are you still waiting?

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SaiyanPrideXIX said:
Well, I wouldnt' say I'm waiting for it, or even looking forward to it. Don't get me wrong, it looks like it's going to be a pretty damn good game and all. I just have a few basic qualms:

1.) I generally dislike Valve, and always have. They struck me early on as a very juvenile company that has been letting hard working mod makers like the ESF devs carry their product and generate them ****loads of effortless income, and that bothers me because it's disrespectful and in a stupid off-center way we're all pawns.

2.) I really didn't like the first Half-Life at all. It was good, and I thought it was good, but then there was all this talk of it being revolutionary, and I don't think it was that at all. It was an even bigger turnoff when people cited some of the REASONS for considering it revolutionary:
  • OMG! Brilliant first person gameplay! YOU ARE GORDON FREEMAN! YOU EXPERIENCE THE STORY FIRST HAND!!
    Translation:
    "Dude, they totally didn't bother to put in any cutscenes and used a PR slogan to make all of us think they did it intentionally!"
  • OMG! Amazing level design!!
    Translation:
    "They took the next logical step in mapping design and made the setting more like a real place. They did this by throwing some fans, some pipes, and some minimal 3d sets of terrain or boxes down. All of these techniques were used in Quake II, of course, but Half-Life clearly does them better."
  • OMG! Brilliant Story!!
    Translation: "There's a dangerous situation and you are some poor low-level schmuck caught in the middle of it! You have to use weapons to survive and get out alive! And this story has been the story for every first person shooter prior to this ever made except for Duke Nukem!!"
However! DESPITE any fault I may have with Valve's ethical misfires, or any annoyance of the UBERHLFAN as an overall entity, I have to say that it was a good game, and I expect much better from the second. I don't think I'm going to be waiting on baited breath, but hell, I'd just be a ****ing liar if I said I wasn't going to play or love it.

However, I stopped getting my hopes up about it long ago. It'll be done when it's done, and I can't leave it at the front of my mind so much. Gabe will just disappoint us. :0(
*laughs*

Haha, every word is true. Its so great. Its as if you read my mind.

doom3.....nuff said...
Not 'nuff' said. As far as I'm concerned (now that I've played Doom 3) from what I've seen of Half-Life 2, HL2 will pound the piss out of Doom 3, with little or no contest.

HL2 will be done whenever its done, and when it is, it will be great.
 
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Just put everything SaiyanPrideXIX said. With Space Marine and room full of pipes and you have Doom3. I say Hl2 looks great and good use of physics engine
 
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mmm you played painkiller? that has the whackyest physics ive ever seen :D
 
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Regarding the gameplay videos:

It CAN'T be more than a 20 hour game, and they have like 40 gameplay videos...makes me wonder how much of the game we HAVEN'T seen.

I have to agree that HL2's visuals don't impress my that much. The facial expressions of the characters, yeah; nothing else really shocks me, though.

I think that HL2 is going to be a fast-paced fragfest with little deviation.

I get really aggravated when people talk about Valve making such great physics. Yeah, physics are cool, but they are only so relevant to a game; after a while, watching barrels roll and guys fall down funny is going to wear off. The reason I get annoyed though is because they use the Karma physics engine--same as Max Payne 2--and they integrated it into the Source engine. Basically, they took a massive shortcut and are getting way too much cred for it.

I'm pretty bothered by the wait. Doom 3 had all this revolutionary tech and all those interface designs and such put into it. Four years doesn't seem that unreasonable. HL2 is an overgrown physics demo with a BORROWED physics engine and some very base bump mapping and they've been working on it for TWICE AS LONG (they said they started working on it when they finished HL1, which was 1998 or so, no?).

I stopped waiting a long, LONG time ago. Like I said, it'll be nice, but it's just too wild to put any faith in at this point.
 

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