Hope for diabetics

[Vegeta's Briefs]

Yeah, some of you guys know that my dad was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes a month or so ago, and his blood sugar was pretty high, but we found something that really works with controlling diabetes.


Now, I know a lot of people have diabetic family members/friends or are diabetics themselves and they use medication to help them control diabetes, but from what I've seen with 8 people, after the first 3 or 4 years, it stops working.

My grandmother is physically unable to lose weight, her hearing has vanished, her voice is going too, she's weak, she's losing energy, and she is slowly dying right in front of everybody. She takes the medication, and has been taking it for over 20 years. She's the reason my father ventured for some other way. Not to mention his two uncles, three great aunts, and one of his cousins who are all turning out the same way.

So my father searched and searched, and finally got recommendation by a Dr. Bashire's to go on this diet. I won't name the diet until the very end so that people aren't biased towards it, but if you want to go ahead and check, be my guest. Also, if you guess it, that's okay. That means you're at least partially familiar with the diet.

Anyways, this diet requires three stages, but one constant thing: fat. Now, I know a lot of people say that fat is bad for you, but a lot also say that they were wrong in the past and that fat is actually good for you.

Each stage lasts from one to two weeks, depending on how far you want it to come along. The first stage requires 0 carbs, then the second requires 20 carbs, and the third depends on your body. My brother is shooting for 40, and my father is shooting 50. The diet consists of healthy food, and some unhealthy food thrown in and about.

For one month my dad has been taking this diet, having omelettes dripped with bacons and mushrooms for breakfast, salads with bleu cheese dressing and bacon, quacamole, and cheese for lunch, and then he has pot roast or some other form of cooked meat (his favorite is beef, although he had lots of fish in the first two stages of the diet) and two servings of veggies with one serving of grain (corn, rice, potatoes... anything in that group). For his snack, he has triscuit, pork rinds with hot sauce, or ice cream.

Eating this, last Friday he went to the doctor for his monthly check-up, and apparently, if they hadn't already diagnosed the diabetes, they wouldn't have believed he had them. He wasn't just doing great, he was exactly on the blood-sugar count that non-diabetics of his height had. Not only that, but he's lost down from a 42 waist to a 38. He's also more energetic and less grouchy.

This diet is the Atkin's diet, and I suggest buying Atkin's "Fat Fast" (for first-time users: the fat fast is a little three-day thing to help test and see if this diet will work for you) and his "Atkin's Diet Plan" books before you go "that doesn't work".

So, anyways, if you're a diabetic or know a diabetic, tell them about this! It really works! He's down to testing his blood once a day! And I know there are some people who prefer the medicine, and that's good, but if they're willing to try, this is something that will help them.

NOTE: It didn't help my mom lose weight, remember that. Her bloodsugar is fine, although she's not diabetic, but she's not losing weight. She has gained energy, though, and she no longer cramps when it's her time of the month. She's been suffering from constant stomach aches in addition to that for the past 5 years, and after this diet, she's practically dancing.


So, honestly, give it shot.

 

[SailorAlea]

GASP! That method must've been derived from--You Guessed It! MODERN SCIENCE!

And anyway, with the Atkins diet, you're not supposed to eat things like "ice cream," as it contains vast amounts of sugar, a carbohydrate, which goes against the diet.

 

[Deverz]

I haven't seen any side effect's from the medication in my grandparents they have both been using it from several years and are still going on strong

And your father shouldn't be having too much sugar at all diabetics are ment to have it in small doses like a couple of peices of fruit or a couple of lollies

 

[Scorcher2k]

Ya, atkins is a low carb diet. You can find a list of foods you can eat and there carb listings right on the net. A friend of mine, my parents, and my uncle have all tried it. It will help you loose weight fast but you have to remember that its going to be difficult and your going to put the weight right back on if you don't eat healthy after you stop dieting. You should of course excercise at least some while doing the diet as thats what any diet needs. If you like red meat and vegetables than you can stand the atkins. If you can't than its going to be hell for you.

