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[Skiwan]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but out of good taste and respect, if you don't have anything positive to say, keep it to yourself.

because my opinion isnt that of the "status quo" I shudnt voice it? my words are just as important as anyone elses in this thread, condeming them is just as disrespectful as not acknowlaging a religious figure heads illness. I dont mind people not agreeing with me, but when im being told to silence myself because my view isnt that of which people will tolerate :s, even though i give it in a just and reasonable manor i feel insulted. The bottom line being, that this event, though other people may be up in arms about it, it makes no difference to my life in the slightest, hence why i said, who cares? (who cares = speaking on my own behalf before some1 jumps in about all the religious/*cough*so-called-empathetic people in the world).

Oh wait, i forgot to say what everyone wants to hear, respect to the pope he died and i love what he did even though it didnt make a difference to my life at all.

 

[Jesus]

so if you dont care, why did you make the post? i think thats the point here... and i think ull find that the pope, and his predecessors, had much more of an influence on your life than you would like to believe, seeing as most modern laws are derived from the 10 commandments, which are interperated in the bible by.... ding ding, thats right, the pope himself. this isnt the only thing they influence, there are a lot of social "unwritten rules" which are in place because of the popes descisions.

as i said, whether your a religious person or not, the pope, to all extents and purposes, is one of the most important people on earth. the pope holds sway over a lot of things that either directly, or indirectly affect both your free will, and your lack of free will... deal with it.

normally i would agree with you that expression of opinion is a right, but at the same time, you have a lot to learn about when its apropriate to voice that opinion, and when its better to keep it to yourself.

 

[Skiwan]

I wanted to give my opinion, which as I'm led to believe is my birth right as a human being, im expressing how people have different point of views, and i wudda thought that was obvious. People have differences of opinion, we arent all the same, i just wish people were more tolerant. Then again, diversity is our biggest fear.

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btw, i know the influence's he's had on everyones lives, and to be honnest i really wish he hadnt influenced anyone, in my perfect world he wudnt have been allowed to have any authority over our social situations, or what i can do or say, or you for that matter. But i was born into this world and nomatter how much i hate it and how useless i feel, i have to deal with it, and this in this world him dying holds no relevance to the position i find myself today. In my eye's he's done more harm to this world than we all consider, but if people heard my views on here, i'd expect to be the victim of plenty of abuse and arguements. You want to know why i care about topics like this? just listen to my kinda music, bad religion, dead kennedy's, agnostic front. Its all explained there. It'd take me forever to write out my views.

it was just on the news, he died a few minutes ago...not that i really know him or something, he hasnt done anything for me, but he was an "important" person for many people

exactly what i was trying to say, in a much shortened version... well... i tried to say it in two words.

 

[Sicron]

it was just on the news, he died a few minutes ago...not that i really know him or something, he hasnt done anything for me, but he was an "important" person for many people

 

[Mr. Phonso]

ya i just heard on the news also.. they are talking about all the stuff he did in the past right now.. this is really sad

 

[Majin_You]

Davidskiwan, I actually respect and acknowledge that your opinion differs than the majority of those posted. It would be interesting and engaging to hear and discuss all of your views, but we've found, time in and time out, that this is just not the place for it.

What it comes down to is this: because of the way deep discussion about religious belief(s) has always ended up, we don't want to risk having trouble start up. Hence, I am trying to keep this thread as focused as possible around the passing of the Pope. Tragic for many, yes. Neither here nor there for others, I'm sure of that as well. However, I do not want this thread to turn into a discussion of what he and the Catholic church have done over the last few decades. If this has given you the impression that your opinion doesn't belong here, then I, for one, apologize. That was not my, or the rest of the staff's, intent. I am merely trying to avoid what is undoubtedly going to happen here soon enough, if you catch my drift.

Once again, my apologies if our attempts to curb discussion here have made you believe your opinion is not wanted. We were merely trying to look out for the best interests and respect for as many people reading this thread as possible. That is always prone to error.

 

[Skiwan]

i understand what you're saying, i didnt want to have to drag out my opinion for so long, but i felt like i was forced to justify my beliefs. Im sorry if i was provocative in any way.

 

[DragonDude]

If everything the Catholic faith says is true--and he was branded a heretic--he sat in purgatory for FIVE HUNDRED YEARS until in 1992, I believe, when the Pope absolved him.

