Evolution

[Zeonix]

That's some seriously flawed logic, but okay. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we came from the Garden of Eden or any of that, but unless you're taking intelligent design to be based around the bible as being literal rather than metaphorical, it's kind of an obtuse angle to take. One could easily say a cosmic being created the big bang, and everything else works according to the laws this cosmic being put in place for this Universe.

 

[Spunky]

Aren't Human and ape DNA extremely similar?

Some argue there's a 1% difference, while others argue there's a 2% or even 3% difference. It's somewhere in there. I'm not sure if there's a factual answer to that today, and I'm too lazy to do the research. :/

 

[Zeonix]

Even a 1% difference is significant when you consider just how many possibilities exist within that 1%. I mean, just look at the huge leap between Magilla Gorilla and one of us.

 

[Cap J]

If Creationists can have seriously flawed logic ("no proof of evolution, therefore design") then why can't I?

 

[Zeonix]

Because then you're playing ball with them, and believe me when I say they can't be beaten on their home turf. It'd be like trying to out brawl the Hulk. Not going to happen.

 

[Cap J]

Shame, answering their nonsense with sillyness to make them angry was sounding like fun too.

 

[Zeonix]

They don't get angry. They just feel bad for you. You know, because they know the truth and we're bumping into walls in the dark.

So do what I do and claim to be God.

 

[Cap J]

"Claim"? Are....are you saying you may not in fact be God? This is simply too outrageous a claim and must therefore be a test of our faith. You sneaky devil you.

....

and by "devil" I of course mean "God". <_<

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Also, for people who are arguing about a lack of fossils of animals that more clearly show on going changes, let's look at the Tyrannosaurus Rex, the species was around for 5 million years and yet the number of actual specimens we have are in the single figures. With that in mind, it's laughably easy for us to not find fossils for thousands of extinct species.

 

[VideoJinx]

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Also, for people who are arguing about a lack of fossils of animals that more clearly show on going changes, let's look at the Tyrannosaurus Rex, the species was around for 5 million years and yet the number of actual specimens we have are in the single figures. With that in mind, it's laughably easy for us to not find fossils for thousands of extinct species.

hmm?? Carbon dating is over-rated.. and what does finding a T-Rex fossil have anything to do with evolution?

If your gonna say we evolved from dinos.. maybe you should check out some pretty old news that suggest we existed in the dino age as well..

 

[SailorAlea]

hmm?? Carbon dating is over-rated.. and what does finding a T-Rex fossil have anything to do with evolution?

If your gonna say we evolved from dinos.. maybe you should check out some pretty old news that suggest we existed in the dino age as well..

1) Carbon dating is a widely scientifically accepted method of dating.

2) Fossils have a lot to do with evolution.

3) He's not saying we evolved from dinosaurs.

4) Homo sapiens definitely did not exist in any of the eras dinosaurs existed.

 

[VideoJinx]

Widely accepted/used, that could explain a lot. It still isn't a tool used to measure the age of something that's "Supposedly" millions of years old.

And there are still many variables that can alter the resulting "Estimated age" of an object that's thousands of yrs old, and the limit to how far back carbon dating can be used.. that's "Scientifically accepted".. from what i remember is only 50,000 yrs

Fossil dating, through carbon dating is inaccurate.. imo..

and from memory i recall something about the discovery of Dino/Homo sapien foot prints side by side.

 

[Zeonix]

Carbon dating gives you a ballpark figure, but it isn't like a scientist is saying, "Okay, this fossil is between 3 years and 4 billion years old." It's usually relatively specific and gives you a good idea of the fossil's age. Yes, there are several factors that can throw a reading off, but it isn't bad enough to warrant throwing carbon dating out the window. We shouldn't stop performing heart transplants just because it doesn't always work.

 

[SailorAlea]

Widely accepted/used, that could explain a lot. It still isn't a tool used to measure the age of something that's "Supposedly" millions of years old.

Carbon dating isn't the only tool used to determine the age of objects.

and from memory i recall something about the discovery of Dino/Homo sapien foot prints side by side.

No.

 

[VideoJinx]

Evolution "theory" crushed...

Here is hard evidence that crushes the evolution "theory".

And yes this is the guy from before, and more facts.. not just scientific facts"

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=et8JNZVq4xo&feature=related"]YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #1[/ame]

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=0k2PbvQ_54o&feature=related"]YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #2[/ame]

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2GeaFRnBeE&feature=related"]YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #3[/ame]

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=XQD2vQE6Xv0&feature=related"]YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #4[/ame]

Here is for proof of God imo.

[ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=o2RD4vTuPN0&feature=related"]YouTube - GOD EXISTS, ATHEISTS!!! I'll prove it SCIENTIFICALLY!![/ame]

 

[Zeonix]

Dude, pretend to give a **** and write up a post.

 

[VideoJinx]

What is their to type, all the info needed are in those vid clips.

If anyone cares enough to watch it all, then they will.

 

[SailorAlea]

Here is hard evidence that crushes the evolution "theory".

And yes this is the guy from before, and more facts.. not just scientific facts"

YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #1

YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #2

YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #3

YouTube - EVOLUTION AND DAWKINS SMASHED TO PIECES WITH PROOF OF GOD #4

These videos have their comments disabled for a reason--the creator is a whackjob who can't stand scientific scrutiny. His other videos are about aliens and ghosts, again with comments disabled.

Here is for proof of God imo.

YouTube - GOD EXISTS, ATHEISTS!!! I'll prove it SCIENTIFICALLY!!

This video is interesting, but it's not proof. And it's not entirely accurate. Empirical observation shows that yes, the universe was at one point in time, a singularity. However, nothing says that that singularity was always a singularity; it's also possible the universe goes through repeated stages of big bangs, crunches, and so forth. We simply don't know yet.

However, to jump to a supernatural solution (as humans tend to do, and have since we existed) is too hasty. "We can't currently explain (X)" is not an argument for "(X) must be caused by God."

 

[Killface]

Here is for proof of God imo.

YouTube - GOD EXISTS, ATHEISTS!!! I'll prove it SCIENTIFICALLY!!

Although I'm a firm believer in god, this whole video is based off of theory and speculation and definitely doesn't show that god is existent based off of scientific proof.

Sorry dude, but that video summarized what most people believe when it comes to the creation of the universe.


Oh.. and for any atheists out there. I'm not trying to start an argument, but could someone inform me on how the universe was created if god didn't create it? I've always wondered what atheists believed when it came to the creation of the universe.

 

[SailorAlea]

Oh.. and for any atheists out there. I'm not trying to start an argument, but could someone inform me on how the universe was created if god didn't create it? I've always wondered what atheists believed when it came to the creation of the universe.

While I'm not an atheist, I'll answer for you: The "truth" behind the origin of the universe is not known, may never be known, and is possibly unknowable.

The urge to just explain away a currently unknown physical occurence with the statement "God did it" helps no one and is contrary to science, which seeks to explain reality through observable, verifiable (repeatable) means.

 

[J-Dude]

The urge to just explain away a currently unknown physical occurence with the statement "God did it" helps no one

I dunno, helps me