Can you Ascend?

[Lid]

If you could ascend it would contradict both evolution AND creationism.

 

[Synth]

I don't remember each of them ever having any kind of barriers, Darwin simply explaining the basis of evolution.

As far as "ascending" being possible, don't expect Tai Chi to be like DBZ, merely the same thing Bhudist monks consider meditation.

 

[Chakra-X]

Yeah like i said, ascending" in this situation is just a figure of speech of "being better than normally for a period of time". It can be chi wise or adrenline (to me chi is more interesting, but w/e), it's still becomming better than normal, nebody can do that. Butt he real question is can you do it manually, like it doesn't have to be in a certain siutation. It's extremely harde for me when its cold.

As for the chakra thing, Narutos 8 gates thing was just for show (but got rock lee's move kicked ass). There are only 7 chakras. Root, sacrel,navel, heart, throat, third eye, crown., going from lowest to highest.

Come to think of it, I wanted an "aura cleanser" for a stocking stuffer for christmas, and I got it. It smells kinda like perfume and stale room.

I guess it works, wish it smelled a lil better :/

 

[Zeonix]

...............You got ripped off -_-.

Why would ascending contradict evolution? Its not like humans have stopped evolving. Perhaps the next stage for us would be the ability to harness energy using only our minds. No one can know for sure, as any little thing can affect how we evolve.

Offtopic: Creationism was founded on the belief that we are the only intelligent species in the entire universe. I dont believe we came from monkeys, but i sure as hell dont believe Jebus (yes, i spelled it jebus) created the entire universe for a species thats hellbent on destroying everything in its path.

 

[Lid]

It would contradict evolution as it would mean only a select few humans are evolving, while others aren't which would make no sense given current conditions and that people evolve in the same way. Creationism would be contradicted as it would mean evolution IS true to a degree.

 

[Zeonix]

But it isnt a select few. More and more people are beginning to study the cultivation of chi, and are taking it seriously. Perhaps now more than ever, people are looking for something more. Eventually, all humans will have the ability to manipulate ki ;theres no doubt about that. All thats required is time.

If a few people arent able to then, well, survival of the fittest i guess.

 

[frsrblch]

Eventually, all humans will have the ability to manipulate ki ;theres no doubt about that. All thats required is time.

If a few people arent able to then, well, survival of the fittest i guess.

I have doubt about that. Im gonna go out on a limb and pretend i believe ki exists. If ki is manipulated through Tai Chi, then doubt certainly exists, because tai chi isnt going to take over the world and replace all other forms of cardiovascular workout/relaxation. Its great and all, but its no Pilates. If the manipulation of ki is genetic, then for all humans to gain it, it would need to be essencial for our survival or the genes wouldnt become more common, ever, than the normal (no ki crap) genes.

If were evolving towards anything, its weakness. Modern medicine has nearly eliminated 'survival of the fittest' from our society. People with debilitating genetic disorders are saved by modern medicine and are able to procreate. THIS IS A GOOD THING, just not from a genetic standpoint. Where once nature would have removed the weak, the weak are able to flourish. Im only talking about human evolution here though.

Sorry if I have come off condescending earlier, or now, but these threads really crack me up. I was refering to that one guys experience, BTW.

And yes, he did get ripped off.

 

[Zeonix]

Ok, i never said anything about Tai Chi taking over the world. I dont give 2 craps about Tai Chi, but i remain extremely interested in the general manipulation of chi. This also has nothing to do with genetics (more to do with awareness than anything else).

We're also not evolving towards weakness. The longer we live, the stronger we are (even if we prolong death using drugs). We also have genetic mutations that keep us from flat out dying whenever we catch a cold or something stupid like that. The weak still die, and the strong still survive. Thats they way its always worked. The survivors are always the strongest.

I can understand why you wouldnt believe in something like this (although its been proven to be true on many occasions), but dont allow ignorance to stop you from seeing the facts. This isnt fake. This is real. Its a lot harder for Western people to believe these kind of things are possible than Eastern people. We all grow up being taught we are superior, so why should we believe something someone inferior says when we are taught its not possible?