Believing that takes the kind of faith that being a Catholic is about. And I said in my post I'm not one. =/

My friend has a picture of him when he was young (I don't know how old he was, exactly, but young enough to like a different person), and it looks weird to see him like that.

 

[L]

Ok erm... I'm Canadian o/ , what did he do here?.. I really dont know =\ , his death really had no impact in my life in any way, other then the 10 mins wasted posting about him =\ , so, Even though I could care less he died or lived, R.I.P Pope.. And enjoy you're afterlife for an eternity..becuase you seated right around god somewhere.. -_-;
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Btw, this isnt exactly "breaking" news =\

 

[Scruff]

isn't exactly "breaking" news

Hang on, round about 1 billion people across the world listen to every word he says, like it was straight from God's mouth, and when he dies it isn't breaking news? Then what the hell does qualify as breaking news?

That goes for the 'who cares' guy as well. 1 billion people, that's who. Just because the Pope didn't personally come to your house and give you a ****ing blowjob doesn't mean he doesn't deserve some respect, and just because that's your opinion doesn't mean you shouldn't learn some mother-****ing tact.

*****.

As for the Pope, well, I'm not even slightly religious, I guess, but I can understand that he was probably the first Pope to realise how much power he had, and used that power to do some good in the world that didn't just involve Catholics. I can respect him for that.

 

[Skiwan]

Sure i can respect him for what he's done, but i dont - i just dont agree with it. I know of tact, but i hate political correctness, the bull**** wall that we put up around us because people are so dependant on the mothering system does nothing for me but alter the real meaning of what we're trying to say. So i really dont care, other people do, so what? does me believing in something different insult them in anyway? no its just a difference of opinion, i shudnt have to be quiet because society holds a xenophobic point of view.

Hang on, round about 1 billion people across the world listen to every word he says, like it was straight from God's mouth, and when he dies it isn't breaking news? Then what the hell does qualify as breaking news?

This news just doesnt apply to me, you cant force it upon me that it must make a difference, that i am somehow now changed because of this one person passing away. It makes a difference to them, but in my mind it doesnt count for ****.

RIP Mr.Pope, never liked you, never disliked you, i never knew you. May we all be respected in our passing, equally and individually.

 

[Majin_You]

I thought I was clear about this already.

This is NOT the place to be debating what the Pope did or did not do, nor how people should or should not respond to his death.

Today, I have slumped to a new level of disappointment in that even this thread has had to degrade to the same old debate over religion with a few new twists. Can we not even discuss the death of a world leader without having to squabble over whom it affects and over who cares? One opinion clearly cannot be stated without catching heat from another.

I don't want to see this thread continue any further if this is what I can expect to see.

Until you are all ready to discuss these things without getting enraged at each other and lashing out when your opinions are challenged, then be prepared to not discuss this at all. Are we clear?

I will leave this thread open to people who are willing to move on in it without dwelling on the previous posts.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Someone cures a disease that killed millions in the past. When they die, do they only deserve respect from those that they saved? Do they not deserve your respect because they "did nothing for me."

Don't respect the Pope for what he didn't do for you, but what he did for others. Where I come from, someone doesn't have to do something for me to earn my respect.

 

[Tassadar]

Though I am an Athiest myself, it is well known that Pope John Paul the second was a peace-loving man, and helped thousands upon thousands through harsh times. He wanted nothing but peace, and happyness for all people, and he bridged a once huge gap between the Christian religion and other religions. It is a sad day for anyone wanting peace, happyness and freedom in the world, for he was a huge factor in promoting it.

 

[owa]

http://popefissionmailed.ytmnd.com/

Pope...? Pope...? POPE!?

 

[frsrblch]

http://popefissionmailed.ytmnd.com/

Pope...? Pope...? POPE!?

Okay, that was pretty funny, Christian or not.

1.1 billion ppl /19.6% roughly equals 1.9 billion ppl /33% so its 2 sources to one Magus!

 

[Chakra-X]

How do they pick a new pope now that he died?

 

[Tassadar]

How do they pick a new pope now that he died?

The head Cardinals get together between 14-20 days after the Pope has died and vote on a new one, the person that gets a 2/3 majority wins. No big campaign is held, they just vote on who they think is the best for the job.

 

[Graive]

R.I.P i understand everyones different opinions and i understand the people angry at the other peoples opinions but still....
Keep the respect guys...all im sayin