Super Saiyan

[Deathshot]

Ok, so I was doing some investigating on DBZ, when I looked into a Topic on "Original Super Saiyan"

The original Super Saiyan was a Saiyan who lived approximately three-thousand years ago on the original Saiyan homeworld. According to Vegeta, the Super Saiyan could only control his power in the form of a Golden Great Ape, and his power was so drastically overwhelming that it obliterated him and the original Saiyan homeworld he was on at the time, causing the Saiyans to search for a new homeworld which would later be known as Planet Vegeta. The Saiyan lived so long ago that his very existence had become a myth, until Goku proved that the legend was plausible by transforming into a Super Saiyan himself.He could have been the SS4 before Goku and Vegeta since Elder Kai knew about this form and also he was already a Golden Great Ape.

Source:http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Original_Super_Saiyan

So does this possibly mean that the Original Super Saiyan was strong enough to go SSJ4? Yes I know DBGT Bull****. Sorry.

But I was just thinking about this.

 

[MC]

It should be noted that in the manga, Vegeta makes no mention of an "original SSJ". All he states is that every one thousand years, a SSJ appears.

 

[hleV]

IMO Vegeta was talking about the legendary super saiyan which shows in some time period (1000 or 3000 years, don't remember). The story was kinda old though, so he didn't know all the truth about it. But still I believe, that super saiyan transformation has nothing to do with the legend.

About super saiyan... Well, I guess it's some kind of power that saiyans possess. Nobody knew that saiyan race has this kind of power because none of the saiyans had the powerlevel required to transform. Goku was able to obtain this much power because he was pure-hearted and was able to train in otherworld.

 

[Skyrider]

IMO Vegeta was talking about the legendary super saiyan which shows in some time period (1000 or 3000 years, don't remember). The story was kinda old though, so he didn't know all the truth about it. But still I believe, that super saiyan transformation has nothing to do with the legend.

About super saiyan... Well, I guess it's some kind of power that saiyans possess. Nobody knew that saiyan race has this kind of power because none of the saiyans had the powerlevel required to transform. Goku was able to obtain this much power because he was pure-hearted and was able to train in otherworld.

Not to forget the rage. A super saiyain is not full pure hearted. Why do you think Goku has issues making/controlling the spirit bomb when in the super saiyan state?

 

[hleV]

That's correct. Person, which is transformed into SSJ is no longer pure-hearted.

I don't believe that only some kind of pure-hearted saiyans can become SSJ though. I meant that he was able to obtain much power because he had trained in the otherworld and he couldn't have trained there if he wouldn't have been pure-hearted.

 

[Punishing]

The whole Super Saiyan legend was filler aswell as the tuffle and technology things. In the original manga Saiyans were given their technology by Frieza. The Tuffles and the migration to a new planet were only filler and GT.

 

[Deathshot]

Well. A Hardcore DBZ Fan, learned something new. =)

I always wondered about this.

 

[Painkiller]

well i think that the original super saiyan is actualy the super saiyan 4
becouse think a bit
it's always said that the true form of the saiyan is the oozaru form
so then think a bit
since goku directly transformed from a ozaru to a ssj4 then that means that
the first super saiyan was the super saiyan 4
i have always though that it's super saiyan 4 the very first super saiyan
other people think that the first super saiyan is broly himself
but i don't really think it's broly
but still he is the "LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN" meaning by this name it could be him
but i still think that the first super saiyan is someone who we don't know
and he turned into a super saiyan 4

 

[Deathshot]

Well, from the Story, He blew up and died when he was in Golden Oozaru Form.

 

[Eacos]

well i think that the original super saiyan is actualy the super saiyan 4

Thats incoherent. Super Saiyan 4 is the most powerful (and non-canon) form.
It doesnt make sense for characters to decend from SSJ4 to normal to SSJ1.

And DBGT is not DBZ.

DBGT is ****, DBZ is cool

 

[Painkiller]

well yes
but still that's not sure... who can say that :\
but you're correct that he blew up in that form
but that's not really a super saiyan
unless if you call it super goldened oozaru saiyan xD!

 

[Deathshot]

Oozaru is just a Normal Saiyan Growing Taller and Gaining power and Lossing speed.

Golden Oozaru is a Super Saiyan who transforms while in Oozaru form.

 

[MF29]

That's correct. Person, which is transformed into SSJ is no longer pure-hearted.

Yes, and this is proven when SSJ Goku threatened to blast the Supreme Kai's head off in the Majin-Vegeta sub saga.

 

[Skyrider]

Yes, and this is proven when SSJ Goku threatened to blast the Supreme Kai's head off in the Majin-Vegeta sub saga.

I highly doubt it was his intentions to do so. Goku had to because he had to stop vegeta in doing more damage.

 

[Punishing]

well i think that the original super saiyan is actualy the super saiyan 4
becouse think a bit
it's always said that the true form of the saiyan is the oozaru form
so then think a bit
since goku directly transformed from a ozaru to a ssj4 then that means that
the first super saiyan was the super saiyan 4
i have always though that it's super saiyan 4 the very first super saiyan
other people think that the first super saiyan is broly himself
but i don't really think it's broly
but still he is the "LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN" meaning by this name it could be him
but i still think that the first super saiyan is someone who we don't know
and he turned into a super saiyan 4

Both Brolly and SS4 are not canon. So your theory is not even relevant.

 

[Painkiller]

blaheded at you

 

[The Deco]

You guys know, the funniest part is that Akira Toryima or who ever is responsible for the storyline, probably doesn't know for himself the answers!

 

[Skiwan]

It should be noted that in the manga, Vegeta makes no mention of an "original SSJ". All he states is that every one thousand years, a SSJ appears.

quoted for the truth.

 

[)v(ajin Vegetto]

Id love to see a planet full of supersaiyans ranged from ssj1 to ssj4
Thatll look baddass

 

[Painkiller]

maybe
but don't you think that that planet will be destroyed when they fight?