Strong Men...Also Cry

[fatmanterror]

no offense but alot of u guys seem to be women haters. its true some girls are mean to guys, the same way guys are mean to guys, guys are mean to girls, and girls are mean to girls. its life man, if every girl u know is mean then u know some pretty messed up people, i know some mean girls, i know some really awsome girls, like i know some mean guys and some awsome guys. as ive said before, some of ya seem like u take relationships way too seriously.

 

[nZ]

Hey , u gotta learn how to play girls man , this way u can never feel down about anyy girl coz u got confidence , as a player myself , after a girl knocked u down man , get to know sum others gals, it makes u feel much better trust me , and after a while ull be doing one niters, n trust me when u find the girl thts for u , its not like *oh let me get to know her then ill know shes for me* its like *bang i saw her and damn is she the one for me* and ur gonna love it coz soul mates rule man beleive in it.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Like I said--I can fill this thread with about 6000000 examples, if it pleases you. And I'm sure everyone else here can, too.

It pleases me. You can plant down some more examples and I'll take a look at them and see if I can refute some of your points. I could also ask other people in this thread to list observations of men they've seen lie maliciously for self earning and all that other crap but since you seem focused on examples of women only we'll stick to that.

 

[-JLN-]

I don't really have anything against you Pride, infact you're generally pretty cool, but this woman hate thing really pisses me off. I personally believe that you should judge everyone on their own merit and not assume that every woman you bump into obviously wants to play mind games with you and ultimately hurt your feelings because it'll entertain her. If you meet a girl, and then you get your assumptions that she's a liar and a cheating *****, I'd be happy for you to PM me personally and produce a 5000 word essay on why she's crap, but just blocking yourself off from all women completely just because they might be a whore is just your loss in my opinion.

 

[Pain]

Of course, it's much worse for a woman to try and save your feelings by telling a lie...

i dont know if thats sarcasm or not, and i cant speak for anyone else... but i would actually prefer a person to be upfront with me about crap then try to hide it "for my sake". because everything comes into the light eventually... i dont care what kind of situation it is, everything will come out sometime or later. and if you had no idea what was going on.. its going to hurt a lot more than if you knew straight out.

there is no arguing that point, it is a FACT.
i suppose because, if you are upfront about stuff, it gives that person a sense of closure to some extent...
but when you hide things and lie about others.. it gives you a sense of.. "wtf.. i thought things were good.... where did this crap come from?"
its like pride said :

We get into the situation and take it for face value--I like you, you like me, we get along, everything's great.

now, in my experiance, guys are like that with pretty much everything. you get into a fight with a friend of yours and it is resolved quickly and simply. it doesnt come back to haunt you every time the subject comes up. he doesnt get pissy with you when it comes up. you two can laugh about it later.

another very noticable difference would be problem solving.
a man will not talk about a problem unless he is looking for a solution.
"hey man ive got 'problem a' what should i do man?"
problem + solution = he's happy
a woman... as pride has already said... does not want to solve the problem...
a woman simply wants to talk about it, not solve. i cannot tell you how many times i have seen this. girls got a problem and she just talks and talks about it, never looking for a solution. more of a "look at me, ive got a problem, you should be paying attention to me!"
this is also why most women will ***** and ***** at you over something you may have thought was already resolved.
"oh my god i cant believe how bad i have it because of 'problem b'"
problem + talking/drama = she's happy

now, since sonic wanted examples i guess i will post a few of my own experiences.

my first girlfriend, and me thinking everythings dandy. she comes to me one day telling me shes been... unfaithfull. so me being under the infuluence of Vaginal Neurotoxin , i figure "ok she was straight with me about it i can give her another chance." the story she gave me was complete bull**** but again the Vaginal Neurotoxin effect i let it slide. she said she gave a guy a handjob because he made her. i asked her if it was rape and she said no, i asked her if he had a weapon or anything or threatened her, she said no. then she says she just touched it once and it came out. now... me being a guy i know thts bull****... it doesnt happen that way. turns out that it was a guy she had liked before she met me and decided to have a little fling with him in her basement. even i can put 2 and 2 together on that one and what really happend.
now, i probably wouldnt have found out about it for a good long while unless she had told me. i am greatfull that she did, but the fact that she tried to make it "less hurtfull" just ruined the whole thing because that turns it into "well what else arent you telling me?".
and just to put and end to this story, she cheated on me twice after this and after that id had enough. after each time it was "never again, i love you!" yea i was dumb.

