'd suggest you would stop replying and reading my posts then. I havn't mentioned that in any of my posts."
You're obviously not getting any facts out of my posts, becuase I never said anything like:
"I only do combo's on stationary targets"
"I constantly find laggers that make things easier for me"
Yes, i did mention that i came across a lagger and on this occasion he happened to be stuck in slow motion due to his lag. You automatically jump on this and start giving me advice that is more like common sense than anything else. If you think i don't know that i should practice against difficult players, then you must think that I'm not that good.
We should really continue this elsewhere such as AIM or MSN like i have suggested before. So feel free to IM me anytime.
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Combos are just when they come up. Its not well to look for them all the time. I personally enjoy when i hit someone into a wall teleport below to where there falling after they hit the wall and hit them back up. Its not something I plan to do it just happens. Thats also one of the reasons I think esf is great.
I've suggested you many times to just let it go and forget about it. And guess what, your ignorance is holding you back and that's why this happens. Congratulations! Now just let it go, this doesn't make it better for you in any way.
That is all 'we' do? I never invoked anyone else. Since your the one going straight for me, I replied back at you. If I think, I should at least played you at a couple of servers. I've only played you on some SL server, nothing to talk about.
And yes, I get the facts straight from your post. Atm I'm too tired to even lay a hand on my mouse scrolling up to read your replies. I'm done with it, you aren't, what's keeping you feeling that offended? Does it have to do with who's better?
If we're going around who's better and it's all about being good. Then contact me anytime and we'll have a little match. As your bashing my suggestions, I don't feel the need listening to yours.
Your the one going on about this, I tried to end it many times, as your going on, up to you.
That is all 'we' do? I never invoked anyone else. Since your the one going straight for me, I replied back at you. If I think, I should at least played you at a couple of servers. I've only played you on some SL server, nothing to talk about.
And yes, I get the facts straight from your post. Atm I'm too tired to even lay a hand on my mouse scrolling up to read your replies. I'm done with it, you aren't, what's keeping you feeling that offended? Does it have to do with who's better?
If we're going around who's better and it's all about being good. Then contact me anytime and we'll have a little match. As your bashing my suggestions, I don't feel the need listening to yours.
Your the one going on about this, I tried to end it many times, as your going on, up to you.
Ok, both of you are hereby suspended from replying to my thread, thank you. If any of you do, I will request that a moderator/admin close it. I'm tired of hearing you two trying to insult each other and ruining my thread. So please, keep your comments elsewhere!
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P.S. I am not trying to sound like a mod, I'm just asking in advanced for a mod to close this in a special way.
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P.S. I am not trying to sound like a mod, I'm just asking in advanced for a mod to close this in a special way
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First of all, i beleive you only suggested we drop this once, but you're being hypocritical by replying so many times. I've suggested we do this on AIM or MSN at least three times now, i even added you to my list but you're never on.
You're trying to end this? That's funny, i thought that whole smart-ass reply of yours had a different purpose. I'm done with this thread, It's just plain annoying reading your posts now. I'm suprised it hasn't been closed, but if you would like to continue then go ahead and take it to AIM.
You're trying to end this? That's funny, i thought that whole smart-ass reply of yours had a different purpose. I'm done with this thread, It's just plain annoying reading your posts now. I'm suprised it hasn't been closed, but if you would like to continue then go ahead and take it to AIM.