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as much as i would like the dragonball saga to continue... take a peek http://www.dbafterlife.com/dbaf.shtml theres your proof AF is fake
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vegeta should just go majin and he can use his big explosion thing where he blows himself up against buu
also the auras around ppl when they appear they should appear from the feet upwards and sort of fade in and stuff cause it just looks like plastic around the characters >:| and maybe have when u put ur aura on make it so they change differently like 2 or 3 different aura changes
also the auras around ppl when they appear they should appear from the feet upwards and sort of fade in and stuff cause it just looks like plastic around the characters >:| and maybe have when u put ur aura on make it so they change differently like 2 or 3 different aura changes
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Db AF is not fake it is a comic in japan right now.
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So what are you implying here? I'm just suppose to take this guy's word for it just because i dont have proof it doesnt exist? That's total BS.
It's like me saying...
"You got proof Goku really exists?"
And you saying...
"You got proof he doesnt?"
You gotta use some logic buddy. If you dont, you'll get your ass handed to you quite so many times.
Besides, the link shown by ssj4 son goku proves AF is not real...
i say keep ssj3 outve vegeta, they gave krillin a transformation b/c if he didnt have 1 it would suck being him, he wouldnt have any replayability. Vegeta has enough ssj, majin (red sparks) and ssj2 thats 3 and enough , goku will have three and trunks (i think) and gohan, all saiyjains will possibly have 3 so why vegeta has to be special?
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Ok what SS said about vegata becoming majin first before ssj2 is completely true. In the bu sagga vegeta could not become ssj2 w/o the help of babadi/majin upgrade.
When Goku and Vega stare at each other before they fight, Goku goes to ssj2 and then vegeta does. This is the first time vegeta goes ssj2 in DBZ, and he could not have done it w/o majin, so i think that vegetas power ups should go like this
1) Normal Vegeta, with sajin armour
2) SSJ Vegeta, with sajin armour (100% increase)
3) SSJ Majin Vegeta, w/o sajin armour (this should be a 30% increase from normal SSJ
4) SSJ 2 Majin Vegeta, w/o sajin armour. (200% increase from SSJ Majin Vegeta)
Well that is how i think his tranformations should be
Goku's should be like this
1) Normal Goku
2) SSJ Goku (100% increase)
3) SSJ 2 Goku (200% increase from SSJ)
4) SSJ 3 Goku (300% increase from SSJ 2)
So potentially Vegeta is stronger at SSJ 2 than Goku which i think is perfectly fine, Goku can go ssj3 after all.
When Goku and Vega stare at each other before they fight, Goku goes to ssj2 and then vegeta does. This is the first time vegeta goes ssj2 in DBZ, and he could not have done it w/o majin, so i think that vegetas power ups should go like this
1) Normal Vegeta, with sajin armour
2) SSJ Vegeta, with sajin armour (100% increase)
3) SSJ Majin Vegeta, w/o sajin armour (this should be a 30% increase from normal SSJ
4) SSJ 2 Majin Vegeta, w/o sajin armour. (200% increase from SSJ Majin Vegeta)
Well that is how i think his tranformations should be
Goku's should be like this
1) Normal Goku
2) SSJ Goku (100% increase)
3) SSJ 2 Goku (200% increase from SSJ)
4) SSJ 3 Goku (300% increase from SSJ 2)
So potentially Vegeta is stronger at SSJ 2 than Goku which i think is perfectly fine, Goku can go ssj3 after all.
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I've been reading some of DragonBall AE
Thing has some serious plot-holes
Mainly the fact that Gojita and Goku normal is more powerful than Gohan gone Mystic ssj2
Whats wrong with that? Its freagin Mystic, Mystic is equivilant to ssj4 since its both stronger than ssj3 and can be maintained indefinately. Then you are gonna let him go 2 transformations higher and say he isnt as strong as a normal ssj4? Come on...
Thing has some serious plot-holes
Mainly the fact that Gojita and Goku normal is more powerful than Gohan gone Mystic ssj2
Whats wrong with that? Its freagin Mystic, Mystic is equivilant to ssj4 since its both stronger than ssj3 and can be maintained indefinately. Then you are gonna let him go 2 transformations higher and say he isnt as strong as a normal ssj4? Come on...
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I dont want to start a flame war, but SSJ3 goku is just as stong or stronger than mystic Gohan...