a common excuse for a woman would be "its none of your buisness" if you ask them something a tad personal.
and thats fine... but you know what... they wouldnt have a problem telling you unless they had something to hide.
and no im not talking about stupid questions like "ahyuk is it your time of the month?"
ive actually had this conversation with a girl
how was your weekend
-was ok
do anything special?
-WHY? ARE YOU TRYING TO KEEP TABS ON YOUR COMPETITION?

there are any number of things wrong with that right there.
a simple follow up question any normal person would have asked anyone...

so i duno... id have to go with pride on this. most of the girls out there are not as rational or logical as we would like them to be. "femalogic"

i feel now would be a nice time to put in that old quote everybodys been thinking of.
Women.
Can't live with them.
Can't live without them.


and pride, i would be interested to see your journal if its allright with you.

 

[Esf_Newbie]

My point is you can't say all girls are more evil than all guys. Maybe once a month or so, but overall it's still dumb to use three examples and some overgeneralizations to categorize an entire gender.

ROLF!!! Am I the only one who got this???

On topic,

Sonic those guys seemed like they had anti socal personality disorder. You know it seems like all girls have it. But that wouldn't be true. One thing I could say about most of the girls I've met is that logic and rationality doesn't work with'em.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

Sonic those guys seemed like they had anti socal personality disorder. You know it seems like all girls have it. But that wouldn't be true. One thing I could say about most of the girls I've met is that logic and rationality doesn't work with'em.

Antisocial personality disorder would make sense if they were serial killers, but they weren't, they were just typical guys. Guys do that kind of thing. Sure, not *all* guys act like that, but not *all* women act as described by others above. I was just making a point by showing that guys can be immoral bastards too.

 

[Skiwan]

"Dave, you're a really nice guy. And maybe, in 10 years, when I'm thinking about marriage, I would be with you. But right now, I'm 16, and Chad is hot. He cheats on me, treats me like ****, but that doesn't really matter, because at the moment, my main priority is ****ing Chad's brains out."

You, Nelo, are Dave. And that sucks ass. But that's just how it is right now. The fact is that at senior year everybody splits up and who wants to have some long-distance college relationship when so much crap is already going on there?

Not to say it's impossible. On occasion, Dave finds perfect-girl, and then Dave marries perfect girl, but that's a really low occurence.

thats me!!!!!

I too know how this crap feels like, im pretty messed up at the moment, and i have to agree with Pride has said, he makes it oh so clear to me :S

 

[Esf_Newbie]

Antisocial personality disorder would make sense if they were serial killers, but they weren't, they were just typical guys. Guys do that kind of thing. Sure, not *all* guys act like that, but not *all* women act as described by others above. I was just making a point by showing that guys can be immoral bastards too.

Antisocial personality disorder does equal serial killers. Just prone to violence more then others. But lets not talk about this. Someone might close this thread and I'm enjoying this to much to have it closed.

ASPD is a little more serious than you are hinting at. http://health.yahoo.com/centers/personality/000921.html People with ASPD that are violent (as some I listed were) are called psychopaths (become serial killers etc). You're thinking of conduct disorder. These guys I'm talking about aren't super immoral, they're just typical. ~Boyster

 

[VuLLs]

heh this thread is crazy... why is it allowed to be continued... i usually see threads closed after they have a page of 3-4...

love girls no matter what and dont go *ahem u know* because that wont solve anything, nor will u be able to have children of your own. enless u adopt... but it wont be your bloodline.

same can go with women... for the sake of our species be straight.

and i am not bigoting i could care less.

just telling u this in here because i've had about 10 kids telling me they are *** or lesbian and they are having the same problems your having. it doesnt matter who it is; their eventually gonna break your heart if your relationship is not on a firm foundation.

thats all i gotta say and i think this thread is just eating up the web sites data/speed cuz once a thread gets to big the site will get laggyer and they will eventually delete them.
because your questions and conversations have been answered.

