If you were to find a Death Note...

[Dzamija]

I'm not validating anything nor defending him, I was merely pointing out that he doesn't want to kill all gypsies, but instead only the gypsies in his country. Don't jump out of your pants.

And what the hell is up everyone comparing everything to Hitler? Difference between Hitler and Punishing: Hitler DID kill Jews, and he had the power to do so. Punishing is saying that he would kill gypsies if he had the power to do so, but we don't know if he would actually do it until he recieved that power, or in this case, the Death Note.

Do yourself a favor and come to live in Romania for about a year or so. Visit different towns and pay some attention to the gypsies. Or at the very least, ask other romanians what gypsies are like. You're basically casting away everything he says claiming it's generalization, without being informed of the actual situation in Romania.

 

[Zeonix]

I'm not validating anything nor defending him, I was merely pointing out that he doesn't want to kill all gypsies, but instead only the gypsies in his country. Don't jump out of your pants.

And what the hell is up everyone comparing everything to Hitler? Difference between Hitler and Punishing: Hitler DID kill Jews, and he had the power to do so. Punishing is saying that he would kill gypsies if he had the power to do so, but we don't know if he would actually do it until he recieved that power, or in this case, the Death Note.

Do yourself a favor and come to live in Romania for about a year or so. Visit different towns and pay some attention to the gypsies. Or at the very least, ask other romanians what gypsies are like. You're basically casting away everything he says claiming it's generalization, without being informed of the actual situation in Romania.

There is absolutely no justification for wanting to murder an entire people. I don't expect you to understand this for extremely obvious reasons. Wanting, in your heart of hearts, to commit genocide isn't something you smile about and say, "Well, it's not like he doesn't have the power lol!" Hitler didn't always have the power, but he had the hate and that's what mattered most. All it takes is one person the others are willing to listen to. Just one person who is able to tap into that anger and hatred. I'm going to go ahead and assume all Serbians and Romanians are genocidal pricks who, for one reason or another, want to murder entire groups of people because they don't like being "bullied" based on my experience dealing with the likes of you. There's no way in hell so many extremists would end up in the same place, so obviously all Romanians and Serbs must be exactly like you.

Right?

Wrong.

I hope, anyway.

 

[Dzamija]

There is absolutely no justification for wanting to murder an entire people. I don't expect you to understand this for extremely obvious reasons. Wanting, in your heart of hearts, to commit genocide isn't something you smile about and say, "Well, it's not like he doesn't have the power lol!" Hitler didn't always have the power, but he had the hate and that's what mattered most. All it takes is one person the others are willing to listen to. Just one person who is able to tap into that anger and hatred. I'm going to go ahead and assume all Serbians and Romanians are genocidal pricks who, for one reason or another, want to murder entire groups of people because they don't like being "bullied" based on my experience dealing with the likes of you. There's no way in hell so many extremists would end up in the same place, so obviously all Romanians and Serbs must be exactly like you.

Right?

Wrong.

I hope, anyway.

Did I ever say I agree with killing all the gypsies in Romania? Find where I said that. I support Punishing's claim that most gypsies in Romania are criminals, thieves, beggars and other forms of low-life. Until you prove him wrong, I'm going to keep supporting that fact, simply because I believe him, who lives there and is probably aware of the situation, more than you, who doesn't know anything about it, but still doesn't believe him.

And one more thing. You keep saying that he wants to kill every gypsy in the world, while he clearly stated it was just those in Romania. Probably because it's the gypsies in Romania that are bad. From what you're saying, the gypsies in the USA aren't bad, and aren't a problem to society. Even though they're ethnically the same (or almost the same), they're different people.

Again, not all gypsies. Just the gypsies in Romania. Not saying he should do it, but those are two different things. One one side, the gypsies that are mostly low-life that are usually also threats to society, on the other hand, every single gypsy in the world. Not the same.

 

[Zeonix]

Did I ever say I agree with killing all the gypsies in Romania? Find where I said that. I support Punishing's claim that most gypsies in Romania are criminals, thieves, beggars and other forms of low-life. Until you prove him wrong, I'm going to keep supporting that fact, simply because I believe him, who lives there and is probably aware of the situation, more than you, who doesn't know anything about it, but still doesn't believe him.

And one more thing. You keep saying that he wants to kill every gypsy in the world, while he clearly stated it was just those in Romania. Probably because it's the gypsies in Romania that are bad. From what you're saying, the gypsies in the USA aren't bad, and aren't a problem to society. Even though they're ethnically the same (or almost the same), they're different people.

Again, not all gypsies. Just the gypsies in Romania. Not saying he should do it, but those are two different things. One one side, the gypsies that are mostly low-life that are usually also threats to society, on the other hand, every single gypsy in the world. Not the same.

