transing and swooping

[Fire Phoenix]

here is a few suggestions

1. for transing. i think that while transing just like in 1.2 melee a buble forms around you. i think while your transforming a yellow bubble should form around you. and it makes you invulnerable. now so this cant be abused i say make it so they cant untrans until they are finished tranforming. or if they COULD stop make it so they couldnt trans again for a little while. or just not impliment it... that works too

another idea. for double tap swoop instead of double tapping i think it should be like this: ok say your flying around and you wanna swoop, you double tap in the direction you want to swoop (forward, down, left, right, backward, up) and for everytime you wanna chain swoop you only have to press that button once. like say you pressed w twice to swoop forward. and you wanna chain swoop left you then only have to press 'a' once, not twice. and if your going left holding 'a' and you wanna go right. you press 'd' once not twice. and of course you still have to hold the button down. its the same thing now just for chain swooping you dont press the buttons twice. only to start a swoop do you press it twice.

and i also like that idea where you grab someone and swoop them to the ground and they struggle it. and you struggle their struggle. and the more they struggle the slower you go. until one runs out of ki or breaks away or whatever. sorta like throwing. except another dbz addon... ya know? (compliments of Zeonix)

 

[Krazy-Killa]

1. This could work, but it could still be abused. For instance, someone fires a beam at you, instead of just transing then untransing, they just trans right then and there, which means, they won't be hurt by that attack, and any others while transforming. So, this still couldn't work.
2. Doable. It'll make swooping more mobile. But we'll see.

• That's been suggested, try looking for that thread. It's not too old frankly.

 

[Fire Phoenix]

i know its been suggested. thats why i re-iterated it, and named one person who mentioned it. also yeah i figured it could be abused which is why i said that if they "couldnt" de-trans or if they could make it so they couldnt trans for a while. but you have to understand. there is a downfall to anything and everything in this game. your not going to get around somethings. i just find it unfair when you can trans and they dont let you cuz they know your vulnerable. i say if you CAN de-trans, then make it so you can trans again in like... a minute or 2 that why its not abused so much. cuz like right now you cant be meleed when you trans. so thats abused. but you can be beamed... its not fair that you cant be melee'd but you can be beamed. and again its a suggestion.

also for the swooping. i say this just cuz while im swooping in any direction other than upward its hard to press the ctrl button twice. and it would making swooping faster reaction wise.

 

[arucard89]

1. This could work, but it could still be abused. For instance, someone fires a beam at you, instead of just transing then untransing, they just trans right then and there, which means, they won't be hurt by that attack, and any others while transforming. So, this still couldn't work.

so they block ONE ki attack who cares? whoever shot it can just charge back up it shouldnt be a big deal. and i really think this should be implemented

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Characters are supposed to be vulnarable while transforming.

 

[arucard89]

if ur talking about the realism of it, then they should also be vulnrable to melee, but they aren't for a reason. it should be the same for ki attacks as pheonix suggested

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

They made characters invulnarable to melee while transforming after 1.0 because it was just too easy to stop someone from transforming with melee. That doesn't stop them from killing you with beams. They easily could have made users invulnarable to beam attacks too, but they didn't. The game isn't meant to be 'realistic' it's meant to be fun and balanced. Personally I don't think Gohan and Trunks should be freely allowed to transform at 1 million PL when nobody else can, giving them a ridiculous advantage over everyone else for at least the next 10/15 minutes. The same goes for characters who decide to transform in the middle of a fight to buy themselves more health and an unfair advantage.

 

[Zeonix]

1) I myself dont like the idea of eing invulnerable during a trans. In 1.1 (still close to my heart), people would trans right before you were about to melee them. After they thwarted your attack, they would stop the trans and swoop away like a buncha pansies....very annoying. I know you've encountered this Phoenix. They could always make it something like evm, where after you descended, you had to wait a few seconds to ascend again. This might stop spam, but i still dont like the idea.

2) This idea would actually make it easier to swoop for some, but i think if this were to be implemented, it should be a cvar. I like the swooping the way it is (double-tap to swoop forward/backward/etc...).

3) I still enjoy the thought of grabbing someone and plummeting towards the Earth in an attempt to end your enemy's life. Although this is probably spammable (unless balanced somehow), it would make for some interesting fights.

 

[sayan master]

well i think that being imvonable while transforming is bad because u r not suposed to be like this...allso melee cant be done on u whyle transforming so it is ority ok the way it is
and ur secound IDA ROX it could have been nice since the sensitivity is geting messed up somthimes =] chainswoop with 1 key can be very handy

 

[Zeonix]

Are you following me sayan master lol? Everywhere i post, you post right afterwards lol. Anyway, how exactly is the sensitivity being messed up? I dont understand this part, but chain swooping would be more fluid if you only had to press the key once....meh. I still like the way it is.

 

[sayan master]

lol i think we are the only 2 ppl here and i m prity bored so i try to reply all the stuff here =]
and whyle i have abit of lag or somekind of interfearens i start doble tapping like hell and then i m getting all mesed up with the swoop (i must say a ROFL) but yah this method of 1 press chainswoop will be cool

 

[Zeonix]

lol, you're right. At the moment, we are the only 2 here (besides the mods). Anyway, like i said before, if the 1-tap swoop is implemented, it should be a cvar (not controlled by the admin; i think the term is client side but im unsure). I can understand why some people would want the 1-tap swoop. It is simpler than double tapping. I guess it depends on the players comfort level. Oh, and does anyone know how to swoop downwards (without pressing forward twice and aiming downwards....)?

 

[sayan master]

yah to swap down u press dobel "Ctrl" that is crouch by default...

 

[Zeonix]

Thanks man. Now i can complete my melee strategy! Muahahaha!!! Ahem...anyway.....:scared:

 

[Fire Phoenix]

THe only reason i say that you should be invulnerable during trans is cuz its unfair when people say to themselves "OMG HES TRANSING" and then you hear that dreadful sound........ "KamehameHAAA" and your dead. How DOES it feel. you get pissed. you have the ability to trans and some lame ass mofo dingle berry has to be an ******* about it and shoot beams at you. and its not ONE beam its as many as he can get until your done transing. if your lucky and live. then they run cuz they know your gonna go after them. and prolly die cuz your health is low.

what im trying to say is this: invulnerable while transing. but of course there HAS to be a downside. i named 2 downsides. if you can think of another one go ahead. its an idea. ideas get molded and turned into something if it sounds good.

and i really like my idea of pressing the button once to chain swoop. but i bet pcjoe would say no to it.

 

[Zeonix]

Ya know, if you're transing and you hear the charging of a kamehameha or a beam similar to that, you could immediately stop the trans and attack the person....