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i think androids should not be detected by radar. in the show goku couldnt find them because he could not sense them, after yamcha´s pl was dropping he was able to locate them.
 
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-Androids should never lose Ki untill under 10hp.
-Crushing damage (it's in 1.2) should be amplified because of this.
-Starting Powerlevel; 800,000
-They should start out the second fastest
-They don't transform
-Their PL raises faster due to this.

That's all I can think of for now... :tired:
 
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another thing for them: the generic beam/ball should be stronger for them. after all, they sont have many attacks besides that...
and the "not showed in radar" idea is great, gives them
a good adventage against others.
 
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KelesK said:
-Androids should never lose Ki untill under 10hp.
-Crushing damage (it's in 1.2) should be amplified because of this.
-Starting Powerlevel; 800,000
-They should start out the second fastest
-They don't transform
-Their PL raises faster due to this.

That's all I can think of for now... :tired:
Sounds good..it's a start...other ideas maybe..anyone *how about you Magmus..any new additions to the idea...*

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Only #17 has KI Barrier & only #16 uses Eye Laser. Besides there is speed and life points and starting PL. Anyways I don't think we should add them cause in dbz they can't gain PL so what's the point of using them?

16 allso used a nasy move called hell flash i think its called that where he pulls his 2 hands off and fires a super blast in a fixed place and allso he rockets his hands in a punch like sate clenching his fist and detach it into a rocket punch like state
 
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16 shoted his hands like rockets against cell.
i dont know how you are going to put it in, but here goes: they work like frieza disk, you charge them, shoot them, and unlike frieza disk, they are not instant kills. once they hit someone they deal some damage and return to your android 16 model. what do you think?
 
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Sounds good..it's a start...other ideas maybe..anyone *how about you Magmus..any new additions to the idea...*
I just started the idea for the debate...

but i still stick with my move ideas their more generalised...

perhaps the androids should give more damage in mele... being supper strong and all :laff:
 
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Don't you get it? Androids can't gain PL since they are ROBOTS. Robots can't get stronger from the same reason that they can't get hungry. They can't grow musels (spelled wrong, right?) and therefor can't get stronger.

Oh btw I like the idea of the hand throwing though dont know how it can be done.
 
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*deeply sighs*

You all don't know your dbz history too well.

Android 17 and 18 are twins, they both are humans with just robotic parts. They were built from a human base, but they are still mostly human. They don't power up. They can train and gain power, but thats about it. 18 can throw destructo disks, i remember seeing her throw them in Super Boutoden 3. 17 has his Ki Barrier.

Android 16 Is all Robot, like how the Terminator.

19 is the fat one who is white.

20 is Dr. Gero

Cell would technically be Android 21 not 19.

Dr. Gero/20, 16, Cell, have eye lasers. 19 would probably have it since he was built like 20.

The only good characters would be out of the androids would be.
17 (he has a transformation from GT Yes i know its in GT, but this could be an exception)

his transformation moves could be
Ki Barrier Absorb. Well you can absorb ki attacks but, it leaves you open to melee just like in gt, and the more ki you absorb the more time you are left open.
 
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well as an example from the series 18 threw a disk at Trunks and Goten in that sily suit at the turnament in Buu saga and yes they are mostly human but i still think as good as it sounds haveing super 17 in the game i fear the team will not ad him :(
 
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i think the androids should beable to absorb attacks... That would be the solution in the gain/no gain pl thing. If they start out strong and fast then they need attacks to gain pl then they would be balanced to near perfection. Hell i would play them if they had absorbing ki function. I know 17 and 18 cant but this could be an exception. Those are the two that have the best chance in getting in anyway.

You guys dont seem to know about ki do you? Ki is a moldable energy meaning that they can do pretty much anything to it. Ki barrier, Ddisc, beams, balls exc. Thats why the debate on what attacks are balls and what attacks are beams is so heated because people miss that one detail.
 
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Duh.

You just can't sense there ki.
The most they can do with ki is throw it and manipulate it as they please, but they cannot gather up ki.
 
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well i ment to those that were talking about certain people doing certain moves... sides you have to have ki to use it =P so in a sense they do gather it up. Its just it doesnt leak out of there body which is the reason for the aura.
 
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The only android that really could absorb energy was 19.


don't think we'll be seeing this filler episode buu prequel.

*Edit, Thx to Sailor Alea*


Dr.Gero/20 as well.
 

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ok this is wat they could do... give them 200 max hp seeing there unstopable. well almost. now they do have a transformation. as in gt the black hair dude was brought back to life. and he was formd into super 17 he was bigger and stronger. he could obsorb attacks. but this is 1 attack he can obsorb blasts but. he can only obsorb a certain amount or he over loads. his chip and blows up
and for 16 she can turn into super 16. so its fair. lol but cause u can obsorb attacks you need 4 mill or wateva ki. needed the highest amount ud have to get 2 level :p i duno lmaoooo but i think this game could use

pam
17
16
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goten
just some possible people
 
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no no and hmmmmm hey thats... no!

they said nothing from GT which means along the lines of nada.

They only reason why i suggested 17 and 18 absorb energy meh friend is because they have the best chance of getting in. So why not? Would make them have to gain power like that, thus balancing them. That way they could have infinate ki and some fairly decent attacks.

BOTH should have.

ki blast.
generic beam/ball
heavy generic beam/ball
ki sheild
d disc (alittle smaller and mabye faster than krillins)

i mean no matter what kind of advantages or disadvantages you have, learning how to use them is key. I mean if you give a baby a shotgun, he still wont beable to do much with it. So, i think this little setup with minor tweeks would work fine.
 

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i dont care wat u say they needed a transformation ok. so i suggest you shut ur mouth wat ever gives me ideas comes from wathcn either GT or dragon ball or DBZ wat ever improves this boring game.
 
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well if the game is so boring dont play (i know ill continue:D)

Ubb the team said there will not be chars from the movies or GT in ESF
its a totaly DBZ game


personaly id like to see goten and trunks (Buu saga) in ESF
but the androids are good to :p
 

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um gt is the exact same as dbz and same as db they are all related just in db goku was younge thats how the show startd
then dbz came along with gohan n kids n so on. gt is now were gokus kid has a kid. lmao its all the exact same its all Dragon ball just z and gt are new series n eps. so wat your saying is were stuck with . goku..... gohan... trunks..vegeta..freza.cell..buu..piccolo. there the only chars in the game that are gonna stay it no more new people? if not i think alot of esf players would ditch the game...
 
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Uub, your opinions are noted, now get over yourself and get back on topic. Players haven't been leaving do to lack of GT and I seriously doubt they will be in the future. 1.2 is close to release now and after that we're talking about full transformations and possibly new characters.

This isn't about GT it's about gameplay and the team's decision not to include unbalancing GT stuff. That decision was final, so don't worry about convincing them otherwise.
 

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