What you're saying is the equivalent of me listening and agreeing with a member of the KKK that all blacks, hispanics, jews and asians need to die, because I don't live in the South. I mean, they live down there and I don't, and although the same types of people live up here, they're obviously different, or else the KKK wouldn't want to kill them. I mean, we don't have to kill all blacks, hispanics, jews and asians. Just the ones down south. The rest can live happily ever after.

Right?

****ing wrong.

You know damn well you agree with Punishing or else you wouldn't be defending his post. And yes. You are defending his post. You're saying he knows what every single gypsy is reaaaaally like in Romania, so his opinion is correct and you agree with it because neither you nor I live in his country.

You're seriously ****ed up, Dan.

 

[LionHeart]

What you're saying is the equivalent of me listening and agreeing with a member of the KKK that all blacks, hispanics, jews and asians need to die, because I don't live in the South. I mean, they live down there and I don't, and although the same types of people live up here, they're obviously different, or else the KKK wouldn't want to kill them. I mean, we don't have to kill all blacks, hispanics, jews and asians. Just the ones down south. The rest can live happily ever after.

Right?

****ing wrong.

You know damn well you agree with Punishing or else you wouldn't be defending his post. And yes. You are defending his post. You're saying he knows what every single gypsy is reaaaaally like in Romania, so his opinion is correct and you agree with it because neither you nor I live in his country.

You're seriously ****ed up, Dan.

You don't leave anywhere near Romania so you have no say in this.
You don't me saying if it's ok to kill bush or not. People should mind their own buisness.

 

[Dzamija]

.......

Alright, I'm going to go ahead and find where I said all gypsies should die.

EDIT: In my defense of Punishing, I must say most of the gypsies I've met in real life, at least here in my town, and many others are beggars, criminals, and such. I have met a few gypsies that actually met jobs, but the most I see are those who scavenge stuff from trash cans, put it on their carriage (pulled by a horse) and take it away somewhere. They also steal stuff and then sell it, a gypsy once got busted for stealing my friend's bike and trying to sell it at a local market.

I'm not saying that they're all like that. But, at least here, most of them are.

No....not there.

I'm saying that most gypsies here, and in Romania, are either low-lives or threats to society. Or both. You still haven't proven me wrong. Again, MOST gypsies, not all. Once more, MOST gypsies, not all. One more time, MOST gypsies are low-lives and/or threats to society, not all of them. Not everywhere, just HERE.Once more, they aren't low-lives and/or threats to society EVERYWHERE, just here. Get it now? If so, then stop ****ing changing stuff I say into stuff that you can respond to.

Back to the point. Since you're so interested in finding out what I would do with the Death Note (even though I already said it), I'd use it to kill all forms of threats to society, be it criminals, murderers, rapists, psychopaths or anything else that threatens a healthy society. If some of them are gypsies, then so be it. If most of them are gypsies, so be it. If all of them are gypsies, SO BE IT. Let's focus on this last situation.

Does that make me a racist? No. Because I'm not killing out of hate. I'm not killing them because they're gypsies, I'm killing them because they're threats to society. Eliminating all threats to society would make this world a better place, and that's just what I think. That's something you can't change even if you tried. If you think I'm some kind of Neo-Nazi in training, then that's your problem.

 

[Zeonix]

.......

Alright, I'm going to go ahead and find where I said all gypsies should die.


No....not there.

I'm saying that most gypsies here, and in Romania, are either low-lives or threats to society. Or both. You still haven't proven me wrong. Again, MOST gypsies, not all. Once more, MOST gypsies, not all. One more time, MOST gypsies are low-lives and/or threats to society, not all of them. Not everywhere, just HERE.Once more, they aren't low-lives and/or threats to society EVERYWHERE, just here. Get it now? If so, then stop ****ing changing stuff I say into stuff that you can respond to.

Back to the point. Since you're so interested in finding out what I would do with the Death Note (even though I already said it), I'd use it to kill all forms of threats to society, be it criminals, murderers, rapists, psychopaths or anything else that threatens a healthy society. If some of them are gypsies, then so be it. If most of them are gypsies, so be it. If all of them are gypsies, SO BE IT. Let's focus on this last situation.

Does that make me a racist? No. Because I'm not killing out of hate. I'm not killing them because they're gypsies, I'm killing them because they're threats to society. Eliminating all threats to society would make this world a better place, and that's just what I think. That's something you can't change even if you tried. If you think I'm some kind of Neo-Nazi in training, then that's your problem.

I win .

Although, just for clarification's sake, when I said most, I was specifically using the word on a local level, that level, of course, being Romania.