 

[Lid]

You know when you say "don't let ignorance... this isn't fake. This is real" it seems like quite a bit of hypocritical. As you are being ignorant to the people that don't believe that ki, or chi, or that some piece of electricity flows through the body. The belief that everybody is going to become zen master is absurd as well, especially as that would require many things including world peace and perfect harmony... but I won't get into that debate.

 

[Zeonix]

Yeah....everyone would have to become a Zen master o.0. I said it isnt fake, because it has been proven on numerous occasions. Hell, even the Chinese government found it important enough to study. Its existance isnt really something to be disputed. Everything is composed of energy (chi). Its a known fact. Controlling it is as easy as thinking (unless you want to create a nuclear explosion or something, in which you're crazy...or you know a lot more than i do).

 

[Chakra-X]

I think he's just saying humans may evolve so it would easier to manipulate such force isntead of taking half a life time to learn it now.

 

[Lid]

Everything is composed of matter. Everything can be converted to energy via e=mc^2 however saying "everything is chi" just pushes foward a belief which is scientifically false. Also to think controlling the ability to sharpen your mind on to a certain element of your body can be explained through human biology and physiology.

 

[frsrblch]

the Chinese government found it important enough to study. Its existance isnt really something to be disputed. Everything is composed of energy (chi). Its a known fact. Controlling it is as easy as thinking (unless you want to create a nuclear explosion or something, in which you're crazy...or you know a lot more than i do).

...because the Chinese government has such a great reputation about telling the truth. And Im with Lid on this one, everything is matter. Its a known fact. Now excuse me while I go think up some peanut butter sandwiches.

Sry, I had chi and Tai Chi mixed up there. Now Tai Bo, thats where its at...

 

[Ashur]

You don't have to be a neurologist to know facts.

Secound that....

Now then abouth the brain bull**** iv been hearing from most of you....

First people use under 10% of there brain .... basicly 4-10% dont remember right....

Any way I cant belive some people are saying so stupid things...

I mean.... Like..

We already use more than 50% of our brain, so if there is such thing as Chi, it has nothing to do with unlocking the brain's potential.

THATS COMPLETE BULL****! Even if you study 9 grade biology you sould know....

Tho nobody knows exat... But we do know near ....

Samething happened to me, when i was in hot shower: i sat down for about 10min, then i got up and then i felt this hot thing in my head, it hard to stay straight in that time, it just pushes you down. You also see some colours(i saw green and purple). But you dont have to concentrate. It also happened, when i watched tv about 3h(Lotr).

I believe in this chi/ki/chakra/EM stuff.

I just started concentrating....ow, wow! Blonde hair and green eyes with sharingan

Thats just crayzy ... Its like you do drugs and say... WEEEEEE i can fly....

...Oh great... i now know what has been driving my rage... . Seriously though all the rage i have (unimaginable amounts) could be transferred right? Rage into energy/chi/ki? If i were to that then ....................... something cool could happen, i think.......... cool.

OH yeah Chakra change the links i cant get to them

Rage ... youl never get you full potensial that way...

This **** just keeps going doesnt it... :anoyed:

The 10% theory is false. When was the last time you heard a doctor say, "Oh, you'll be fine, the bullet pierced the 90% of your brain you don't use!" And trauma to even a tiny part of the brain can cause severe damage. We use all of our brain, just not all at the same time, but when do you ever use all your muscle groups at the same time? You don't. The brain works the same way.

Well FIRST!!! we dont have a part from our brain the size of a nut witch controlls every thing... There for ......

And i have seen people that lost half of there brain... And they lived completly! Normaly... No problems or side efects....

And not at the same time... Well some parts of our brain work automatic.. ya know that... And Difrent parts of the brain responde to difrent thot prosseses....

If we see a elephant... It doesnt come in you brain from 1 thouth... It comes from many... 1 is like its big... 2 is its strong... 3 its soft.... And so on witch is composed into 1 thot.... elephant....