 

[imported_KelesK]

Pride; I feel for you dude... You got some harsh stories, but I entirely agree with your method of thinking; it's harsh but true.

Pain; I like your way of thinking!

You two are an inspiration to us all!

And Pride if you don't mind I'd like to hear a bit from your journal too. You got some common sense about ya. :]

 

[nZ]

No 1 has actually givin any gd examples of girls who are actually loyal , where I live , its usually the men who cheat and lie.

OK my friend , who is a girl , she has been with her boyfirend for 2 years , n she is buff( extremely attractive). She has done everything with her boyfriend and shes even bored of doing it so often. Her boyfriend aint anything special , but he really f*cks her about , he's cruel and mouthy and still expects everything from her.
Now i ask my friend how she puts up with it and why does she put up with it. She says she loves him and she can't imagine being without him , even this all this pain shes going through , she has never cheated on her boyfriend or kept any secrets from him .

The point im trying to prove is not everything girl you see is decieving or evil, there are many girls that still keep their loyalty at hand , and every1 who does write to complain , have obviously not gotten over there ex or their last ex ex , you have to learn to move on , and its not time that heals , its the time of effort in that time you put in to heal yourself from the pain , and it's no good blaming something else (i.e. girls in this case) you hav to blame yourself and confront it by doing what you need to e.g. meet other girls , hang out with m8's erase her from your memory or even become friends with her tht does help to solve the pain .
every girl ive ever dated im still friends with them (apart from the one niters) which keeps me far away from pain and agony. you should take my advice , girls are only human , and im sure they have alotttttt of evil things to say about men aswell , trust me it is always balanced.

bottom line , dont let time heal you from the pain , put effort in the time that is given to you , live your life to the max.

 

[Hitokiri]

love girls no matter what and dont go *ahem u know* because that wont solve anything, nor will u be able to have children of your own. enless u adopt... but it wont be your bloodline.

Man... you're from Tampa, right? Do they speak English in Tampa? What the hell did you just say?

same can go with women... for the sake of our species be straight.

and i am not bigoting i could care less.

just telling u this in here because i've had about 10 kids telling me they are *** or lesbian and they are having the same problems your having. it doesnt matter who it is; their eventually gonna break your heart if your relationship is not on a firm foundation.

What do *** people have to do with this at all. . ? Ten kids, huh? You must be a real liberal, open-minded guy to have so many *** people who trust you with relationship prob-. . . oh wait . . . :scared:

 

[VuLLs]

well your from japan right... hitokiri...

so i dont expect you to understand english nor the function of what i said from before.

i'll dumb it down for you if i must... sigh...

- i have friends that are not straight and they have the same problem as this guy has trusting people.

- it doesnt matter who it is; if your relationship is not built on a firm foundation of trust and respect it wont last.

and dont roll your eyes at me son,
not my prob if people have trouble trusting you.
must not be a good judge of character.

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

well your from japan right... hitokiri...

so i dont expect you to understand english nor the function of what i said from before.

i'll dumb it down for you if i must... sigh...

He types more cleanly and with better spelling and punctuation than you do. The fact is you have difficulty presenting your ideas clearly and concisely and they come out convoluted by your religious stances. What you said made *no* sense. "love girls no matter what and dont go *ahem u know* because that wont solve anything" -Translate this.

- i have friends that are not straight and they have the same problem as this guy has trusting people.

- it doesnt matter who it is; if your relationship is not built on a firm foundation of trust and respect it wont last.

You didn't need to bring up homosexuals at all, let alone go off on that rant I editted out earlier about how you and the president don't believe in homosexuality. If your point was to say "*** people have the same problems as straight people" you could have just said that.

and dont roll your eyes at me son,
not my prob if people have trouble trusting you.
must not be a good judge of character.

Both of you can cut it out.

