Cats Or Dogs

Whats a better animal?

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Ok. I am going to make this very simple so that I do not need to say it more than once.

This thread asks: What do you think is better: a cat or a dog? This thread does not ask you to debate the point and to force your opinions upon others. I don't know about you ladies and gentlemen, but I don't like having to ban discussion topics on the basis that people are too aggressive with them. This is just as bad, if not worse than a Console War. People are entitled to their likes and dislikes, leave it at that. This forum is not here for you to create legions of people who think just like you - it is to ask opinion and to share ideas in a civil manner. To prevent flaming, I ask that you post your opinion on the original question and leave it at that.

This thread is not asking for a philosophical essay on responsibility, it is asking "Which do you prefer?".

Now, continue to vote and post your opinion, but, as my Chemistry instructor has said, "Follow the KISS principle".
 
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No. You shouldn't have to take care of every aspect of a pet's life--which is why cats are better pets. You don't have to DO everything for them. They can take care of themselves, while still depending on you for love and affection. You can still fully raise the pet without having to clean up it's feces that it leaves all over the floor.
You don't HAVE to take care of every aspect, the onyl thing you need to do for a dog is to feed it. The rest is pretty much optional. However, when people go out to buy a dog, they usually intend on doing things like that, becuase they're responsible. Most people enjoy spending time with their dog, and taking care of it, while you make it sound like a negative. I think it just shows that you're not responsible, or you just don't want to be responsible.

"Also, the only reason cats aren't banned is becuase they really can't do much harm if they wanted to."

No, I'm afraid that that's not the "only reason" cats aren't 'banned.' Cats are not statistically likely, especially if not mis-treated, to attack people. Look at the number of reported cat attacks nation-wide, as compared to the number of dog attacks.
Like i said before, cat's really aren't capable of harming you anyway, so there aren't going to be many statistics on cat's attacking people when the most they can do is give you a scratch. Now if you had a tiger on the other hand, which is a cat that is capable of sawing your balls off with it's claws, I'm sure there'd be a few more statistics.

You can list all the 'stupid laws,' you want, like 'You can't tickle a woman with a feather' in Connecticut--but this is a real law. As in, enforced. Not a "blue law" that's left over from Puritan 1850.
Only in Virginia... If Pitbulls were such a menace as you make them out to be, then they'd be banned everywhere, but they aren't. Seriosuly, you make them sound like godzilla. Half the time people get attacked it's becuase they're stupid, and try to mess with the dog. You can mess wit ha cat all you want, and if it tried to attack you, you could easily stop it.

You don't have to bring up any stories, because they simply don't "counter mine." Our opinions are formed with personal experiences and from the information we get from various sources. So what, if there are nice humans, and homicidal humans? There are cases of Humans murdering each other for little more than instinct--people raised in good homes, not abused, by a seemingly happy and healthy home.
I know very well I don't have to, as I said in my last post, bringing up personal experiences is useless.

The same is true for dogs. Raised in a healthy, happy home and weren't abused--were well fed, and then the dog goes crazy, attacks a person. Just like is possible in Humans. But, as you pointed out, if that happened to a cat, "It's just a small animal."
Welp... you're right, lets ban dogs then, and while we're at it, we'll ban ourselves as well. I'm sure that you cleverly left out that something like this is rare in 95% of all breeds of dogs. I also doubt that the information given to you is 100% accurate, along with most of the other propaganda around the world. People can't watch every single moment of an animals life, so how can you be sure that the pets tested didn't have any bad experiences?


And stereotypes come from entire communities slated towards one end of a controversial topic, usually from a single or several scapegoat incidents which cause people to irrationally dislike or disapprove one side of a conflict or situation.
Are you trying to disprove what I said a stereotype is? You have a nice little explanation here, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think you can say I'm wrong either. It looks like this says what I said, in a more complicated fashion.

Dogs attack people more than cats do.

http://saysuncle.com/archives/002396.html

28 fatal dog attacks in two years. How many from cats? I don't believe Any.


http://www.factmonster.com/spot/sharks1.html

"In 1987, New York City reported the following number of people bitten by dogs: 8,064; other people, 1,587; cats, 802; rats, 291; squirrels, 95, raccoons, 11; ferrets, 7; skunk, 3."

I seriously doubt the nature of dogs has changed since 1987, but I'm sure if you wanted, you could find more updated statistics.
I've already told you my reasons on why I don't take into consideration most of these statistics. I also think if most people weren't dumbasses we wouldn't need to worry nearly as much about this sort of thing.

"Statistics show every two minutes another statistic is created."
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Sorry Majin, I didn't see yourt post until after I posted it -_-.
 
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Dogs.. Alerik to cats so....... ^_^ I have 2 dog's and sometimes I see BEWARE OF DOG... Let's tresspass!!!!
 
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Yes, the rest is optional! Afterall, you CAN live with a dirty, stinking, covered-in-it's-own-feces dog, who barks constantly, chews things up and breaks everything. You don't have to do the rest.

Well, that's that, then.

Cats= :yes:
 
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Well, I own neither, but I like cats :).