And whats with this people.. That say.. I tryed to poop as hard as i could and i felt my head heard and my ass hurd and warm all over... YA i can controll chi.....:S

FIRST!!!!! You dont need to flex you muscules you can lie... Stand, sit.....

2! if you see all white green purple... Dosent mean you see ki....
3! Its not that you have to feel anything... Alsow.. You dont have to feel only in you head... Its al over your body.. Widoth moving a muscule...

I can continue with this Sh----- .. BUt i wont.. Just to many people not knowing abouth whats it suposed to be...

Trust me... I can find you 1000000000 well maybe nto so many but 1000 reasons.. How it could be pisicly posible.. But then a nother problem... I can solve that... But this prosses goes on....:S

I am not sayin i am perfect.... That i know all... But i know mutch of this... From books... And descovery channel.. And soooooooo on....:S

(I honestly dint belive that optimus prime would know nothing of the brain... It was just shocking...)

 

[Lid]

Secound that....

Now then abouth the brain bull**** iv been hearing from most of you....

First people use under 10% of there brain .... basicly 4-10% dont remember right....

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This a false belief put forth by an urban legend. The correct is "We use 4-10% AT ANY GIVEN TIME." Why would we be accessing the part of our brain that handles linguists when we are typing? We don't access all our brain at the same time. It's not "we only use 10%", which is a belief put forth by misguided people and "psychics" to try and explain their faux-psychic powers.

For more information:
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

P.S. for someone who claims to have studied 9 grade biology and claiming the 10% myth is true... I just want you to know: Teachers are humans too. They are not beacons of genius, they make mistakes too and can be misguided. I think you should've paid attention during 9th grade grammar too.

 

[frsrblch]

This thread isnt even about ascending or chi or anything relevant anymore....

 

[Ashur]

This thread isnt even about ascending or chi or anything relevant anymore....

What do you want somebody to say.. Hey guys yesterday.. i went ssj3 and plew up some freak on a nother planet with my energy ? :anoyed:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

This a false belief put forth by an urban legend. The correct is "We use 4-10% AT ANY GIVEN TIME." Why would we be accessing the part of our brain that handles linguists when we are typing? We don't access all our brain at the same time. It's not "we only use 10%", which is a belief put forth by misguided people and "psychics" to try and explain their faux-psychic powers.

For more information:
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

P.S. for someone who claims to have studied 9 grade biology and claiming the 10% myth is true... I just want you to know: Teachers are humans too. They are not beacons of genius, they make mistakes too and can be misguided. I think you should've paid attention during 9th grade grammar too.

Well after reading this.. I did get some thouths... But how can you prove that there right? And yes we dont use all thogether... There is no use for it...

And abouth 9 grade.... I make mistake... I think it was on the discovery channel... Not in school...

Abouht gramer... Sry abouth this... Rant> WTF! DO YOU MEAN ME TO LEARN ENGLISH GRAMER OF THE 9 GRADE!!!! :anoyed:

1 I AM NOT IN AMERICA! There for... I srudyed english BY MY SELF! All school did is give me good basics.....

2! I was writing fast... And i am not suposed to know every.... Word perfecty....

Now pepole lets skip this brain stuff hmmm okkkkk?????

 

[Deman]

High school teachers are good at not explaining something completely or saying it layman's terms because it is easier for them to do so.

Anywho.

I believe it's possible. Not because facts say either way. But damnit, the world has lost its magic. Goddamn scientists

 

[Eon]

This thread isnt even about ascending or chi or anything relevant anymore....

And neither is your post...

Let me remind all of you to stick to the topic...

 

[Evil_Trunks]

To jump back into this topic, I started my Tai Chi class today here at college. It was awesome. Just from about 50 mins of learning the basic steps and movements I could already feel my body fill with energy. Almost too much to the point I felt a little light-headed. She said it was somewhat normal, that our bodies wouldnt be used to the building energy.

I am greatly looking forward to more classes and learning more about Tai Chi