Ok when goku comes back to earth for the 2nd time during the buu saga (now he is not dead) he pars with super bu in SSJ 3 for a bit, the fight is basically even. Now when Gohan was sparring with super Buu he was getting his a$$ pwned. Maybe in the Dragon Ball you are reading Mystic is stronger but this is based off DBZ, and Goku SSJ3 is just as strong or stronger than Mystic.
Ok when goku comes back to earth for the 2nd time during the buu saga (now he is not dead) he pars with super bu in SSJ 3 for a bit, the fight is basically even. Now when Gohan was sparring with super Buu he was getting his a$$ pwned. Maybe in the Dragon Ball you are reading Mystic is stronger but this is based off DBZ, and Goku SSJ3 is just as strong or stronger than Mystic.
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No, you are mistaken
In the anime, Mystic is a greater level than ssj3
Remember, Goku had the ability to go ssj3 for years, Gohan just got Mystic. For all you know, Goku could have trained for 6 years in otherworld as a ssj3.
In the anime Goku admits that he probably could not have defeated Fat Buu. Gohan in many respects did beat Tall Buu. Gohan was actually draining Buu's energy, had he felt like it, he would could have completely destroyed Buu.
When Goku returns from otherworld he does not go head to head with Super Buu, he merely tries to escape the attacks. Buu is in no way even hardly trying to take out Goku ssj3. Also, if you recall, for the first part of the fight, Gohan actually WAS going head to head with Super Buu, in both defense and offense.
Mystic can be sustained indefinately, Goku couldnt even sustain ssj3 for over 30 minutes. Goku was well into the ssj3 powers whereas Gohan was just on the lower brink of mystic having just obtained it.
Mystic > SSJ3 in every way. It is stronger and can be maintained indefinately. Mystic is either = to or slightly < than SSJ4
In the anime, Mystic is a greater level than ssj3
Remember, Goku had the ability to go ssj3 for years, Gohan just got Mystic. For all you know, Goku could have trained for 6 years in otherworld as a ssj3.
In the anime Goku admits that he probably could not have defeated Fat Buu. Gohan in many respects did beat Tall Buu. Gohan was actually draining Buu's energy, had he felt like it, he would could have completely destroyed Buu.
When Goku returns from otherworld he does not go head to head with Super Buu, he merely tries to escape the attacks. Buu is in no way even hardly trying to take out Goku ssj3. Also, if you recall, for the first part of the fight, Gohan actually WAS going head to head with Super Buu, in both defense and offense.
Mystic can be sustained indefinately, Goku couldnt even sustain ssj3 for over 30 minutes. Goku was well into the ssj3 powers whereas Gohan was just on the lower brink of mystic having just obtained it.
Mystic > SSJ3 in every way. It is stronger and can be maintained indefinately. Mystic is either = to or slightly < than SSJ4
Mr gump good with the level of increase i like.
commenting on ure ssj3 vs buu fighting even, he wasn't even close, nothing was hurting buu and goku was basically running thats why he wanted to fuse with gohan cuz he new he couldnt beat buu.
commenting on ure ssj3 vs buu fighting even, he wasn't even close, nothing was hurting buu and goku was basically running thats why he wanted to fuse with gohan cuz he new he couldnt beat buu.
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In any case, ssj4 being stronger than Mystic Gohan gone ssj2 is total milarki
Even if you said that ssj3=Mystic, you would still be givin gohan 2 more transformations upwards, that would put him at ssj5 if Mystic was = ssj3 or at ssj6 if it was barely less
Huge plot hole in any case
Even if you said that ssj3=Mystic, you would still be givin gohan 2 more transformations upwards, that would put him at ssj5 if Mystic was = ssj3 or at ssj6 if it was barely less
Huge plot hole in any case
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Ok im gana bust out my nerd knologe of dbz now ok?
After Goku fights Fat bu and returns to the look out, he explains it is not his battle to win (kinda ironic cuz he is the victor after all). This means he was obviously supressing his power because it was not his battle to win.
2nd off Goku fights buu when he is dead, so he cannot regain power from the living world he must regain power from other world, after he is givin is life again he becomes far more powrful in the living world.
Ok, look at the fight between super buu and SSJ3 Goku, now compair it to the fight between super buu and Mystic Gohan.......No contest who is stronger there.
And yes it was Gokus first time of going ssj3 reason being? the Supreme Ki would have felt his power and would have changed that battle plan to fight Buu.
