Best guitar solo ever.

[DaRkOwNs]

Just stop, It all depends on what people like, you like this, they like that. Get over it and stop trying to make them think like you. They think for themselves. They like what they like your not going to change that. Arguing about it won't change anything either. This thread was going great until you showed up and started trying to change the way people view music. If someone likes a fast solo then they like a fast solo, if someone likes a slow long solo then they like a slow song solo. Some people like the "sound" of the solo while you apparently like the notes of one. (from what i read) Audio Slave Highway i beleive is the name i'm too lazy to go find out. The solo is only one string. But he uses so many foot pedals, each sound is different. Some people love that. Others can't stand it. It's thier opinion

i am not trying to get people to think that its the best in the world im merely stating what it takes to create a good solo i like the notes of a solo because basically it is the solo im just saying that most solos are made from pentatonic scales which for me make it so its not as good as it could of been and plz dont try to stop me from staying on topic

 

[Silent_Bob]

I'm surprised that I'm the only person to have mentioned The Living End, Chris Cheney is possibly the best Aussie guitarist out there, after Angus Young. He uses so much variety and puts so much ingenuity into his work. And yes, even if you just want to see some shredding, he's capable of that( E-Boogie on their new dvd). Live, he is one of the better guitarists I've seen around lately, I'd even stack him against many of the older ones, when talent was a pre-requisite for a band, unlike today where you get people like Phillip Glass...(go minimalist music! :|).

End Communication.

 

[nZ]

hah no you havent in all the books and on the internet everybody does all they can to make it easier and besides speed doesnt make a good solo tone quality and style does i havent even looked at that malmsteens solo yet and i know its just gonna be a solo where hes just shredding the hell out of his guitar not really caring if it sounds good just tries to make it impressively fast and not to mention randy rhoads solos were good because he didnt constantly use a series of pentatonic scales he combined the minor pentatonics with the major scales most just use pentatonic

DO you not listen ? look at his tabs he hardly shreds , he is known for his appeggios, he goes up and down the all the frets doing each major and minor arppeggio scale in one go in a matter of 24.7seconds, he hardly uses pentonic scales, he can also switch from major to minor any time he wants, his solos have a tune considering how fast he actually plays, his bloody riff's have absolutely no chords or power chords they are all based on scales.
geez and the list goes on....

So all in all you have COMPLETELY misjudged malmsteen, he is different to every other solo artist it is why i like him so much, every single solo he plays has a tune to it which goes with the song, which is WHY he was RATED THE BEST SOLO ARTIST a while back.

If you want proof ---> arpeggios from hell by yngwie malmsteen ---> listen to the bloody song before you make any comments .

 

[Ravendust]

speed doesnt make a good solo

I'm not into guitars in any way, but that's your oppinion, frankly I think the faster the solo the better, like Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

DO you not listen ? look at his tabs he hardly shreds , he is known for his appeggios, he goes up and down the all the frets doing each major and minor arppeggio scale in one go in a matter of 24.7seconds, he hardly uses pentonic scales, he can also switch from major to minor any time he wants, his solos have a tune considering how fast he actually plays, his bloody riff's have absolutely no chords or power chords they are all based on scales.
geez and the list goes on....

So all in all you have COMPLETELY misjudged malmsteen, he is different to every other solo artist it is why i like him so much, every single solo he plays has a tune to it which goes with the song, which is WHY he was RATED THE BEST SOLO ARTIST a while back.

If you want proof ---> arpeggios from hell by yngwie malmsteen ---> listen to the bloody song before you make any comments .

oh now i know what your talking about yeah the only reason randy rhoads wasnt said to be the best guitarist/soloist is because HE DIED IN A AIRPLANE ACCIDENT and this was back in the late seventies give him another thirty years experience see what he does then but anyway im not trying to get you to believe that hes the best you have your own opinions

 

[nZ]

i never said malmsteen was the best ,he's in competition with loads of others but he's my fave. and i never said rhandy rhoads wz bad thts why i said he's similar to van halen, malmsteen wz rated the best solo artist because his solos had a tune everytime even at the speed he played them at. But he gave up guitaring god knows how long ago 12yrs meyb??

 

[owa]

DO you not listen ? look at his tabs he hardly shreds , he is known for his appeggios, he goes up and down the all the frets doing each major and minor arppeggio scale in one go in a matter of 24.7seconds, he hardly uses pentonic scales, he can also switch from major to minor any time he wants, his solos have a tune considering how fast he actually plays, his bloody riff's have absolutely no chords or power chords they are all based on scales.
geez and the list goes on....

So all in all you have COMPLETELY misjudged malmsteen, he is different to every other solo artist it is why i like him so much, every single solo he plays has a tune to it which goes with the song, which is WHY he was RATED THE BEST SOLO ARTIST a while back.

If you want proof ---> arpeggios from hell by yngwie malmsteen ---> listen to the bloody song before you make any comments .

You do releize that most guitarists base their songs and solos off of a scale. That is why you learn the scales, most guitar players take them and change them a bit to fit the style of a song, but you can look at most of the big guitar players, and see that they use scales. The fact your guy uses arpeggios doesn't make him that different.

Yes, your guitar player is awesome. We already heard you say that, and I agree, he is good, but you can't argue this anymore. People prefer different styles, obviously this guy doesn't cut it for some people. So just stop argueing.