 

[SailorAlea]

Vegeta's Briefs seems to think (ROFL) that "The Atkins Diet is SuperHealthy!" even though even Atkins himself warned people against using it for more then 2 weeks in a row, and that's why you're supposed to take vitamins during it, because you're eating horribly bad for you foods, like bacon and eggs, and cheese. *snicker*

And by the way, VB, Fat is not healthy for you. There are many types of fat--Saturated fat, Poly-unsaturated fat, Mono-unsaturated fat, Trans-fats, Cholesterol, High-density lipoprotein, Low-density lipoprotein, Omega-3 and Omega-6 fats. Saturated fat, like the kind Bacon has, is -always- bad for you.

Polyunsaturated fat also helps lower cholestoral in the blood, and eating Saturated fat raises it. Also, Polyunsatured fat lowers the amount of LDL Cholestoral, which is good for you.

I suggest you read up on things before idiotically stating "We found out Fat ISN'T bad for you!"

 

[Deverz]

Fat is simply going to gather in anyone who uses this diet's heart valves if they consumes too much as any other person would

 

[Pain]

does this method of curing diabetes cause lung cancer?
*chuckle*

 

[Deverz]

And what has that got todo with anything :\

 

[SailorAlea]

Deverz, it's an inside joke from her rambling in "should smoking be banned in bars/pubs." She has denounced Science, yet constantly refers to it.. and even the things she claims to know about, the Atkins diet and that fat is not bad, she only knows half the truth.

 

[Deverz]

I see

I guess that is why you pointed out that it was modern science that came up with the diet

Carry on then

 

[Optimus Prime]

The diet consists of healthy food, and some unhealthy food thrown in and about.

And omelettes DRIPPING in bacon is considered in and about O_O

 

[Vegeta's Briefs]

Alea, you are laughable. Atkin's isn't a scientist, he's a dietrician.

And fruits, ice cream, and candy aren't a problem. My father can eat raisins, plums, peaches, and pears. He can also eat raspberry's and strawberry's, although he prefers not too. And in case you guys didn't notice, there are Atkin's ice creams that are all natural and come in half-cup servings for the diabetics and dieting people. They also have Atkins candy that tastes a lot like Dark Chocolate.

In case you don't know the diet like *cough* then here's this small piece of help: Atkins says it's alright to enjoy yourself. In fact, he says eat lemon lollipops and Cheesecake. As long as you keep your carbs under a certain amount, you'll do fine. But cut back on the grains, especially white grains, and white sugars. There's this suger-substance called "Splenda" that is perfectly healthy, and it comes from an actual plant so it's not "fake sugar" it's just "different sugar". And it's very healthy for you. Stevia is another recommendation. And you can have all the cream in your coffee that you want.

He's been testing all three phases and the Fat Fast for over 9 years, and it has provided him with enough evidence to show that it isn't just healthy, it's healthier than most diets out there today.

As proven with me (who has gained energy and lost weight) and my father (who is diabetic and is reading normal) and my brother (who has gained energy and lost weight) and my uncle (who has shown great improvement in the stomach area) and my grandfather (who has lost weight and gained energy) and my two best friends (who haven't just lost weight and gained energy, but lost such a great ammount it's astonishing).

If you don't believe it, buy the books and take it yourself. Though I suggest going on the three-day fat fast first. If the three-day doesn't help you lose weight, lower your blood sugar, or gain energy, than it's most likely not for you. And Alea, it's the fat fast that Atkins says not to use for more than two weeks, because two weeks is the time on each phase. That equals up to six weeks! So why would he say only use one phase of his three phase program?

And if you don't want to help diabetics, that's fine with me, but being the child of one, the neice of 5, and the grandchild of 2, I kinda care about them. And considering I have all the books, take the diet myself as well as help manage over 10 other people that take the diet, I'd say I know alot about it compared to you, who only read a small bit about it off the internet.



