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Politics and economics have always baffled me, and while I've gathered both through principal and the quality of the arguments I see that the Liberal side of things is the way to go, or at least, ANYTHING not associated with the religious right, I find it almost impossible to defend myself. My brain is a sieve when economics and politics enter the matter, and Occupy Wall Street is a doozy.
I want to say that I support these people. I THINK I support these people. I know it's happening in other, quote-unquote, "smart nations" in Europe and otherwise. I know Fox News does whatever they can to discredit these people, so THAT gives me a pretty good clue that these guys are threatening some rich-man status quos, but damn it all if I can defend my position to anyone when I say that I support OWS. I mean, what can I say when I'm not even 100% sure what the precise goals and demands are? Even on the supposed official SITE, they seemed to suggest that they'd get 20,000 people in Wall Street...so they could then unify to find a reason to Occupy Wall Street...
It doesn't help a "for" argument, y'know?
So what's the real deal here? Is the 99% a flag of freedom to wave in the faces of the corrupt?
Or are they the angry, unwashed masses, who some would say "got what was coming to them by not living within their means, and demanding a bailout for the student loans and unworkable home-loans THEY saddled themselves with, blaming the rich people who were just smart mother****ers who innovated and were rewarded. I mean, who's GIVING them their jobs? That's right! What if they (millionaires) one day just quit and left them jobless? THEN what would those freeloaders do? So you think the corporations hardly pay any taxes huh? So why did they all move out of California then?"
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Yeah, sorry about that. That's an example of the sorta' stuff I hear. Watch out when you hint that you support something to some people...
But I know, I know, why am I supporting something if I can't justify it? Isn't that so ignorant of you? Yahdee yahdee yah... Look, I want to believe in people; I don't want to believe the rich people are the good guys and that the poor people all deserve it. At the same time I want to believe as many true things as possible and as few UNtrue things as possible. So I ask this desiring no sugar-coating. If you think my desired position is wrong, tell me so and why. If you're right, I'll change my opinion. All the same, I think this thread might prove useful to others similarly baffled by the shadow-dance of economics and politics.
I want to say that I support these people. I THINK I support these people. I know it's happening in other, quote-unquote, "smart nations" in Europe and otherwise. I know Fox News does whatever they can to discredit these people, so THAT gives me a pretty good clue that these guys are threatening some rich-man status quos, but damn it all if I can defend my position to anyone when I say that I support OWS. I mean, what can I say when I'm not even 100% sure what the precise goals and demands are? Even on the supposed official SITE, they seemed to suggest that they'd get 20,000 people in Wall Street...so they could then unify to find a reason to Occupy Wall Street...
It doesn't help a "for" argument, y'know?
So what's the real deal here? Is the 99% a flag of freedom to wave in the faces of the corrupt?
Or are they the angry, unwashed masses, who some would say "got what was coming to them by not living within their means, and demanding a bailout for the student loans and unworkable home-loans THEY saddled themselves with, blaming the rich people who were just smart mother****ers who innovated and were rewarded. I mean, who's GIVING them their jobs? That's right! What if they (millionaires) one day just quit and left them jobless? THEN what would those freeloaders do? So you think the corporations hardly pay any taxes huh? So why did they all move out of California then?"
...
Yeah, sorry about that. That's an example of the sorta' stuff I hear. Watch out when you hint that you support something to some people...
But I know, I know, why am I supporting something if I can't justify it? Isn't that so ignorant of you? Yahdee yahdee yah... Look, I want to believe in people; I don't want to believe the rich people are the good guys and that the poor people all deserve it. At the same time I want to believe as many true things as possible and as few UNtrue things as possible. So I ask this desiring no sugar-coating. If you think my desired position is wrong, tell me so and why. If you're right, I'll change my opinion. All the same, I think this thread might prove useful to others similarly baffled by the shadow-dance of economics and politics.