Sure King Ki tells goku not to transform, but that does not mean Goku has done it before, like i said if he did it, Supreme Ki would have felt it and the whole strategy for fighting Buu would have changed.
Ok ill bring this up again, When Goku turns SSJ3 the entire universe can feal his power. When Gohan goes Mystic, Picolo does not sence it from the planet of the Ki's, so how is Mystic more powerful than SSJ3 goku......
After Goku fights Fat bu and returns to the look out, he explains it is not his battle to win (kinda ironic cuz he is the victor after all). This means he was obviously supressing his power because it was not his battle to win.
2nd off Goku fights buu when he is dead, so he cannot regain power from the living world he must regain power from other world, after he is givin is life again he becomes far more powrful in the living world.
Ok, look at the fight between super buu and SSJ3 Goku, now compair it to the fight between super buu and Mystic Gohan.......No contest who is stronger there.
And yes it was Gokus first time of going ssj3 reason being? the Supreme Ki would have felt his power and would have changed that battle plan to fight Buu.
Sure King Ki tells goku not to transform, but that does not mean Goku has done it before, like i said if he did it, Supreme Ki would have felt it and the whole strategy for fighting Buu would have changed.
Ok ill bring this up again, When Goku turns SSJ3 the entire universe can feal his power. When Gohan goes Mystic, Picolo does not sence it from the planet of the Ki's, so how is Mystic more powerful than SSJ3 goku......
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Goku states that he wasnt trying to kill buu, but he probably couldnt have anyways
Goku is able to regain energy etc and is just the same when he returns back alive. He states that the living world has limitations on energy, not that its because he is dead. In otherworld there are no energy restrictions, which is why he gained ssj3 in 7 years and vegeta didnt even come close. He gains absolutely no power when returning to the living world alive
"Ok, look at the fight between super buu and SSJ3 Goku, now compair it to the fight between super buu and Mystic Gohan.......No contest who is stronger there. "
Super buu dosnt fight Goku, Goku runs around and tries not to get hit. He never even harms buu at all. Goku ran from him for like 30 seconds, Gohan went 1-1 with him and actually landed punches and attacks and did a 1-1 ki attack versus buu for around 10 minutes. Goku in no way surpasses Gohan compared to Buu. Goku just runs from attacks. Gohan managed to take the hits and keep dishing it out for quite a while
It was NOT goku's first time to go ssj3, not even close. He tells everyone he did it before, everyone in otherworld knows about his trick, and he does it easily versus Majin Buu
The whole advantage of going Mystic is that you are able to completely control your energy. Imagine it like this...ssj is a match, ssj2 is a fire, ssj3 is a burning building out of control. Gohan loses no energy when he goes Mystic, thats why you dont see all the energy leaking out of him. duh....
Most your nerd knowledge is incorrect
And again, Goku basically admits that Gohan is stronger
Also, Gotenks ( a fused warrior) gone ssj3 admits that Gohan is far stronger than him. They ADMIT that ssj3 is a weaker level than mystic
Goku is able to regain energy etc and is just the same when he returns back alive. He states that the living world has limitations on energy, not that its because he is dead. In otherworld there are no energy restrictions, which is why he gained ssj3 in 7 years and vegeta didnt even come close. He gains absolutely no power when returning to the living world alive
"Ok, look at the fight between super buu and SSJ3 Goku, now compair it to the fight between super buu and Mystic Gohan.......No contest who is stronger there. "
Super buu dosnt fight Goku, Goku runs around and tries not to get hit. He never even harms buu at all. Goku ran from him for like 30 seconds, Gohan went 1-1 with him and actually landed punches and attacks and did a 1-1 ki attack versus buu for around 10 minutes. Goku in no way surpasses Gohan compared to Buu. Goku just runs from attacks. Gohan managed to take the hits and keep dishing it out for quite a while
It was NOT goku's first time to go ssj3, not even close. He tells everyone he did it before, everyone in otherworld knows about his trick, and he does it easily versus Majin Buu
The whole advantage of going Mystic is that you are able to completely control your energy. Imagine it like this...ssj is a match, ssj2 is a fire, ssj3 is a burning building out of control. Gohan loses no energy when he goes Mystic, thats why you dont see all the energy leaking out of him. duh....
Most your nerd knowledge is incorrect
And again, Goku basically admits that Gohan is stronger
Also, Gotenks ( a fused warrior) gone ssj3 admits that Gohan is far stronger than him. They ADMIT that ssj3 is a weaker level than mystic