 

[nZ]

You do releize that most guitarists base their songs and solos off of a scale. That is why you learn the scales, most guitar players take them and change them a bit to fit the style of a song, but you can look at most of the big guitar players, and see that they use scales. The fact your guy uses arpeggios doesn't make him that different.

Yes, your guitar player is awesome. We already heard you say that, and I agree, he is good, but you can't argue this anymore. People prefer different styles, obviously this guy doesn't cut it for some people. So just stop argueing.

Im not arguing about it im just showing how dark misjudged his style wen he hasnt even heard of him which kinda pee's me off.
Ye thats true all songs are based on a variety of scales, but whats different is that he only uses scales, no chords like most guitarists do.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

never said malmsteen was the best ,he's in competition with loads of others but he's my fave. and i never said rhandy rhoads wz bad thts why i said he's similar to van halen, malmsteen wz rated the best solo artist because his solos had a tune everytime even at the speed he played them at. But he gave up guitaring god knows how long ago 12yrs meyb??

i was under the impression that you were saying randy rhoads sucks sorry...hes my idol so yeah i got ticked at that

 

[Jesus]

whats all this talk about malmsteen? he isnt THAT great, he plays REALLY fast yeah ill give him that, but music is just as much about the notes you DONT play as well. anyone who thinks playing fast is playing good is a fool (and that is a quote from Vai)

also, if you look into a lot of malmsteens stuff, you will see he is really jsut a hack, a LOT of "his" compositions are made up of bits and pieces of classical works which i have played in my orchestra. (thats right i play violin too)

so all in all, in this day and age, satch still pushes all the boundaries, along with vai, those two are now the past in the music industry, but they will NEVER be forgotten, whereass people like malmsteen, will.

 

[Silent_Bob]

John Petrucci anyone? He is incredible, just listen to Dream theaters version of Sanitarium(it really does kick the ass of metallica's. Even though Sanitarium is my favourite song of theirs I still know that Petrucci pwns that song). Also listen to A Change Of Seasons(if you have patience, it goes for 23 minutes).

As for Malmsteen, he has talent, there's no denying that. But he does take bits of other peoples songs and uses them in his "own". When he does a cover of someone song it turns out really good, but I find his pieces boring in that it's just the same old "shredding"(not in the typical sense) style playing over and over.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

i personally like angus young's style of playing it might only be pentatonic but he has created some of the best solos for ac/dc like the you shook me all night long simple but a very good solo and not fast at all

 

[nZ]

whats all this talk about malmsteen? he isnt THAT great, he plays REALLY fast yeah ill give him that, but music is just as much about the notes you DONT play as well. anyone who thinks playing fast is playing good is a fool (and that is a quote from Vai)

also, if you look into a lot of malmsteens stuff, you will see he is really jsut a hack, a LOT of "his" compositions are made up of bits and pieces of classical works which i have played in my orchestra. (thats right i play violin too)

so all in all, in this day and age, satch still pushes all the boundaries, along with vai, those two are now the past in the music industry, but they will NEVER be forgotten, whereass people like malmsteen, will.

Malmsteen has actually composed most of his songs for games n other stuff etc(he produced the original zelda theme ) , he didn't release many songs into the chart this is why he isnt as famous as many other guitarists around, and another fact is that he gave up long before some others did. but when he released vengeance that went number 1.
He has re-done many classical songs such has beethovens 5th which sounds brilliant, i wont deny that he has taken bits and pieces off classical works but the way he makes them work is his true talent, that is wht i like about him.
But who said malmsteen couldnt play other styles, have you heard him live playing voodoo child with joe satriani and vai? he absolutely killed their style.

 

[Jesus]

mate, ill put it very simply, if you want to hear classical pieces re-done, listen to troy stetina's rendition of beethoven's 21'st piano sonata "appasionata"

or if you want speed, look no further than paul gilbert or racer X.

nuff said

 

[nZ]

ill put it even simpler for you , malmsteen is wht i listen to atm u cant change my opinion , i cont care wht u think is good or fast and wht isnt , i dont care about speed i listen to all kind of songs and i am open minded about every guitarist because ive heard atleast one piece by each of them so i never put another guitarist down , this is because i know it took alot of hard work for each guitarist to get where they are. I know this because i am a guitarist myself and theres so much to learn even if your a professional so theres no reason going round sayin he's crap or he's **** .
all in all every guitarist have their own place and theres no need to criticise any of them , end of story.

 

[Maveryck]

For speed and technique, I'd have to say Fatal Tragedy (by Dream Theater, John Petrucci on guitar). Petrucci is easily as fast as Malmsteen, only his playing actually sounds good.

But that fast alternate-picking, sweeping, tapping stuff isn't everything. Well-written solos like Santeria (Sublime, Brad Nowell on guitar), and Comfortably Numb )Pink Floyd, Dave Gilmour on guitar) are usually a better listen than a total shredfest.

Besides, being a totally solid rhythm player like Mike Einziger or Chris Cheney (both of whom have their lead licks down as well) is way more impressive to me than being a superhuman speed freak.

 

[Silent_Bob]

Woot, finally a mention of Chris Cheney! About bloody time.

 

[DaRkOwNs]

its really hard to play on a written solo if your just making a solo on the spot you can play it at phenomal speeds so dont judge how fast they can go by what they can play freeform