BTW, bacon has 0 carbs, so he can eat a hefty amount of that and still have normal blood sugar. I meant unhealthy foods as in his occasional Cheetoh or whatever. He cheats every now and then.

Off-topic: Pain, your inbox is full, and nothing can help lung cancer right now. You can prevent it, but not cure it. Like diabetes.

 

[fryd4good]

The occasional Cheetoh? Poor guy... one miserable Cheetoh

 

[Vegeta's Briefs]

A small bag full

What he cheats on are little things like that. A few pringles here, maybe a bite of Caramel Praline Crunch frozen yogurt there, a bite or two of kit-kats. He does it in small portions so as not to raise his blood-sugar.


And, I forgot to mention, there's a soda called Diet Rite, and for diabetics who crave some sort of carbonated water, this is the thing for you. That and just plain carbonated water, but my dad prefers "flavor", lol. So check out Diet Rite too.

 

[Scorcher2k]

Traditionally atkins doesn't include sweets beause of the sugars. Carbohydrates is what atkins is all about. Yes, a piece of bacon doens't have any carbs but if thats all you eat your going to have a heart attack while having low blood sugar.

 

[SailorAlea]

I agree, that the Atkins diet is a wonderful diet. But you're not supposed to stay on it for more than 2 weeks at a time, or else you get loaded with cholestoral.

How funny, Vegeta's Briefs, that you chose not to respond to the things you were wrong about. And by the way, Dieticians are Scientists, kay? Thanks.

 

[Vegeta's Briefs]

No, dietricians are people that spend hours figuring out what is, in their opinion, healthy to eat. Scientists live in a lab and shoot out random theories because they have to deliver something after all those paychecks. And I chose to respond to all in one paragraph, rather than spend a whole 10,000 words countering your lack of knowledge. Kay? Thanks.

The Atkins diet is to be started whenever you choose, and it is to be continued through the three phases, and then extended to however many more weeks, months, or years that you want.

Maybe you should do some more research. Actually buy a book or two.

And to Fryd, Atkins includes sweets in it's special guide to losing weight fast. You need a full balance, including sugar. Now, he doesn't suggest gorging yourself on M&M's, but he does suggest one Atkins bar a day for those with the sweet tooth. Ice cream too, if you want it.

And of course you don't eat just bacon, but it's not something that's "unhealthy" for you, as Optimus Prime suggested. Using the Atkins plan, it's a perfectly healthy snack or side. Something to add to your omelette or salad.


BTW, another note for the first-time Atkins users or people considering it, I'm having a cheesecake for my birthday, and using the Atkins plan, having one slice of cheesecake is just fine. Especially if you have low carbs throughout the rest of the day.

 

[Eon]

I'm going to stop anything before it starts
This is about taking the Atkins Diet (I think)
not about Dietricians being scientists...how many carbs are in cheesecake or whatever...
but I can see how this just inhales debates openly, but things just talking about one another's knowledge isn't really....cool... No one is in trouble, I'm just proposing keep the debating to a peaceful level before it heats up.
Thank you.


EDIT
I know the deal with cheesecake VB, I was jsut using it as a random example

 

[Vegeta's Briefs]

Thanks Magus. I was actually just highlighting the freedom you have in the Atkins diet, and that you can still get the results my father got. That was the deal with the cheesecake.

 

[SailorAlea]

He wasn't actually "on your side," so to speak, so you really shouldn't thank him.

Also, I was refering to the fact that two times you have said "Science was wrong! Fat's not actually bad for you!" Which is completely false. SOME types are bad, some are good, and saturated--the kind in bacon, is always bad.

I very obviously know more about the Atkins diet then you do, because with a quick search of google, confirms there are about five hundred thousand websites which all say the same thing: Atkins diet is dangerous for more then two weeks, and John Atkins, the creator, also said so in his precious books that you recommend I buy.

Maybe I should just call "Ol Uncle Takashi," the Treehopping Ninja who watches 16 million people smoke 8 packs of cigarettes a day.