Funny story too, for about 3 weeks, this white and rust coloured cat has been chilling on my porch, sometimes it'll be there for hours on end. It sits right under the step where the front door is. It doesn't run in the house when someone opens the door, it doesn't hiss or attack anyone, it doesn't even run away when someone goes in or out of the house, so we just leave it be, it's not hurting anyone.
 
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Oh noes! looks like the dogs are winning! Take that for statistics. :p
 
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right well... ive never seen a "dirty, stinking, covered-in-it's-own-feces dog, who barks constantly, chews things up and breaks everything."

so as long as were on stereotypes...
"dirty" well.. if you let your pet roam around of course it can get dirty... its called neglect...so putting that all on dogs is pretty ignorant. on the topic of roaming around, cats hunt and bring you back dead things... not too nice... and if they are de-clawed they cannot be let out at all. so you have to worry about keeping it inside at all times.
a dog on the other hand is a GREAT way to meet new people. take your dog for a walk and people come over to pet him. strike up a conversation, got your date for next week. try to walk a cat and people would give you a funny look

"stinking"
yes well.. as said before.. if you dont take proper care of your pet it is going to stink... so putting that on dogs is again, ignorant. fur gets wet it stinks, that goes for both. cant really think of anything else... dogs do not crap on themselves which goes to the next point...

"covered-in-it's-own-feces"
dogs crap in the yard, only in the house if it is brought up incorrectly. cats use the litterbox... which you need to keep a constant supply of and if you run out... yea it stinks pretty badly AND its in the house... you also need to clean it all the time so whichever pet you get, youll be handling feces... cats using the toilet, well thats training also

"barks constantly"
um.. dogs bark when they see something unfamiliar, or they feel they need to get your attention... its not constantly and once you go and see what it is they stop.

"chews things up and breaks everything."
both cats and dogs destroy things if raised incorrectly.. so going back to what was said before, to put it all on dogs is ignorant.

for some of my own personal experiance.. well ive never been attacked by a dog. i have however been attacked by cats two times. i did nothing to them, they just jumped at me and clawed me up. the 1st time was when i was an infant, in a stroller and a cat jumped on and cut up my face. left a slight scar on my forehead. the second time, my sisters cat jumped onto my face while i was sleeping and clawed at my eyelids. both incidents were unprovoked, so cats are pretty aggressive. just too small to do any damage...

dogs gets the vote =p

and i fail to see the "dirty barking feces covered dog" here
 
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Oh noes! looks like the dogs are winning! Take that for statistics. :p
I let you off the hook for making that massive argument since you posted it pretty close to when I posted my warning.

I will not let you off the hook for a post like that. You've posted your opinion, and it has been made known - leave it there. You can try to disguise your post however you want, but I know what it looks like when people try to egg each other on. Cease.
 
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well from what ive seen so far this thread is getting sorta out of hand so plz no flameing at all keep it nice and clean lol
 
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o_O is that more then one cat, all i see is a head then a massive amount of fur.

NVM i see there feeding.
 
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Well, pain! You've certainly managed to drive our opinion of what is "the least sensical" even further!

Let's see if we can decipher this little page of rambling, unjustified and unformatted text, shall we?

""dirty" well.. if you let your pet roam around of course it can get dirty... its called neglect...so putting that all on dogs is pretty ignorant."

Well, considering cats keep themselves clean and you don't have to bathe them, I guess putting it all on dogs DOES make sense, and isn't ignorant in the least. Zing!

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"yes well.. as said before.. if you dont take proper care of your pet it is going to stink... so putting that on dogs is again, ignorant. fur gets wet it stinks, that goes for both. cant really think of anything else... dogs do not crap on themselves which goes to the next point..."

I guess, once again you're re-stating your own ignorant, unimformed point. Cats clean _themselves._ So, putting it all on dogs, is, once again, not ignorant. Zing!

""covered-in-it's-own-feces"
dogs crap in the yard, only in the house if it is brought up incorrectly. cats use the litterbox... which you need to keep a constant supply of and if you run out... yea it stinks pretty badly AND its in the house... you also need to clean it all the time so whichever pet you get, youll be handling feces... cats using the toilet, well thats training also"

That's part of pet care. Cleaning up the cat box. And dogs, regardless of their 'bringing up,' have accidents. Especially when they're puppies. They go to the bathroom _everywhere._ And in their old age, even more accidents. Zing!


And it's hard to see dogs barking, when you send a picture of a still image, isn't it? Your dog has a dumbfounded look on it's face. Well, you know what they say..
 
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Well, pain! You've certainly managed to drive our opinion of what is "the least sensical" even further!

Let's see if we can decipher this little page of rambling, unjustified and unformatted text, shall we?

""dirty" well.. if you let your pet roam around of course it can get dirty... its called neglect...so putting that all on dogs is pretty ignorant."

Well, considering cats keep themselves clean and you don't have to bathe them, I guess putting it all on dugs DOES make sense, and isn't ignorant in the least. Zing!

Next!