At least now we all know where genocide begins, and in the case of Serbia, how it will end:

Right back where it started.

 

[Zeonix]

I'll leave that judgment up to the viewers of this forum, but you've done an incredible amount of damage to yourself in just this one thread.

 

[Dzamija]

I win .

Although, just for clarification's sake, when I said most, I was specifically using the word on a local level, that level, of course, being Romania.

You never said most. Whenever I said 'most' you somehow magically transformed it into 'all'.

In the same way that you 'won' now.

 

[MC]

You never said most. Whenever I said 'most' you somehow magically transformed it into 'all'.

In the same way that you 'won' now.

"Save it for the cross burning, Adolf." - Bender

 

[Zeonix]

You never said most. Whenever I said 'most' you somehow magically transformed it into 'all'.

In the same way that you 'won' now.

He wants to kill all of the gypsies in Romania. Not some. Not most. All.

I'd kill all and every single gipsie in my country. I'd only let half-bloods alive since they aren't as bad as full-blooded ones.

All. Every single gypsie in Romania.

And he even categorized them into half-bloods and full-bloods. Amazing.

 

[Dzamija]

I never agreed with that. But you made it seem like I did. I never once said "all gypsies should die". I said that the low-life/threats to society that are gypsies would die if I had the Death Note. That's it. Not because they're gypsies, but because they're threats to society.

You're trying to make a racist out of me. It isn't working. Give up.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Warning :warning: to Punishing for playing and pushing the genocide card and in so doing condoning bigotry on the boards. We've relaxed our rules about political discussions but racism and prejudice are both powerful forms of personal disrespect to anyone who might be associated with said groups, and respect is the name of the game on our boards.

Dzamija you're cutting as well, but I'll give you an opportunity to drop the subject. Both of your arguments are strictly subjective and are logical fallacies (hasty generalization). You can't jump from an objective stance in where you percieve the majority of individuals you have met (Key article being the word "most" in your argument) to the subjective stance that "most" of the gypsies where the two of you live fit into your narrow profile. Cultural values and attitudes shift from neighborhood to neighborhood and you don't have enough information to color your country in such broad strokes. You find me a scientific consensus with samples taken from all over both countries and I'll allow you to keep using those sweeping generalizations.

 

[MC]

STAB. STABBITY. Murdering post ~~ Can't have somebody dropping in to get in the last stab after I make a judgement. ~Boyster
Edit

Didn't see Devil Advocate's post - I apologize.

All is forgiven.

 

[wheres_]

If I had a deathnote, I would end up just like light, except I wouldn't last half as long. Tbh.

 

[Punishing]

first off its not real second even if you think you would make the world better by killing a group of people that makes you a.) racist b.) retarded and c.) a punk @$$ because you just are

@Devil's Advocate , thanks for the warning tough you seem to have forgotten about someone who flamed.. It's nice how you give warnings for speaking my mind yet you didn't even notice a guy flaming with no reason.

Cool.

 

[Tenzo]

Enough of this here!!!
Get on topic for God's sake.

 

[Damaera]

Feel free to warn me for this post, but for the sake of somebody getting banned just because of this damned thread:

@Devil's Advocate , thanks for the warning tough you seem to have forgotten about someone who flamed.. It's nice how you give warnings for speaking my mind yet you didn't even notice a guy flaming with no reason.

Cool.

Bro, just let it go. It's one warning, not the end of the world. It's still 3 warnings and a ban, not one warning and a ban. Like I said before, feel free to warn me, but this post is here so people won't get banned. The moderators will take care of the other people, but for now just let it go and send Boyster a PM, or something.

 

[Majin_You]

first off its not real second even if you think you would make the world better by killing a group of people that makes you a.) racist b.) retarded and c.) a punk @$$ because you just are

And that post gets you: a) A warning.

Two wrongs don't make a right in argumentation or on these forums. His attitude doesn't excuse your flaming.

You're seriously ****ed up, Dan.

Since you're representing the team in public, now, I'm going to ask you to avoid remarks like the one I just quoted. I know, as a matter of fact, that you could have gotten the point across without it.

 

[Dokutayuu]

If I had a deathnote, I would end up just like light, except I wouldn't last half as long. Tbh.

Same here but I have a cunning plan. Keep myself as quiet as possible and kill off people causing suffering (such as terrorist leaders). Plus I'd take the eyes right away. I need to be sure I get my targets, 30 or so years less me wouldn't do too much.

I'd never give away myself like Light did when he killed L. Lind Tailor, it was a really bad move. L (if he existed) would not be a target, he helps the world. No mass genocide for me, just people causing mass suffering.