Ok ive read the stickys so you can forget telling me that ;D because what im doing is litterly taking a piece of a model player and turning it into an object, I took scuba diver mld and deleted everything but the tank and tried to save it then it said I need bones so I made a join going fromt he top to the bottom of the inside of the tank then i combined them with the vertext and saved then I reopend it and hit compile..... qc? how do you ma qc with a object? that has 2 joins? I tried messing with the one that i got with scuba.mdl but it couldn't get it to work any help here isnt it possible to turn a object into a mdl without a qc and any sequences? P.S I don't know how to script