"yes well.. as said before.. if you dont take proper care of your pet it is going to stink... so putting that on dogs is again, ignorant. fur gets wet it stinks, that goes for both. cant really think of anything else... dogs do not crap on themselves which goes to the next point..."

I guess, once again you're re-stating your own ignorant, unimformed point. Cats clean _themselves._ So, putting it all on dogs, is, once again, not ignorant. Zing!

""covered-in-it's-own-feces"
dogs crap in the yard, only in the house if it is brought up incorrectly. cats use the litterbox... which you need to keep a constant supply of and if you run out... yea it stinks pretty badly AND its in the house... you also need to clean it all the time so whichever pet you get, youll be handling feces... cats using the toilet, well thats training also"

That's part of pet care. Cleaning up the cat box. And dogs, regardless of their 'bringing up,' have accidents. Especially when they're puppies. They go to the bathroom _everywhere._ And in their old age, even more accidents. Zing!


And it's hard to see dogs barking, when you send a picture of a still image, isn't it? Your dog has a dumbfounded look on it's face. Well, you know what they say..
lol once more i agree with you 110%
 
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2 great danes, one died at 10, one is still alive and kicking at 18.

Love dogs :).

Sure, any cat and any dog can become mean and violent. But dogs are more likely to do so, by nature. Without any abuse whatsoever.
Not true. The 2 dogs we've had were rescued from abusive owners and were (and still is for the remaining one) the most lovable dogs you'd ever see. The 3 cats we've had are all *****es, one pissed all over my bed in the morning, and the women of my house give them loads of attention and love. One scratches you to death when you're near it, and one is a freeloader who eats and some how manages to get out even if the doors are closed.
 
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sure cats lick themselves... but they also have hairballs, and the normal bodily expulsions... even vomit.. no animal can stay clean all the time... a cat licking itself might not be too sanitary after whats been in its mouth.. I guess putting it all on dogs IS ignorant.

"Next!"

if a dog doesnt get dirty it wont stink, goes back to petcare. cats and dogs are both animals with normal bodily functions.. to say one doesnt smell as bad as the other some of the time is an "uninformed point" so putting it on dogs is, once again, ignorant.


yes.. exactly... petcare...
going back to what Phat said, it goes with responsibility. teaching the dog where to go, much like a human infant. it doesnt take that long and is less expensive than kitty litter.

yep well you got me there... i didnt take a picture of my dog barking... what a shame... i know you were so dissapointed... would you take a picture of your cat coughing up a hairball? :rolleyes:

and cudos on that insult at the end there. hope it helps your self esteem. but really... good job. im still in awe about how clever that was... i mean it must have taken an unbelievable amount of brainpower to come up with that... i mean... just wow!

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Cats clean themselves very well. It's very, very rare to have to actually bathe a cat. Next!

"if a dog doesnt get dirty it wont stink, goes back to petcare. cats and dogs are both animals with normal bodily functions.. to say one doesnt smell as bad as the other some of the time is an "uninformed point" so putting it on dogs is, once again, ignorant."

Dogs stink anyway, because they've got terrible breath. They get dirty natural, you _have_ to bathe them because they're unable to clean themselves. Dogs smell worse than cats, because they can't clean themselves. So, putting it to dogs is not only NOT ignorant, it's logical. ZING!

"yes.. exactly... petcare...
going back to what Phat said, it goes with responsibility. teaching the dog where to go, much like a human infant. it doesnt take that long and is less expensive than kitty litter."

Teaching a dog where to go to the bathroom, and punishing them for accidents, does take longer than changing kitty litter--especially if you use disposable boxes. As for expense? The cost of the cleaning materials used to clean the dog are more expensive then the catbox's costs. Zing!

"yep well you got me there... i didnt take a picture of my dog barking... what a shame... i know you were so dissapointed... would you take a picture of your cat coughing up a hairball? :rolleyes:"

My cats, and I've had many, have never had hairballs. Ever. But, I'm sure your dog has barked.

"and cudos on that insult at the end there. hope it helps your self esteem. but really... good job. im still in awe about how clever that was... i mean it must have taken an unbelievable amount of brainpower to come up with that... i mean... just wow!"

I hope copying my Zing gave you some self-esteem. I'm still in such tremendous awe at your emulation abilities. Really. You should definitely be respected for that. Wow. Zing.
 
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Dogs smell worse than cats, because they can't clean themselves.
Yea, it's definitely worth being able to pet an animal with dried spit all over it.
 
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Spit of animals isn't as gross as it is for a human. Animals' mouths are infinitely cleaner than a humans'.

And, millions of people think it is worth it. What's your point? Oh. Right.
 
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Spit of animals isn't as gross as it is for a human. Animals' mouths are infinitely cleaner than a humans'.

And, millions of people think it is worth it. What's your point? Oh. Right.
Yes there mouths are cleaner then humans thats true
 
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SailorAlea said:
Spit of animals isn't as gross as it is for a human. Animals' mouths are infinitely cleaner than a humans'.

And, millions of people think it is worth it. What's your point? Oh. Right.
Meh, no use argueing with a "OMG CATS RULE TEH WORLD" lover.
 

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