 

[VuLLs]

well obviously i didnt need to translate if you got it boyster.
it just takes common sense to see what im trying to say in my "rants". i dont like to blantly put my subjects out there for the reader to see i like them to ponder and figure it out for them selves. it makes the reading experience much more better

rofl...

and dont forget the lesbians, im not saying g-a-y 's only.
and saying i have or do not have a religion is not right...
my religion is lutherian and i agree with god that we are all brothers and sisters and should get along not fight so

 

[MANGAMINX]

Im agreein, yes girls r natural born liers :cry: , how eva i'm learnin alot from my mistakes with a head ach and sore feet from kickin the ****outta things im not gonna defend females cos i am one cos i lie, i lyed alot and im in **** because of it but i've started thinkin about new things and it hurts, i cant understand myself nomore, thas teh truth im tellin nothin but it now, i hav nothin to lie about cos i hav nothin, im scared about feelins im havin and tired also
i look in the mirror and i feel sick now
im sorry about how we r we dont deserve 4 givness so u shud 4 get about a girl if she lies cos the chances r she might do it again but in time she shud realise how much pain shes put u through i no i hav

u seen strong ,stay tha way DONT let the thing called love f*** ur live up

 

[Sonic the Vampire]

and dont forget the lesbians, im not saying g-a-y 's only.
and saying i have or do not have a religion is not right...
my religion is lutherian and i agree with god that we are all brothers and sisters and should get along not fight so

I said get *off* of homosexuality. I also said "translate this" because I do *not* understand what you said. What does : "love girls no matter what and dont go *ahem u know* because that wont solve anything" mean? Please rephrase it for me.

I also was not saying you have one religion or another, I was saying you were using your religion in your argument, and you need to avoid doing so. We have rules against political discussions and religious discussions usually end up crashing in the same respects so go easy on it.


@Mangamix: I'm sorry but being female does not entitle you to speak on behalf of all females any more than being heartbroken entitles Pride to. Every individual is unique, deal with your own problems in your own way. If lying is getting you in trouble, try, you know, not doing that.

 

[Hitokiri]

Help a confused Japanese man out.

not my prob if people have trouble trusting you.
must not be a good judge of character.

No, see, I was expressing my doubts that somebody blatantly anti-homosexual such as yourself would be consoling nearly a dozen homosexual friends; or did you forget the part where you randomly and unnecessarily veered off-topic in order to state your adamant beliefs against them and got half your post removed?

love girls no matter what and dont go *ahem u know* because that wont solve anything, nor will u be able to have children of your own. enless u adopt... but it wont be your bloodline.

Speaking as the Japanese man that I am, I've seen cleaner bukkake videos than the sentence you wrote right there. And apparently you misunderstood Sonic Boyster when he said:

What you said made *no* sense. . .Translate this.

Apparently where you're from this means "I get what you're saying." Maybe I bought the crappy English dictionary or something, I dunno. I'm still learning here, so forgive me if I miss the intricate idiosynchrosies of English. It's a very difficult language, you know?

You should try speaking it some time.

 

[VuLLs]

rofl...

*love girls no matter what and dont go "G-A-Y" because that wont solve anything.*

thats what i meant k happy? common sense and you already got it; reflects what both you and i said. doesnt matter if your straight or g-a-y/lesbian it all ends the same way - in fighting.

How were we supposed to decode "ahem you know" into homosexual?

plus, im not a political or religious person, i dont discuss those. i just state my opinion and facts, their having nothing to do with religion or politics. (that i know of)

I'm tired of arguing with you. I don't know what I have to point out, but we'll start with this:

read the bible...

That was your first post in this thread.

my old statement on president bush and god were only mere facts. nothing more.

Keep your opinions about what is and is not fact with regards to a higher power to yourself.

heck i dont even know why this thread is still open the questions where answered discussed and now people are getting off topic about women and men and religion and stuff. (my forums much more maintained and cleaned).

i dont care for this any more, i need not post here trying to defend or educate people on relationships. if you do not want to listen and flame me instead then oh well (what can i do).

...oh i know, i just wont reply any more im off to go game/help others

You can feel free to post further in this thread but leave your comments devoid of religious points of view, please. ~Boyster